IF Suneheri was a MAN? Would we judge her this harshly?

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Posted: 10 years ago
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I just want to ask a question of all of my fellow QH forum members? If Seher was a man, who was conning someone for money, would we judge her this harshly?

She is a women. I know women are supposed to have a higher sense of right and wrong, and we expect more from women etc etc? But the truth is, that Seher or Suneheri is a trained con artist? Yes she said to Razia that even they have "Rules", and yes they do? But in this case, there is a SECOND dynamic here at play? Not just her need or her greed for money? That second dynamic is her feelings for Rehan! THAT is her driving force, not the money!


IF this was just about money...she would have said YES for the marriage, as soon as Razia promised her another 50 lakh fee hike? She is asking for 2 Cr now, coz since she decided to do the job, might as well get the best deal. But the REASON she agreed was not the money, it was the heartbreak!


See, a person in love, is NOT rational! Not just "Good" people and "Worthy and righteous" people fall in love! BAD people fall in love too. Bad girls fall in love, just like Bad boys do! When a bad boy is in love, he is "Hot" and we just love to love him. When a bad GIRL falls in love, she is a "Vamp" and we just love to hate her? We dont care she is in love, we dont care her heart is broken? How dare that vamp mess with our hero and heroine?


I LOVE SAHIL! They are QH for me. But I still can see two sides to every story! Maybe coz I come from a family with a lot of lawyers? Either way, what I mean is that Suneheri in her heart was still holding out hope of a reconciliation with Rehan. Especially now, when she sees him every day. Just like Aahil used to watch Sanam from afar and sighing, when he fell in love with her, Suneheri is looking at the man SHE loves and doing the same!


Trust me, I HATE her for what she is doing. But I also understand why she is doing it, and it is not as simple as wanting money, or greed for money. She is NOT Tanveer, who wanted the status of being Mrs Asad Ahemed Khan, and wanted money so married the Nawab. Suneheri wants money coz she thinks that is the ONLY thing that will secure her life! For ONCE she thought of a life where love and relationships mattered more than money and she had a rude awakening. Like she once thought to herself when she was fantasizing about Rehan.

"Rehan acha ladaka hain, aur tuj jaise ladaki ko acha ladaka mil nahin saktha"


Today when she saw Rehan with that Dhaba bill, she thought for a moment, that maybe he still thinks of her, and still has feelings for her? All full of hope, she questions him about it? But he refutes her theory and tells her that he only wants to "Forget and throw away" all memories associated with her! She is sad, and her eyes fill with tears. She says "Yes Rehan, forgetting such people is the right way. You should not think of them even if they are dying". She goes from there, before she hears Rehan admit that despite wishing to forget her, he cant!


The ONLY thing that can stop Suneheri from her self destruction is finding out that Rehan still loves her! Self destruction is a key factor in a broken heart. People who feel rejected in love sometimes even become suicidal? So in light of that, what Suneheri is doing is only to be expected.


Trust me, I dont like what she is doing, and I dont want Sanam and Aahil to suffer. But unlike RAZIA, I know that Sanam and Aahil are made for each other, and this Suneheri chapter cant break them up! Nothing can. They can have set backs, but their love is the REAL DEAL. The only person that Sunheri is going to hurt in the end is herself, and she will lose Rehan FOR GOOD, this time, if she goes ahead with this Nikah with Aahil.


Even while she said "Qubool Hai" to her marrying Aahil again, her eyes are only saying "Qubool Hai" to loving Rehan! Just like her Father Asad, she was someone who didn't believe in love, but now that she has fallen, she has fallen hard, just like he did. Lets spare a BIT of sympathy for a bad girl in love, just like we would for a bad boy!


Please share your thoughts with me!




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Posted: 10 years ago
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Absolutely agree with you,great post, more than anger, I feel sorry for her and Rehaan, I am super upset and angry with her but still I feel bad for her, She is a heart broken and as you said not acting rationally, I really hope she does not marry with Aahil, it will break everything, her relation with Rehaan, Sanam , it will be a pure disaster, I hope she gets her sense back and more important Sanam comes back, somehow this Nikhaan should not happen.. It will ruin all relationships.. 😕
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Mandy!


Excellent post this is!



Somehow I know this isn't directed to the likes of me!



In any case...you know where I stand in all of this. Hee!



Now please. How can anybody do this to Tanveer. It's so offensive okay. Liking another character to her. Tanveer is just one. And only one. One can dream to be like her...but no. No one has as much charm and sense of power like she does.



;)




Family of lawyers huh.


Mine's just commoners.



Hee.



Mwahhh!




Love the post!







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Posted: 10 years ago
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Why would someone judge a man and woman differently? I don't know about others but I know I wont. I never did. When QH1 happened it was ASAD who I used to bash for his preconceived notion and being a complete MCP. I felt more than Billi Asad was guilty for Zoyas torture by that cat since he was blinded in his faith for completely covered tehzeeb e afta women . He never believed anything against Billi and he did suffer a lot till his last breath. Most of us bashed him left and right all the time and never gave him any privilege for being a man or an eye candy.
Why should it be different for Sunheri? If we have to sympathize her we should have done the same with Billi as well. So far where's the difference? Both are planted by Razia into someone else's house to ruin their happiness.Where Billi came to spy on ASAD and find some stuffs for Razia , sunheri actually replaced another woman who happens to be her lookalike. Sunheris agenda is similar to Billis . She must know that her lookslike have been harmed somehow and kept away from her family while she is living her life and even conning her husband. Sorry but her being heartbroken by Rehan doesn't count. She decided to keep Rehan oblivious to her past and it backfired on her. Now Just because Rehan won't accept her , she can't decide to break another couple so much in love with each other for her greed. If we accept and understand her reasons then we should have done the same with Bilii as well. Billi was rejected by ASAD and became dangerous . Here Sunheri got rejected by Rehan and ruining people's lives. Where's the difference? None of us supported Billi ever or try to see her POV ever? If Sunheri had no one to care for her , we never saw anyone caring for Billi as well. She might have come from a harsh situation as well but none of us were sympathetic to her. EVER. She even had a stone eye and often got mocked by people around her for that . If I remenber correctly no one ever supported her . Sunheri is actually aiding to a kidnapping and conning as well. She is a criminal and there's no bad or good crime in the court of law. Kidnapping and keeping someone captive while playing her entire family is no way better than killing somebody.
So far there's no difference between Billi and
Sunheri . However IF she still grows conscience and helps finding Sanam then ofcourse she will be different from Billi. Billi was unable to get control over her greed and I really hope Sunheri would. Otherwise IMO no amount of redemption would be good for her.
I know she will be forgiven by her lost family and Ofcourse Sanam but I hope she gets the chance to redeem herself only after getting her share of punishment. Sorry but so far I fail to sympathize with a woman like her.
Edited by trina2010 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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BEST.POST.EVER. Period.
No we wouldn't! And I'm honestly tired of people wanting her to be a good person! Hello! Not every woman in this world is goody two shoes? There needs to be a grey area here too! And honestly people making fun of the fact that she ate out of garbage. 😕
Heartless. To say the least. A child who was once the apple of her parent's eyes is now eating from the garbage! How is that funny? It breaks my heart. We don't know how she got to Rosy and Shishupal! And yes nurture does effect people! In the end blood is merely biological.
Seher! Is she selfish? Yep! Let her be flawed! She was raised by thugs! And claiming she's Asad and Zoya's daughter so she should be good is kind of ridiculous. I mean were they there to raise her? Nope!
Sanam is a good person because she was raised by Dilshad! And in the end despite a lot of hardships! She had a family! An elder to support her.
Who did Seher have? No one. I don't count Rosy and her crony.
Aahil was raised as a bad person. Why? Because of Tanveer. He changed his ways because of Sanam, but who is to say that if Sanam leaves him he won't turn back the same Aahil Raza Ibrahim. And I'm tired of people bashing him too. He's known her for what 3-4 months?! Yes he is her soulmate. So? Sometimes we don't understand the way people behave, even those we've known for all our lives.
Edited by SurbhikiPankhi - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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MANDY thanks a lot for this post

Totally agree with every word you said
Bad boy in love is Hot and why bad girl in love is vamp she is not


Every time she made a decision which is wrong she made it when she felt rejection from rehan the only giys she loves
forst time she agreed was when rehan told her to leave his life
today again

Remember the hope look on her face when she saw him with that bill and when he throws it she still hopes and try to ask him why he kept it for this long if not important
she for once wanted to know he still feels for her just one hope amd then those tears in her eyes tjey said everything
she was broken and in thaf heartbreak she again agreed to razia

Like you said when a bad boy falls for a girl he falls hard exactly same way she fell for rehan no comeback frkm that


Whenever aahil said love about sanam she feels it she said she can't ruin someone home for her sake

When she said happy birthday nahi hai jo hum har saal naye tarike se mnate hai shaddi hai aur ek h vad hoti hai

Even she realise value of marriage and relations

ONLY rehan's love can save her from self destruction as you said i really wish she gets to know that he loves her


The day sehar entered as shaikh wife jn IM Mansion amd said in sahil room she wants a life like thaf since that day even i said i don't want sehar to come between sahil as that won't be appropriate track for sisters later on

So when sehar and rehan met i was happy and now i want it that way only

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Excellent post Mandy. Makes me think.

Hmm would i judge Sunheri as harshly as I do her now,if she were a man, conning his sister-in-law into a marriage for money?I would.
Does it make any difference that she lost her love and she is heartbroken?No.
Her actions makes me think of the teenager who never had a girl- friend going and shooting bunch of girls for imaginary slight.
Sure,Rehan ditching her is a trigger for her to probably not listen to her conscious and act her thief with a golden heart self.
Man or woman identity theft and aiding and abetting abduction&possible murder are crimes.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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I was wondering why the forum was being so harsh to Suneri when I work up this morning... And I felt really bad for her! Like come on! Yes, she's a women, yes, she is a con-women! So what? Didn't you see her arguing with Razia that she wouldn't do it? Does she even know that these people are related to her? She doesn't know she has her family here! She doesn't know that the lovestruck Ahil is actually her Jeeju! She's just doing her bloody job that was assigned to her and here we see people actually mocking her eating from the trashbin! What's so funny about it? Do you laugh at those orphaned children who actually eat from the streets, when they have no one to give them food? It was so ridiculous reading such stuff earlier!
It's a hard life that Seher went through. Did she have any Tom, Dick or Harry, Jill,Jane or Mary to guide her? NO! Did she have people to teach her what was right and what was wrong? NO! Did she have a privilege for mannerism to be taught to her? NO! She only knows one thing and that is to con. But she has a heart too, a heart that needs acceptance. She knows what she's doing is wrong. She knows that Ahil truly loves Sanam but she also know that there is something wrong with the way things are in this house... That,this Begam Saibha is a big bad wolf! She is not coming in between SaHil. She's infact running away from Ahil every time he comes close to her. The only person she wants to be with is Rehan but he's moving further away from her and it breaks her heart.. If Rehan still had any attachment left for her, you would probably see her confiding in him the very next moment about her situation. Who cares about Razia or the money anyway!

It's not about the money for Seher, but it's about Rehan and his acceptance. The reason she's still in that house is because she probably thinks there's a tiny chance that Rehan would think about her! You actually think she's wants Ahil and his money and to take Sanam's place? Oh Please! I think that's probably the last thing on her mind! Everytime Rehan breaks her heart when she yearns to hear something otherwise, she does something big, further emphasizing on why she isn't the best suited for him.. Not condoning her con-act behavior at all but then not judging her either..

Seher is probably going to run away from the Nikkah,Razia and probably Rehan too and she would keep running till she finds an acceptance of her and of the way she is and this is probably through Sanam... Till then, I guess we should give this girl a break.




Edited by amare_ashy - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Mandy, I don't think I have seen many posts from you which I totally disagree with so far...but this time I have a totally different take...

Love is not an emotion only experienced by the good...yes...the biggest criminals and war loads in the world also have love stories of their own...Actually history is abound with many such cases...

Now you agree that what Sunehri is doing is really bad, but you are saying that you understand that its her broken heart that's making her do it and thus you feel for her as well.?????

For me, I DON"T feel anything for her "heartache", because for one thing, I doubt that she has fallen in love in its real pureness, but yes I agree that she has come across a finer emotion in her life for the first time but it has a long way to go for it to be comparable to a pure and deep love that Sahil were shown to have.
Second, even if it was love there is no way in hell that would make me understand and be sympathetic to a person agreeing to ruin somoneone else's life while at the same time risking the very life of someone in the process, just because she herself is scorned in love...
If anything if her heart was good, this would have actually made her more sympathetic and understand others in love and if nothing else would have just left by now even though she might not go out of her way and make things right and bring back Sanam.

Love in its real sense makes us want to change ourselves because thats one of those pure god given emotions that humans experience and thus it does not matter whether we are lucky in love or not or whether our love is reciprocated or not...So for me if Sunehri is really experiencing this kind of love she would have changed for the better, whether Rehan loved her in return or not.

Case in point, lets look at Ahil and his journey in love...his love made him totally change himself and become a better person and that journey started from the beginning even when he had no hopes of Sanam loving him ever...Its actually his change in behavior which made Sanam love him and here Sunehri is expecting Rehan to love her despite her going ahead with lying and thieving the very reason that he threw her out...

Now even if for arguments sake I agree that Sunehri does deeply love Rehan, still my heart is not big enough to understand her position and feel for her heartache when she is willingly aiding in kidnapping/risking someone's life and ruining the lives of a couple so apparently and deeply in love...

As for would I judge less harshly if this was a guy,,,,,I feel that humans in general judge women less harshly when it comes to criminal behavior where else a guy would be judged more harshly for crimes...
If the question is about love, even then I would say that we would judge women less harshly because love and such finer emotions are more associated with women and we believe they understand such emotions better than men.
If the question is about promiscuity, then yes I do agree that we would judge a woman more harshly.

However here in the forum most of the posts and harsh judgements are about her criminal behavior more than anything else and how far, or rather how LOW she is willing to go for money.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: simran_singh_24

Excellent post Mandy. Makes me think.

Hmm would i judge Sunheri as harshly as I do her now,if she were a man, conning his sister-in-law into a marriage for money?I would.
Does it make any difference that she lost her love and she is heartbroken?No.
Her actions makes me think of the teenager who never had a girl- friend going and shooting bunch of girls for imaginary slight.
Sure,Rehan ditching her is a trigger for her to probably not listen to her conscious and act her thief with a golden heart self.
Man or woman identity theft and aiding and abetting abduction&possible murder are crimes.


Well she is not aware that he is her brother in law. Is she now? The real question to judge should be whether she would still do it if she knew that he's her brother in law. Well victims of the world do become the criminals. It's the frustration and jealousy of the people who have everything that causes this.

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