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Posted: 11 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: GredandForge

If Zoya and Ayaan were married by force or by circumstances, I agree with what you say. But from the article, it implies that the marriage is an accident. So however you are married you'll accept it?

Is that what Gul Khan is trying to show?
And yet if Zoya wants to give it a chance then I wouldn't call it sticking to morals, its just ego and stupidity.

On the other hand, if circumstances had forced her to do so and she has accepted her fate and wants to commit to the relationship then it at least reflects the case of many women who have moved on.

Realistically, star crossed lovers doesn't happen.


I think its going to LOOK like they were married by circumstance... To the point that either they will think that it happened because of kismat/muqaddar, or they will not be able to convince anyone that they did not actually get married. Either way, they will be caught in a trap...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tingding


Well I guess it would be interesting to debate that. For me the ceremony of marriage is as important as the practice and feelings behind it. Having said that I do not think child marriages or forced marriages make any sense, precisely because is no commitment, choice, no respect and no affection. Lets see what Ayan and Zoya think about it. While we sort of know Zoya's stand on it and why she will initially try to make it work, I cannot imagine why Ayan would want to continue with this farce. I have faith that something logical will be shown, just it would be too painful.


A debate would be great! But my thought is... Is the ceremony even real? Remember the suhaag raat and billis yucky hickeys ... Thats all it was... Technically. Same principle here.

Any thoughts on Ayaans point of view or dilemma? He is only just beginning to grow up. Do you think he is ready for this?

Oh, and why is everyone forgetting RAZIA?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: KulfiBai

Wonderful post! I still don't believe Zoyaan will marry, though. I'm not sure what exactly will happen to shatter Zoya's views about nikah being taumar. Because it's not. Circumstances change and so do people.

I have ranted enough today so I cannot say anything else, only that your post is very insightful!


Thank you!😃

Tanveer will cook up something imaginative though. I just hope she does not trap Asad again into a web of lies. RAZIA darling, tumhari intezaar hai!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Wowee... what a wonderful post... I was about start a new discussion point

"Till death do us part..."

This is the English version of Zoya's statement to Asad, right... the "taa umar" thingy...

In all religions, I'm sure this is the solemn vow that every married couple takes.

Now as a discussion point, to what length should this vow be honoured by a married couple? Should a person be guilty if they break this promise? Is it better to be happy in life or live unhappily because of a "vada". (I know this depends on circumstances)

And you have answered this so well...

PS. I only wish they would have done it differently, i.e. if the media is right... maybe there is no other way.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tingding

I also think its a lesson for Ayan. Most importantly it is necessary for several truths to be revealed. Only thing I am sad about is Asad and Humeira's heartbreak. I am not sure Asad will ever be able to believe in love again, having had his heart broken twice. What happens post the dissolution of Zoyaan marriage is what is going to be interesting. Till then I am taking a break, because I cannot see so much of angst. I watch serials to unwind and chill, not to get more stressed.


Humeira may not know. Even though Asad will have the shock of his life, he may not fully believe what has happened. In the promo, the last frame, he is still behind Zoya but in front of Tanveer protecting Zoya.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: beekay1

Wowee... what a wonderful post... I was about start a new discussion point


"Till death do us part..."

This is the English version of Zoya's statement to Asad, right... the "taa umar" thingy...

In all religions, I'm sure this is the solemn vow that every married couple takes.

Now as a discussion point, to what length should this vow be honoured by a married couple? Should a person be guilty if they break this promise? Is it better to be happy in life or live unhappily because of a "vada". (I know this depends on circumstances)

And you have answered this so well...

PS. I only wish they would have done it differently, i.e. if the media is right... maybe there is no other way.

Do post your thoughts! Again, questions like these are the stuff of epics... If you have already accepted someone in your heart, then a forced marriage or accidental one to someone else... Would that not be the fake marriage? Muqaddar, kismat, izzat, haya... Qubool hai has its characters caught up in either commoditizing them, or falling prey to them. Asad almost fell prey to one who made a mockery of morals.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Take a bow.This is the first sane post I have come across in the last few days.Kudos to you.👏

Yes the questions you ask are pertinent and would love to debate them, if I were in favor of what is to come. I just don't see how in a "muslim" setting, a couple will say Qubool Hai after proclaiming/displaying their love for another. Hindu show hota to mein isko mind nahi karti. Also, the way this marriage track is being hyped and played out, is plain illogical and insulting to me.

Yes I do believe in life-long committment. But would I live with a man who abuses me? Abuses my kids? A big fat NO. He will probably be rotting in Jail by the time he thinks of repeating his action. Infact, I have very strong feelings about this particular situation.

Same applies in a situation where a couple is fully committed to each other and are only waiting for society's stamp of approval. If they have love, trust, respect, committment, and understanding, for me they are married. The marriage license is just a license to have sex (only in our eastern culture). Period. In this situation, if one of the partners, is "married" to another (forcefuly or by accident), I do not support the continuation of the farce of a marriage. I would rather be Meera and be loyal to my true love.

There is a lot to say, but not enough time. Will be back later.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rivya

Take a bow.This is the first sane post I have come across in the last few days.Kudos to you.👏


Yes the questions you ask are pertinent and would love to debate them, if I were in favor of what is to come. I just don't see how in a "muslim" setting, a couple will say Qubool Hai after proclaiming/displaying their love for another. Hindu show hota to mein isko mind nahi karti. Also, the way this marriage track is being hyped and played out, is plain illogical and insulting to me.

Yes I do believe in life-long committment. But would I live with a man who abuses me? Abuses my kids? A big fat NO. He will probably be rotting in Jail by the time he thinks of repeating his action. Infact, I have very strong feelings about this particular situation.

Same applies in a situation where a couple is fully committed to each other and are only waiting for society's stamp of approval. If they have love, trust, respect, committment, and understanding, for me they are married. The marriage license is just a license to have sex (only in our eastern culture). Period. In this situation, if one of the partners, is "married" to another (forcefuly or by accident), I do not support the continuation of the farce of a marriage. I would rather be Meera and be loyal to my true love.

There is a lot to say, but not enough time. Will be back later.
Rivs


Thanks! Good example about Meera...

@underlined... Hell yeah!

That said there is a big difference between divorce/ judaai and moving on... Wonder if that loophole will be explored..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Oldestfan


I think its going to LOOK like they were married by circumstance... To the point that either they will think that it happened because of kismat/muqaddar, or they will not be able to convince anyone that they did not actually get married. Either way, they will be caught in a trap...


In that case will the question of fidelity and commitment arise?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Oldestfan

Do post your thoughts! Again, questions like these are the stuff of epics... If you have already accepted someone in your heart, then a forced marriage or accidental one to someone else... Would that not be the fake marriage? Muqaddar, kismat, izzat, haya... Qubool hai has its characters caught up in either commoditizing them, or falling prey to them. Asad almost fell prey to one who made a mockery of morals.


@red: This is an interesting question. My POV, its an "yes" and "no" when it comes to forced...
Accidental marriage... to be honest... I don't know if one can get married accidentally. ❓
Yes --> if both the couples are being forced into the marriage and both couples must be honest about it with each other before the wedding. You may then if they have been open why did they even go ahead with the marriage. In most families in India, the couples would not have had a choice but to go ahead with the marriage.
No --> if only one of the couples have been forced into it and the other goes into the marriage with all his/her heart. If you have already accepted someone in your heart and you are being forced into a marriage, then it is important to speak about it to the other person. It is only fair as the other person is also making his/her life-time commitment in all honesty thinking that all is well.

Regarding the SR track of Asad's, even though I did not watch it, even though I felt they could have shown a different track in breaking Asad's judgemental attitude, I was OK with it but it just went on and on and on and the point on why the track started was lost.
I hope they don't do the same here and I also hope they have this track (Zoyaan) for all the right reasons like the growth of Zoya's and Ayaan's character. I sinscerely hope they do drag the track.
It was such a relief that did not drag Rajveer's track and Vikram's track.


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