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Posted: 12 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: delena90



I am not disagreeing with that assessment of imran's character, I am merely pointing out the general hypocrisy of not being able to see his pov when other characters who we love have done the same or worse.

For eg: Ayaan is learning to be responsible now but he is still quite the callous little brat - yet we have a tendency to want to forgive him.

Asad, now, has started to take responsibility for his actions that led to such a big mess in his life and the lives of people he loves.

Zoya, though better than most other characters, lost her marbles when confronted by tanveer (I understand it was poor writing but the fact remains they are things her character did)

Even dilshaad shied away from the responsibility and loyalty towards her son when it came to rashid.

All of these things don't make these people bad just flawed and imran is one such flawed person. Does he deserve our forgiveness? -not right now but as of now he is a sympathetic character. As an audience I understand where he is coming from so yes I do feel sorry for him.

Btw I am happy to call him the irredeemable if we can all agree that not matter what asad or Ayaan do they will never be redeemed for the way they treated their significant others. In Ayana's case even the terrible way eh treated his brother.



it's a question of integrity. Asad and Ayaan despite their shortcomings, have a lot of integrity as human beings. They might act like jerks but they stand up for the people they love and care for. So far, Imran has shown no signs of being a reliable or responsible human being. Yes, he is redeemable but that means a complete overhaul of his personality.

yes, i can feel sorry for Imran for the man he has been raised to become but not a man I would want my daughter or sister to marry.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: delena90



Asad, Ayaan and gaffur are all weak men too. And yes they have all been douchebags. Real life - I agree this people will forever be dirt under our shoe but on a show hm...

I will make a hp reference when I am back home from work. 😆


I don't think Asad and Ayaan are weak or spineless.

They made some pathetic decisions and have a poor judgements of character but weak they are not. Not in the way Imran is. Sure Asad is weak in his fear of becoming his father.

It's the Imran, Rashid kind of weak that I will never accept. Not owning up to your actions.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I am so happy to see this thread...

finally cvs managed giving a proper reason to immi's behavior ... i do agree that as much as its najma's mistakes its immi's too. if the gal said she want to break off due to her fear , why couldnt he bring a positive attitude in her? he let her go just like that , and najma, immi is of same caste, and chalo maana asad wont have agreed but atleast u could have tried. she atleast was shown as someone who would try before her fears takes over her and same thing she did, well it was a good justified manner of showing why immi is the way he is now , but then again i liked how they showed him saying he went wrong n did wrong things (Bili) and then trying to love nikhat, but when his mom was dragging him out of the house, i felt he did indeed love nikhat, there was a man who is stuck in btw three woman, his mother, his ex lover and then his present one ...

I am really curious to know about Ammi's reaction, as can she bless najma ? in general she could have but now its nikhat who is involved along with brain dead shireen, who have no confidence in her and nether can bring or see any confidence in her children wat a irony, Ammi was Rashid's first and present love , and Najma is Immi;s first and even present love... lets see how this goes

Though i liked complete justification of Immi ckt so far, i blame both him and najma, nikhat is literally been played, not standing for her is onething , and not expressing n trying to love her is another thing .
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Posted: 12 years ago
#94

Originally posted by: bheegi




it's a question of integrity. Asad and Ayaan despite their shortcomings, have a lot of integrity as human beings. They might act like jerks but they stand up for the people they love and care for. So far, Imran has shown no signs of being a reliable or responsible human being. Yes, he is redeemable but that means a complete overhaul of his personality.

yes, i can feel sorry for Imran for the man he has been raised to become but not a man I would want my daughter or sister to marry.



I agree with what you are saying but I don't know where all of you have gotten the idea that I want imran to marry either sister!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: bheegi



it's a question of integrity. Asad and Ayaan despite their shortcomings, have a lot of integrity as human beings. They might act like jerks but they stand up for the people they love and care for. So far, Imran has shown no signs of being a reliable or responsible human being. Yes, he is redeemable but that means a complete overhaul of his personality.

yes, i can feel sorry for Imran for the man he has been raised to become but not a man I would want my daughter or sister to marry.


I agree.

Asad and Ayaan have made mistakes. Lot's of them. No doubt.

But they are not afraid to stand up for what they believe in.

@Red- Bingo.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#96
To a certain extent, I agree with you.
Imran is indeed a weak man perhaps even confused as well. I believe that when Najma broke up with him, he should have at least tried to pacify her and perhaps talk with her bhaijaan and ammi. Maybe the age is to be blamed for (perhaps they were young at that time and didn't know what to do) But that does not mean he had to agree with his ammi decision by getting married to another girl, right? He could have told his ammi about Najma or even be honest to Nikhat. Yes, he did not hurt her or anything. Let's assume they went ahead with the nikaah, they got married aur phir...? He tried to love Nikhat but couldn't so. Of course, he could not love her, because love is a feeling joh bas ho jaata hai.
IMO, both would suffer from the nikaah; Imran and Nikhat. Yes, the poor girl, loves him but it would be really better if he had told her the truth. It would hurt her, but it would be the best for her eventually.

For me, at the moment, Imran is a vague character. I don't pity him but maybe someday I can give him the benefit of a doubt.

This is totally my opinion. Sorry, if I hurt anyone's feelings.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@sangeeta - actually asad and Ayaan have only just developed their integrity because they were hypocrites and Ayaan is not a man of honesty at all - did he not bribe and cheat the system despite not knowing whether his father was innocent.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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The only funny thing about this show is , Every thing is connected to Rashid... most of the women are stuck in triangles and mostly in this triangles, man is always shown as a bit weak and confused but strong when needed, while one woman is always strong and another one is super weak . in case of Nikhat- Immi- Najma its Nikhat who is strong and Najma plain weak (nikhat is compared to Ammi ) and in case of Zoe-Asad- Tanu Zoe was strong ... in case of Ammi-Rashid- Shireen its Ammi who is strong
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: bheegi



it's a question of integrity. Asad and Ayaan despite their shortcomings, have a lot of integrity as human beings. They might act like jerks but they stand up for the people they love and care for. So far, Imran has shown no signs of being a reliable or responsible human being. Yes, he is redeemable but that means a complete overhaul of his personality.

yes, i can feel sorry for Imran for the man he has been raised to become but not a man I would want my daughter or sister to marry.

Do you see the possibility there? Would you take it if they force it on us again like yesterday's 5 minutes scene?
He fathered a child and was ok with Tanveer passing it to another rich guy she was going to trap, was supporting her in that even. He literaly killed the girl inside Nikhat, he made her feel special. Yes Nikhat needed to strong here and never take insults but she took them for him as he behind his mother's back kept coming back to her..
Thanks for last line, one can feel sorry for guy like him from far distance, but would never want to make him part of your life..
As for Asad and Ayaan, they had guts to stand up for someone atleast, who they believed in but this guy never stood for anyone.
Lets see if he has guts to stand for Najma now, who he claim to love with all heart😕, if he marries or even try to meet Najma, behind everyones back again sorry but never feel pity for him. Man him up if you want start redemption for him, else he is coward only and doesnt desrve any chance.
BTW, he told Najma about Nikhat but why not Tanveer
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: delena90



I agree with what you are saying but I don't know where all of you have gotten the idea that I want imran to marry either sister!


i see what you are trying to say. Just like all of us are the products of our environment, ubringing and our genes, so is Imran. There is always a reason why a person turns out the way they are. I understand why imran is such a weakling. Overbearing parents like Haseena produce kids like Imran all the time. From that perspective, yes I understand where Imran is coming from. I can feel sorry for him but not trust him to be a friend or well wisher. Haseena bi is of course at fault for ruining her son's personality

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