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Posted: 12 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Ankita.M

I am sorry I disagree, this is no matter of how much one knows the other. This is a matter of concern, Asad and the Khans all of them are her family, everyone is concerned for her, but Asad's concern just pours out in anger. He wasn't angry about her going there it was about informing them that she was safe. If I was out without informing someone responsible from my family and walked in late while there was a conveyance strike outside my parents would be sick worried too and would reprimand me as well. Asad is the caretaker here, so if he reprimanded Zoya for being careless it was not because he hasn't understood her but because he loves her, he'd do that to Najma too.

I think in this case Has Zoya really understood Asad?
Yes at one time it was about his rules, but now its about his concern for her, he's always been overly possessive about his family and close ones and protective as well, I think it was necessary for her to calm down when she could see he was concerned.


Ankita, Its not easy to change overnight. and sometimes the concern and being overly poseesive can get very claustrophobic to an independant person... Zoya has been an independant person living her life based on schedules set be her. Now she has live and plan her schedules based on other people's "free" time. She sees Najma walk in and out of the house (before curfew time) without a problem. Believe me, its not easy.

Now again... did she do anything wrong, I don't think so, It was a taxi strike. Najma took the bus to college and back. Nikhat took the bus to college and back. Najma told Zoya about the bus only because even Najma thought it was ok. What Najma and Zoya did not realise was that the taxi strike could impact bus schedules. Zoya planned to come back on time. Just that the buses go cancelled.

What went wrong here... communication... Asad explaining to Zoya what a strike in India means and Zoya letting Asad know that she took the bus.

P.S I understand where Zoya is coming from... Everytime I go back to India, I start getting claustrophobic by the third day. I get smothered by it...
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Posted: 12 years ago
#12
loved your post...zoya was a little immature but yes i can understand her POV..and i can understand asad's outburst too...i will comment about asad and zoya only wen i see tomorrow's episode coz precap only show glimpses not the whole story...
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Posted: 12 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: beekay1


Ankita, Its not easy to change overnight. and sometimes the concern and being overly poseesive can get very claustrophobic to an independant person... Zoya has been an independant person living her life based on schedules set be her. Now she has live and plan her schedules based on other people's "free" time. She sees Najma walk in and out of the house (before curfew time) without a problem. Believe me, its not easy.

Now again... did she do anything wrong, I don't think so, It was a taxi strike. Najma took the bus to college and back. Nikhat took the bus to college and back. Najma told Zoya about the bus only because even Najma thought it was ok. What Najma and Zoya did not realise was that the taxi strike could impact bus schedules. Zoya planned to come back on time. Just that the buses go cancelled.

What went wrong here... communication... Asad explaining to Zoya what a strike in India means and Zoya letting Asad know that she took the bus.

P.S I understand where Zoya is coming from... Everytime I go back to India, I start getting claustrophobic by the third day. I get smothered by it...


Its not easy for anyone to change not for Asad not for Zoya but here the argument is not about changing, its about UNDERSTANDING the concern the family has for you instead of saying you do not need them to worry about you? Its not about being independent its about understanding the concern the family has. Asad was not reprimanding her for going, it was about informing him that she is fine. If there was a strike there would be conveyance issues and the buses here indeed have only a limited of time of working btw. And she has been in India and a part of that family for too long, to not understand where the concern stems from. I think her screaming back at Asad was not justified, he shouted at her out of concern and it would be visible to a blind man as well. The words she used in retaliation have nothing to do about being smothered or feeling claustrophobic it is about being not able to take someone reprimanding you. If you're going to tell me Zoya going off without informing Asad, not informing about her wherabouts that late at night and taking a lift from a stranger is all justified and Asad shouting at her in concern is not, I don't know what to say 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
#14
Zoya needs to understand Asad and his family. Asad is changing for her why the F*** cant she do the same???She has still the same ways. look at her guts she comes back latenight gives that stupid grin and on top yells back at Asad???Why the hell she never opened her mouth when he used to blast her on stupid times?
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Posted: 12 years ago
#15

Originally posted by: Ankita.M


Its not easy for anyone to change not for Asad not for Zoya but here the argument is not about changing, its about UNDERSTANDING the concern the family has for you instead of saying you do not need them to worry about you? Its not about being independent its about understanding the concern the family has. Asad was not reprimanding her for going, it was about informing him that she is fine. If there was a strike there would be conveyance issues and the buses here indeed have only a limited of time of working btw. And she has been in India and a part of that family for too long, to not understand where the concern stems from. I think her screaming back at Asad was not justified, he shouted at her out of concern and it would be visible to a blind man as well. The words she used in retaliation have nothing to do about being smothered or feeling claustrophobic it is about being not able to take someone reprimanding you. If you're going to tell me Zoya going off without informing Asad, not informing about her wherabouts that late at night and taking a lift from a stranger is all justified and Asad shouting at her in concern is not, I don't know what to say 😊


I state this as I really understand Zoya's POV. Zoya did wait for Asad to get her taxi. She did not walk out of the house when he apologized that he could not organise one for her. Its only when Najma told her that she get there and back by bus 67 that she went out. And I'm sure in her eccitement she would have forgotten to inform.

This is Zoya's first experience of a strike, right. She doesn't know that a taxi strike can have an impact on buses too. Even Najma didn't think so, right. Zoya does know that Asad and his family love and care about her. She understands that. Zoya is feeling guilty but she did not stay back late on purpose. She did try to call, her concern was Asad and his reaction.

Shouting at Zoya and calling her irresponsible is not the way for Asad to react. Nobody likes being treated like a child whether the person is right or wrong. Asad has the right to be angry, no doubt...but he could have handled it differently.

Zoya is already feeling guilty, she was scared out of her wits. She smiled when the door opened out of sheer relief and not because she was pleased with herself.

He should have told her, he was worried and asked her why she had'nt called to inform them. I'm sure that Zoya would have first apologized and then explained. Zoya has done so in the past with Dilshad.

One of the statements that Zoya shouted back at Asad during the precap was that she did not think she needs to get "permission" from Asad everytime she wanted to go out. Informing and asking for permission are two different things.

The change that need to come from Zoya is that she need to realise that she needs to "inform". Asad need to realise that he needs start acting like her partner in life and not her father.

@red It's not that an independant person does not want to inform anybody about their whereabouts, its just that it slips out their mind unintentionally as they are not used to accounting for everyhting that they do. She did not plan to stay that late at night. She did not get transport back and it got late. Did she have a choice about taking that lift from a stranger? Zoya just wanted get out of there. She could not make a phone call, nor could she wait around there.



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Posted: 12 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: sana_sugarbun

Zoya needs to understand Asad and his family. Asad is changing for her why the F*** cant she do the same???She has still the same ways. look at her guts she comes back latenight gives that stupid grin and on top yells back at Asad???Why the hell she never opened her mouth when he used to blast her on stupid times?



Zoya has changed a lot for Asad. Watch the mini-skirt episode. even Asad has acknowledgement that.

Zoya smiled out of relief in being to reach home safely.

Yes, Zoya shouted back because instead of asking the question why, what happened, Asad shouted at her calling her irresponsible (based on the precap). let's see what really happened in tomorrow's episode.

She never opened her mouth in the past as she understood Asad and his nature before and she adjusted to it. Why did she shout now? Because she is feeling guilty and she was scared.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#17
Since you have conveniently brought up the point that she has been brought up as an indepedent lady of the states, why did she not exercise the precautions that most girls here have learned? Such as the fact that maybe she shouldn't have led the prettyboy to her house.

She's so ignorant towards her surroundings sometimes. It could be something very simple. Such as, since she didn't hear the car driving away, she should've looked back. And seen the creep starting at her booty. And then there is also a perception of surroundings. As Shru mentioned, smiling ear to ear? Really Zoya? If I were Asad, I would've blown up too.

And I definitely don't think Zoya was lightning up the atmosphere. That goodbye scene to Rajvir? It seemed as if she had completely forgotten the fact that there is a famiy waiting, worried sick out of their minds, for her.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#18
Agree, but what Zoe did today was really irresponsible, She should know that she is not in NY, even if she wanted to go, she could just let Asad know she is going by bus, how about giving a call while coming back? How about take care of all the things before you leave? may be check cell battery before, how she behave like this?
Asad being Asad behaved the way he is supposed to behave, sure he should talk with her in private but he must be really worried, sometimes it happens, I think this is going to teach her a good lesson, I get a feeling that this guy is another Vikram Shukla, or the whole staring could be misleading, he looked really creepy though. I really hope the new entry will make both more mature, and help their relationship.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#19
I tahink zoe should act a lil moreresponsibly...there are many people in her life who love her and care fore her...she knew asad will get tensed when he ll come to know that she izz not at home inspite of curfew in city...asad'S reaction was quite predictable and justified...but no praablm new entry ko b to laana tha iss liye zoe gaii 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
#20

Originally posted by: -Jazzy-

Since you have conveniently brought up the point that she has been brought up as an indepedent lady of the states, why did she not exercise the precautions that most girls here have learned? Such as the fact that maybe she shouldn't have led the prettyboy to her house.

She's so ignorant towards her surroundings sometimes. It could be something very simple. Such as, since she didn't hear the car driving away, she should've looked back. And seen the creep starting at her booty. And then there is also a perception of surroundings. As Shru mentioned, smiling ear to ear? Really Zoya? If I were Asad, I would've blown up too.

And I definitely don't think Zoya was lightning up the atmosphere. That goodbye scene to Rajvir? It seemed as if she had completely forgotten the fact that there is a famiy waiting, worried sick out of their minds, for her.


One does not bite the hand that feeds us. From Zoya's POV, she was uncomfortable initially when she got into the car. She got jittery when Rajveer stared at her, but he turned it around by saying that he scraf was caught in the door. Now he must be a charmer. Rajveer did not behave negatively towards her on her ride home. I'm sure that he was polite and decent in his conversations with her. He could have misbehaved with her but he didn't. Zoya by nature is an outgoing person. He did not even say he wanted to meet her again. Just asked her to call him Rajveer.

Asad stared at Zoya when he first met her at the mosque, right? Did that make Asad a creep? He stared at her when he almost knocked her down by his car, right?

Again, there is no doubt Zoya is naive. Even Asad acknowledgement that fact (The hand-holding through wall scene) Zoya is stubborn but naive and innocent. This is the Zoya all of us fell for, right?

Her smile was the polite smile of thanks and gratitude to have been able to have reached home. Nothing more, nothing less. And no she had not forgotten about the fact Dilshad, Najma and Asad would be worried. Zoya's smile was a smile of relief when she saw Asad. After that she looked beyond Asad towards Dilshad.

Remember Zoya cannot see what we viewers can see. She just saw a man who was decent and who dropped her home.

When Asad asked to cancel her plan, she did and she sat at home dejected until Najma told her that a bus could take her to the place and back. Even Najma did not think they would be a problem. Did Zoya get late or did not call on purpose? No, circumstances made it happen... Late because there was no bus back and she waited and waited. Then could not call as there was no signal and then after that the phone went dead.

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