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Posted: 11 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: delena90


Humeira doesn't deserve to be betrayed. But unfortunately it's the price she's paying for her utter stupidity.

agreed she will pay the price even though she doesnt deserve it.Yes her actions have been stupid but for none of them she deserves this kind of humliation(if at all they have slept toghether) but in any case like i said the kind of soceity we live in girls have pay a much bigger price for smallest of their mistakes
All i want is haider who is also a culprit should suffer as well.I know in real life guys like haider dont suffer but i really hope atleast in this reel life they show him suffering
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Posted: 11 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

i agree Ghazia,Ayaan and Humaira will all learn and bear the consequences of their actions.In humaira's case i do feel the consequences are much worse than her actions but that's the kind of soceity we live in not much can be done about it

But my questions is what about haider shouldn't he as well bear the consequences if this vile act?I think he should as well.He shouldnt be allowed to scott free he deserves to suffer as well

Haider lost everything because of Ghazia and has suffered a lot in life.
That being said, He will most likely die at the end of his track, as he is the baazigar.
I very strongly believe that nothing happened. Humeira became his Kajol and now Kajol will get married her SRK who most likely is still Ayaan.
I do hope that I made sense.:)
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Posted: 11 years ago
#43
I'd say I agree and disagree with you. Agree on Haider using Humaira for revenge like this wasn't cool at all, I don't support it and that's coming from a big Haider lover. But having said that it was by no means a rape and it takes two to tango so I doubt Haider wouldve gone ahead with it if Humaira hadn't thrown that I trust you line at him, she literally gave him consent for it so I disagree upon it. About the question of does Humaira deserves a punishment like this? I'd say no but neither does all those girls who fall in love blindly and cross their limits without thinking and later suffer for it. But don't you think this is a good way to give out a message to girls about being more careful about trusting people and not taking impulsive decisions. I'd really applaud the cvs if they use this medium to give away a positive message to the youth as these things are pretty much a reality and it takes guts to potray it onscreen and I have high hopes from them as how they take it forward, everything is not sugar coated in real life as they potray it onscreen and if they wanna show the dark side of romance for awareness I'm all up for it, that would be a bold and courageous step by the cvs. And I hope they show the repercussions of it for both Haider and Humaira that will be one hell of an interesting track.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: Sabhayata


1)How is it humaira throwing herslef at haider?She is in love andagrees to sleep with a guy she loves how is that throwing yourself at a guy.That means every girl who has pre martial sex becuase she is in love throws herself at the guy?Sorry but i dont agree her only fault is trusting a guys like haider so soon.I agree with the other part guys tend to these kind of things with girls hence girls should definately be carefull or think about giving themselves away like this.I agree but what about the guy?Why cant they chage their mentality?Why should always girls be carefull dont wear short clothes,dont go out at night ,dont trust any guy easily all these rules for girls but no one saysguys should change their mind set.


2)Yes agreed he is a villianbut thenhe should suffer the fate of a villian as well.He deserves to be suffer the consequences of hisactions and get punished in some way as well


3)Agreed hope so they havent


4)Again agree its karma Gazia and no doubt Gazia deserve this but not humaira but i guess children have to bear the consequences of their parents actions as well.Again same question will haider also face his karma?



How has she not thrown herself at him? Falling in love with a person doesn't me you drop your panties at the first sign of affection from the guy! Also people don't have pre marital sex because they are in love. The notion that sex and love go together is juvenile (sorry). Sex is sex. It can be amazing with a person you love but love is not a prerequisite for sex. Humeira is has consented to sex- she has allowed herself to be used by a man who she knows has incurred the wrath of her parents. In her bid to rebel she has done what all immature kids do - chosen the wrong path that will lead to consequences. I am not about to sit here and feel sorry for her when she had the choice to say no!

As for haider - of course he will suffer the consequences too. I wouldn't be surprised if he winds up dead. But the idea that what he has done is criminal is something I don't agree with at all. He's unethical for using a girl but be wouldn't have been able to in the first place had humeira been smarter. She isn't a victim of haider. She's a victim of bad choices...her own bad choices!

As for girls being careful? This isn't about girls vs boys. Girls manipulate and use men as much as the other way round. I don't think humeira is wrong for sleeping with haider. I think she's an idiot. And there is a difference.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: Tinkerbelle88

I'd say I agree and disagree with you. Agree on Haider using Humaira for revenge like this wasn't cool at all, I don't support it and that's coming from a big Haider lover. But having said that it was by no means a rape and it takes two to tango so I doubt Haider wouldve gone ahead with it if Humaira hadn't thrown that I trust you line at him, she literally gave him consent for it so I disagree upon it. About the question of does Humaira deserves a punishment like this? I'd say no but neither does all those girls who fall in love blindly and cross their limits without thinking and later suffer for it. But don't you think this is a good way to give out a message to girls about being more careful about trusting people and not taking impulsive decisions. I'd really applaud the cvs if they use this medium to give away a positive message to the youth as these things are pretty much a reality and it takes guts to potray it onscreen and I have high hopes from them as how they take it forward, everything is not sugar coated in real life as they potray it onscreen and if they wanna show the dark side of romance for awareness I'm all up for it, that would be a bold and courageous step by the cvs. And I hope they show the repercussions of it for both Haider and Humaira that will be one hell of an interesting track.

Agreed with most of your post

For clarification i never said this is rape you can recheck my post again may be you read some one else's even for me this isn't rape since humaira wasn't physically or mentally forced into this.It was taking advantage of a situation or some one's feelings which also is wrong but isn't rape i agree neither did i even say that.

And also i agree this is a good way to tell girls not to trust any one easily or at least take time before trusting any one i do agree

But like i said what about the guys. Will this track be used to give a message to guys that using girls like this is wrong and shouldn't be done.Why should all messages be for girls be carful ,dont go late at night dont wear sort clothes why must always girls get this message and not the guys.

Speaking of this track i do agree this message should go put to girls but i also want this message should go out to guys that what haider did is wrong it is wrong to treat a girl like this .hence i want Haider to suffer as well so that guys can get a message as well that women should be respect and not used like this

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Posted: 11 years ago
#46
Hmm... Actually what is in Haider's mind? He wants to blackmail Gafy into allowing him to marry Humeira. He finds pleasure in Gafy's pain and has realised that he loves Humeira...and may be wants to guard that thought...he is not willing to feel weak in her love... I think it was just a drama for Gafy's heartbreak...the said act may not have taken place...may not have. Going by Haider's characterisation so far, it is unlikely he will take such a drastic step...😊
So...let us wait and see...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: gossipgirlxoxo

Haider lost everything because of Ghazia and has suffered a lot in life.

That being said, He will most likely die at the end of his track, as he is the baazigar.
I very strongly believe that nothing happened. Humeira became his Kajol and now Kajol will get married her SRK who most likely is still Ayaan.
I do hope that I made sense.:)


AAp hai yahan par...😳

Dekho dekho...even I feel nothing happened..😆

But SRK...now there we differ...it is Haider😛
Main mere Ayan ke liye doosri ladki dhoondne gayi hoon...in case U did notr notice, I have taken a break from the show to do an active search!😛😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sabhayata

Okay you didn't mentioned it, since a lot ppl here did I confused it with your posts my apologies. Well I clearly mentioned repercussions for both HaiRa as they were both equally responsible for it so obviously I'm not leaving Haider out of it, he will suffer to and I guess living with a bruised conscience for the rest of his life is a very severe punishment and he might also lose the girl forever. The fact that I said it will be a lesson for girls because unfortunately in the real world they suffer more because of it, and I hope this track gives a strong and much needed message to the young boys and girls.


Agreed with most of your post


For clarification i never said this is rape you can recheck my post again may be you read some one else's even for me this isn't rape since humaira wasn't physically or mentally forced into this.It was taking advantage of a situation or some one's feelings which also is wrong but isn't rape i agree neither did i even say that.



And also i agree this is a good way to tell girls not to trust any one easily or at least take time before trusting any one i do agree



But like i said what about the guys. Will this track be used to give a message to guys that using girls like this is wrong and shouldn't be done.Why should all messages be for girls be carful ,dont go late at night dont wear sort clothes why must always girls get this message and not the guys.



Speaking of this track i do agree this message should go put to girls but i also want this message should go out to guys that what haider did is wrong it is wrong to treat a girl like this .hence i want Haider to suffer as well so that guys can get a message as well that women should be respect and not used like this


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Every girl who sleeps with a man she's in love with and she doesn't know is in love with her is an idiot. You can't change that fact. Just because you love someone you can't expect them to love you back. I think you missed my whole point of sex being exactly that...just sex. If you want to sleep with someone you should but don't do it other the false assumption that they will marry you and live with you forever. Life happens, things change. I may sleep with my boyfriend today and I may not love him tomorrow. He can't sit there and cry and feel betrayed because we had sex. Sex and love are vastly different things. Love leads to sex but sex doesn't necessarily guarantee love and haider for his part has never said he loves her to her! That should have been her first clue. She is willingly making the choice to sleep with a man she doesn't know loves her. She knows he's making these promises but how many promises are ever kept? Didn't she learn the hard way that they can be broken? Re - Ayaan!

Again don't understand how the girl boy equation has come up! Haider isn't being blamed because HE IS EVIL. This is what is expected of his character. Humeira on the other hand has put herself in this situation ever since she accused him of rape! What she did was disgusting and in fact worse because she is supposedly the "good" character. Yet we didn't call her out did we? If we are making it a girl vs boy issue then Humeira cannot be absolved of her actions on the basis that she is a girl.

Humeira isn't getting any sympathy because she isn't a victim of haider here, she is his willing participant. That he turns out to be a jackass is something she should have considered.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Haider was very much called out for his behavior against humeira. And if recall apart from me and a few others nobody thought to call Humeira an insufferable brat for what she did. When haider kissed her instead of kissing him back and storming out after she could have slapped him and screamed blue mirder. She was in her own house wasn't she?

I really think we are at an impasse because either I am not putting my point across clearly or you don't understand it. But I'll try again. The risks of premarital sex is always the fact that one or both partners involved in the act are lying! Unlike in a marriage where sex is maybe an expression of love or maybe just a purely functional act to reproduce. Premarital sex isn't about that. Has haider deceived her? - yes he has! Nobody is saying he hasn't. But promising to never leave you and claiming he loves you are two different things. In fact there are cases where people profess love (they don't feel) and sleep with each other only to break up. That is the risk and consequence an individual takes if he/chooses to engage in premarital sex. A man/woman lying to you about their feelings isn't uncommon. It happens all the time and I am sorry to say is not illegal. Unethical maybe...cruel yes. But not much more than that.

Nobody is absolving blame from haider but I don't have to sympathize with humeira either. Because her own actions have put her in this situation. If you are adult enough to make such decisions that be adult enough to accept the heartbreak and pain that sexual relationships also come with. You cant cry and run to mummy and feel sorry for yourself for a love affair gone wrong. Because whatever haiders motives are (and he will pay for them) this just a torrid affair that will go horribly wrong.

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