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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: rechus

this is really unbearable.......there is no justification for what krishna doing now.....krishna is the one supported radha to marry ayan....she did that without knowing who is ayan..now he is following her to make her understand she still loves him....what a crap...a person who truely love a girl never create a problem in her marital life...then how can a god trouble the person who he saying he loves eternally...after radha born in earth krishna was the one made her life miserable.....i think radha didn't do anything wrong but she is the one get punishment everytime......god can do anything if human do the same its wrong....i think there is no hopes for this show anymore....really fed up....

Well put. The god is the actual miscreator here ha ha ha

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Viswasruti

Well said stormborn! The red, very true. They will get Trps because of our threads and discussions and consequently will get Ads for which they try hard, that is their source of money. So we have every right to tell what we feel.

Some people love this story this way and many may not like, different perspectives with different emotions depends on how much you know about the original story.

I usually don't mind deviating from stories. On the contrary I often enjoy it. I love the BBC Sherlock more than the original. One of my other favourites Supernatural had the Christian God as their villain and I quiet enjoyed it. I even loved this version of RK. I have watched the original twice --- once in Ramanand Sagar's and other time in Bengali. So changing the taste with this one was pretty pleasant at first.

Deviating from real story or making it compatible with the contemporary mentality isn't a problem if you can maintain the consistency. Instead it became na ghar ka na ghat ka. Sometimes Krishna is the supreme God, a telepath, a soothsayer and other times he becomes just a 'mayabi' teen. One time, a woman gets elected as the mukhiya, and then just sometimes later that same woman becomes an object in a marketplace. Krishna plays mind games with Radha all the time in the name of teaching the world the concept of love. Dude my mind has been played before. Manipulations and mind games in the name of love can destroy an adult's mind let alone a teen's. In the name of vikaars, they only put forth the stereotypical stuffs girls supposedly do in a relationship. But the wrongs that boys do were always glamorized and never been called out. While teaching love, Krishna became the type of guy we should avoid at all cost---- charming and malicious in one package. I am confused what they were teaching us ? What to do or what to avoid ?

And one thing has bothered me since the very beginning. How come Krishna doesn't know that he will leave Barsana and never have a future with Radha ? He knows that he was born to take part as a Sarthi in the dharmyudh right ? He even mentioned this when becoming the Sarthi of vrishban and nand. He knows he has to go kill Kans and then never come back.

So that's my point. Deviate from real story as much as you want. Heck give them a iPhone and see if I care ! But keep the freaking consistency. Don't contradict yourself at every other moment. Get your story straight and then shoot it. That's my one and only demand from the makers and it's way more reasonable than Ugrapath's. Still his got fulfilled and mine didn't. *Sigh*

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: stormborn

Constructive criticism and rational discussion over a creative piece (be it a book, play, show or anything alike) is good for the mental health as well as brain development. There's no harm in pointing out your disappointments about a story that you usually appreciate. This forum is meant for that. There are several other forums available in the internet for the same purpose. You should try it sometimes. The creatives will appreciate that we found the show worthy enough to discuss about it and invest our time and effort into that. Because to them, it's never 'just a show', it's their baby. Every writer is a parent to his/her creation and should be open to constructive criticism if they want their parenting to go right.

Also the CVs who created the sarcastic Krishna and Balram (it's one of my favourite things about their character arc) won't be hurt by my tone of sarcasm. You know how sarcastic Krishna is right ? If you don't, ask his 'bade bhaiya' Ayan.

Thank you for pointing this out, I have the impression that we are committing a crime if we do not applaud what is currently happening in RK.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: rechus

this is really unbearable.......there is no justification for what krishna doing now.....krishna is the one supported radha to marry ayan....she did that without knowing who is ayan..now he is following her to make her understand she still loves him....what a crap...a person who truely love a girl never create a problem in her marital life...then how can a god trouble the person who he saying he loves eternally...after radha born in earth krishna was the one made her life miserable.....i think radha didn't do anything wrong but she is the one get punishment everytime......god can do anything if human do the same its wrong....i think there is no hopes for this show anymore....really fed up....

I think the same as you do.

She is the masterpiece of everything.

Krishna said you have a badha, Radha has developed the badha.

Krishna says to Radha goes left, she goes left.

Radha has no personality. She's just a pawn that you move when you need it.

And you're absolutely right, Krishna is the one who made Radha's life miserable.

Today hearing him tell Radha that he had no trouble admitting that she still loves him, I thought I was going to hit my head against the wall!

Krishna has a funny way of showing her love and especially to teach it!

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: stormborn

I usually don't mind deviating from stories. On the contrary I often enjoy it. I love the BBC Sherlock more than the original. One of my other favourites Supernatural had the Christian God as their villain and I quiet enjoyed it. I even loved this version of RK. I have watched the original twice --- once in Ramanand Sagar's and other time in Bengali. So changing the taste with this one was pretty pleasant at first.

Deviating from real story or making it compatible with the contemporary mentality isn't a problem if you can maintain the consistency. Instead it became na ghar ka na ghat ka. Sometimes Krishna is the supreme God, a telepath, a soothsayer and other times he becomes just a 'mayabi' teen. One time, a woman gets elected as the mukhiya, and then just sometimes later that same woman becomes an object in a marketplace. Krishna plays mind games with Radha all the time in the name of teaching the world the concept of love. Dude my mind has been played before. Manipulations and mind games in the name of love can destroy an adult's mind let alone a teen's. In the name of vikaars, they only put forth the stereotypical stuffs girls supposedly do in a relationship. But the wrongs that boys do were always glamorized and never been called out. While teaching love, Krishna became the type of guy we should avoid at all cost---- charming and malicious in one package. I am confused what they were teaching us ? What to do or what to avoid ?

And one thing has bothered me since the very beginning. How come Krishna doesn't know that he will leave Barsana and never have a future with Radha ? He knows that he was born to take part as a Sarthi in the dharmyudh right ? He even mentioned this when becoming the Sarthi of vrishban and nand. He knows he has to go kill Kans and then never come back.

So that's my point. Deviate from real story as much as you want. Heck give them a iPhone and see if I care ! But keep the freaking consistency. Don't contradict yourself at every other moment. Get your story straight and then shoot it. That's my one and only demand from the makers and it's way more reasonable than Ugrapath's. Still his got fulfilled and mine didn't. *Sigh*

Manipulation is the thing I can't stand in Krishna.

He manipulated everyone, at first it made sense because he was following a goal, then it was just unfounded manipulation.

The CV's have long since lost their line, as you say Krishna himself doesn't know what he is. The worst part is that the dialogues are becoming more and more incoherent!

What is he trying to do by making Radha admit that she still loves him? It's not going to be a good thing for anyone, because Krishna will have to leave Barsana, so he wants Radha to admit that she loves him and then he'll abandon him again? What's the point of all this? Making her cursed and then married to the devil isn't enough for her?!

Nothing makes sense, and nothing justifies what is happening now!

Nothing is contemporary! The sacrifice is overrated because at the end one person in this couple will end up in pain! Sacrifice in the name of parental love does not make anyone happy! Hate ends up being part of the relationship whether you like it or not!

And then here, they want to make it clear that nothing is above love, even a marriage, I say bravo to them! So it will be enough for a married person who does not love his or her husband or wife, but loves the neighbour, he or she will just have to go and join his or her love in complete freedom, because nothing prevents love from being lived!

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: ReadLo

Manipulation is the thing I can't stand in Krishna.

He manipulated everyone, at first it made sense because he was following a goal, then it was just unfounded manipulation.

The CV's have long since lost their line, as you say Krishna himself doesn't know what he is. The worst part is that the dialogues are becoming more and more incoherent!

What is he trying to do by making Radha admit that she still loves him? It's not going to be a good thing for anyone, because Krishna will have to leave Barsana, so he wants Radha to admit that she loves him and then he'll abandon him again? What's the point of all this? Making her cursed and then married to the devil isn't enough for her?!

Nothing makes sense, and nothing justifies what is happening now!

Nothing is contemporary! The sacrifice is overrated because at the end one person in this couple will end up in pain! Sacrifice in the name of parental love does not make anyone happy! Hate ends up being part of the relationship whether you like it or not!

And then here, they want to make it clear that nothing is above love, even a marriage, I say bravo to them! So it will be enough for a married person who does not love his or her husband or wife, but loves the neighbour, he or she will just have to go and join his or her love in complete freedom, because nothing prevents love from being lived!

@bold They made Ayan a psychopathic killer to justify that. I think that was the main reason behind his negative characterization.

It could still be forgiven or atleast 20% forgotten if they didn't keep chanting "jag Ko Prem sikhana hai" after every freaking dialogue. That means they want us to relate ourselves to whatever they have been doing and learn from that ! Seriously ?!?! If they can't mend the story, atleast they should stop saying that sentence. Seeing how K forgot all about the attempts to murder by Ayan and co., he shouldn't have any problems forgetting that line. Why doesn't he call his amnesia back by a chutki and forget that damn sentence !!?!

First Radha is handed to the devil as you said and now she can't decide to move on because Krishna has connections with the higher authorities ( Mahadev, durvasha etc. ). It atlast became contemporary in the true sense ( workplace harrassment much ? ). The last line was sarcasm btw.

He knows he will leave and never come back but wants to have some fun before that. Then Radha can keep waiting for Godot for the rest of her life while slaving in the devil's den.

Bahut sikhli Prem yaar. Aur Nehi ! Thanks but no thanks !!!! Krishna is simply acting like a f-boi lately ---- the kind I have learnt to stay away from.

Edited by stormborn - 6 years ago
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#27

Originally posted by ReadLo

Manipulation is the thing I can't stand in Krishna.

He manipulated everyone, at first it made sense because he was following a goal, then it was just unfounded manipulation.

There is a big difference between divine Leela and exploitation with manipulation! Krishna is doing the second one for his selfish purpose, for me, it looks like that! Well said , agree with you Cynthia.🤗

The CV's have long since lost their line, as you say Krishna himself doesn't know what he is. The worst part is that the dialogues are becoming more and more incoherent!

Since long Krishna is contradicting his own statements regarding love and ethics, just like Vrish!!

What is he trying to do by making Radha admit that she still loves him? It's not going to be a good thing for anyone, because Krishna will have to leave Barsana, so he wants Radha to admit that she loves him and then he'll abandon her again? What's the point of all this? Making her cursed and then married to the devil isn't enough for her?!

🤗Love you Cynthia for these words!

Nothing makes sense, and nothing justifies what is happening now!

This should be the tag line on the banner of this serial!!!--- formed by the disappointed viewers' forum!!

Nothing is contemporary! The sacrifice is overrated because at the end one person in this couple will end up in pain! Sacrifice in the name of parental love does not make anyone happy! Hate ends up being part of the relationship whether you like it or not!

And then here, they want to make it clear that nothing is above love, even a marriage, I say bravo to them! So it will be enough for a married person who does not love his or her husband or wife, but loves the neighbour, he or she will just have to go and join his or her love in complete freedom, because nothing prevents love from being lived!

Originally posted by: stormborn

@bold They made Ayan a psychopathic killer to justify that. I think that was the main reason behind his negative characterization. ---

They thought it that way, you are right SB[ stormborn] that justifies the continuation of the relationship between Radha and Krishna even after her marriage!! What a poor thought process!!! How does a cruel person tolerate his wife's meetings with her ex-boyfriend?? He wasn't even redeemed, not a docile person, and to instigate him his mother is there ever ready!! Why is God so confused? That too in the case of hisPranadhika Radhika???

It could still be forgiven or at least 20% forgotten if they didn't keep chanting "jag Ko Prem sikhana hai" after every freaking dialogue. That means they want us to relate ourselves to whatever they have been doing and learn from that ! Seriously ?!?! If they can't mend the story, atleast they should stop saying that sentence. Seeing how K forgot all about the attempts to murder by Ayan and co., he shouldn't have any problems forgetting that line. Why doesn't he call his amnesia back by a chutki and forget that damn sentence !!?!

Krishna was there on earth to taught love to mankind! But I am sure not like this, by making an innocent girl a scapegoat in this entire process, very bad. We have to search for pure love with a magnifying glass now!

First Radha is handed to the devil as you said and now she can't decide to move on because Krishna has connections with the higher authorities ( Mahadev, durvasha etc. ). It atlast became contemporary in the true sense ( workplace harassment much ? ). The last line was sarcasm btw.

🤣Ha ha ha !! Thanks for this comic relief!!

He knows he will leave and never come back but wants to have some fun before that. Then Radha can keep waiting for Godot for the rest of her life while slaving in the devil's den.

😲That is the real badha for her now, slaving in the devil's den!

Bahut sikhli Prem yaar. Aur Nehi ! Thanks but no thanks !!!! Krishna is simply acting like a f-boi lately ---- the kind I have learnt to stay away from.

Appreciate such funfilled, meaningful discussions Cynthia and Stormborn, thankful to both of you.❤️
Edited by Viswasruti - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Good points guys. I have nothing to add as am completely disgusted with their plots even though I am not watching at all since the golok raas. I am so disgusted with kanha that I dont even want to think what he is upto. I want to ask the writer that did he really understand this awatar of Narayan!!!!

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Posted: 6 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: Viswasruti

by making an innocent girl a scapegoat in this entire process, very bad

THIS !! you said it sister !! Radha is the scapegoat, getting sandwiched between the men in the show ! An excuse for them to boast over their God complex. She gets badhas, she does wrong, she is never self sufficient so that the men can be glamorized. Everyone else is spared and even rewarded after committing gruesome deeds and she gets to be the one to suffer at the end in spite of being innocent. You said the word. That is it. That's the show.

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Originally posted by: stormborn

THIS !! you said it sister !! Radha is the scapegoat, getting sandwiched between the men in the show ! An excuse for them to boast over their God complex. She gets badhas, she does wrong, she is never self sufficient so that the men can be glamorized. Everyone else is spared and even rewarded after committing gruesome deeds and she gets to be the one to suffer at the end in spite of being innocent. You said the word. That is it. That's the show.

The characterization of Radha in this show is like an insult to womanhood, it is nothing but disparaging the Divine Love! They are preaching like --Being a woman is the ultimate insult!! Even though she is a goddess, a lover of a Divine Being!!

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