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Posted: 12 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: BadGirlKiss

It's a daily soap
People can be this negetive
And why you saying we women should question our self?
Let's see Shyam from IPKND!!!! Hello!!

People's what's wrong with you? It's a daily soap stop getting personal.
A story bound to have negative chracter, other wise how the story will move?

Love QH and it's doing great.

Than we can also say zoya is positive, so we girl must be positive to, let's face it, everyone is negative or positive and beside there is only 2 gender you can study, so what's the biggy?????

It's always male or female than why you all taking everything personally?


GROW UP

Shyam was not a woman and women are generally not as creep as this Billi
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: trina2010

Shyam was not a woman and women are generally not as creep as this Billi


i beg to differ Trina...having seen a lot of desi shows..i can vouch for the fact, that most of them have a creepy woman as the antagonist...Shyam was a rare case of a man being the antagonist in a hindi show...u try watching Uttaran (no offence to its fans)...there in one sequence, the female lead was married and the hero got her to his house for the first time post marriage...the marriage, unknown to her, was done with a motive of revenge with the hero involved as well...there is a ritual wherein the daughter i law has to dip her feet in red kumkum mixed with water and then enter the house marking her entry...the mother in law was shown to mix glass shards in it..and the heroine was shown to walk all the way in pain...and it never ended there...talking about creepier stuff...no better example to give
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sana_sugarbun

Hey Trina. No one will reply much at this time as its technically iftar time for us😛


Thank God you made the post i was glad at least some one brought this topic up. I read the article and badly wanted to reply but everyone agreed so i shut my mouth as well.

Firstly i was shocked that the PH is always ready to send articles defending themselves unnecessarily. 😕Cmon they need to realize that everyone is addicted to the show and no one wants to see the serial losing its charm infront of their eyes. The CVS r showing illogical and heights of negativity in the serial and the CVs expect us to enjoy and shut our mouths???

I agree name calling isnt good. No one did esp to KSG or AG . Everyone did it to their character as they also know very well that audience r sick of Tanveer at this stage.🤢

I dunno im still pissed off that these ppl have the guts to write an article and state that stop name calling and all but are adamant on showing so much of negativity and violence. 🤢Ofcourse at the end of the day fans are fans . They will say whatever it comes to theirs minds.

Trust me some people are actually asking me to GROW UP after reading this post.
That's a shocking reaction for me. Which part of my article proves myself delusional and naive?
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: starsinmyeyes

Hey Trina...your POV has a a viewer tired with the negativity is completely justified...


But I am relieved at the extent of negativity shown..because that assures us that the character is going to meet its end one day..there are so many shows that introduce slightly negative characters and hook them up with the leads...and when that story starts gaining TRPs..the original lead is forgotten...they span over a long period of time with the leads never finding their happy ending...they almost always die at the end of the show...leaving a bad taste in the viewers mouth...

As far as the explicit portrayal of a certain thing on television...here is where viewers discretion is advised...that was just a one off episode...if you see other shows on Indian TV...u will realize that explicit or not...they are crass beyond acceptable and they are like that day after day...we do get normal happy episodes in QH...i can tell u for sure as my mom watches other TV shows...there is not a single day that goes without conspiracy...human relations are treated like a joke...the regressive portrayal knows no limits...with MTV and Channel V serving crass and crude every day, trust me TV is no more censored...you have to exercise your discretion...

4 lions are a production house...even they are not that blind so as to miss the fact that Tanveer is hated and the TRPs are not because of her...but we as audience can only like or dislike the characters and product they give us...we can by no means teach or instruct them how to do their job or name call them..which we may not do but other people do..u honestly tell me...this Tanveer drama has been going on since so long...most of us have screamed our guts out...but still the TRPs remain stable...that means we are still watching...maybe because we are so attached to QH...but if we are attached we need to trust the people who made it in the first place..

QH means more to them than it can ever mean to u and me...because they have made it with so much heart and hardwork, name calling will hurt them obviously..they are humans too...Forum 32 is as much a platform for them to voice their thoughts...

We may agree or disagree with them...and the same way they can disagree with our demands too...but then they have a vision for their product and it needs to play out the way they have imagined..because if we could be them, aaj QH hum bana rahe hote, woh nahi...

yes. I agree. Maybe I didn't watch many soaps that that's the reason my lack of tolerance is limited.
But I feel they always justify themselves through articles and thus trend is ON since their last show where they openly declared that the show has ran it's course and they are out of ideas. They even asked for ideas from the viewers which is same in this article also somehow. QH is a new show and its them who should know how to bring positivity back not us.
As for ideas FB an IF is full of ideas about ending of this track for long. I personally feel this track is dragged too much and some positivity is long due.
No show runs without twists but little bit of resting period is necessary too.
They said Drama, Action, intensity, Laughter, yawn but to be honest this track is stuck with Drama and intensity for long . Laughter break is looong due.
Just my opinion
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: hsvs

WORD! I got irritated when I read the article by F32. It seemed to me that they are not willing to take any feedback - other than gushing, positive ones.


Many of us (delena90, bheegi and me ) have posted polite feedback - basically questioning the entire Tanveer track. The character imo is very poorly written and there is no justification for her evil actions. The feedback has been very polite but as expected has not been acknowledged. The only type of feedback they seem to acknowledge is either positive ones or that deal with Karan's looks!

Also, imo, since they are in a public profession, they should brace themselves for criticism! Bouquets and brickbats are a part of their working life. We work too - do we get praised in the office for whatever we do! No!

Most of the negative feedback I have seen (on F32 FB page and even here) have been targeted against the characters (Tanveer and ofcourse brainless Asad). This is because of the illogical track that the writers have conceived... Not one post, have I seen where Amrapali has been bashed. No one has claimed that KSG or AG cant act.

This is what bugged me in the article - If they are asking us to differentiate between character and actor, they need to be able to do the same.

While I do condemn any comments by fans about the actor or actress (name -calling, or any reference to their personal lives), I think as an audience we are justified in criticising a character. Calling Asad brainless isnt an abuse! Heck, as you pointed out even KSG makes fun at his character!

Regarding the entire Tanveer track, there has been no backstory, no reason given as to why she is so evil. Delena90 had some months back posted a long post on the FB page asking for some justification and had suggested very politely some things - her feedback, as expected, was not even acknowledged.


Yeah I know. They ask for ideas but when people actually send ideas they choose to ignore
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I was hoping someone addresses this article from the other point of view, and I'm glad you did (: I agree, there is a big difference between name-calling a character and an actor. I personally don't visit Forum32 that much, and I most certainly have not read the comments posted there by people.

If people have been name-calling the actors, be it Amrapalli, Alka or even KSG and Surbhi, then yes they are wrong in doing that. But what I have gathered from reading the article is that they seem to want the readers to stop name-calling their characters.

If Tanveer can try snap a live chicken's neck without flinching and Razia can drag around an old lady and call her names with no remorse, then yes I think it is justified for people to call Tanveer and Razia names. Not Amrapalli and Alka mind you, just their characters.

At the same time, remember Tanveer's stupid story about how her husband's men got scared of Asad when he arrived at the warehouse so that's why they ran away, but still hit him on the head and made him unconscious before leaving. So if he was unconscious then why did they still run away? Yet, Asad bought that ridiculous story. So yes, Asad was behaving brainlessly at that point. I repeat, Asad, not KSG, was behaving brainlessly, so there's no harm in pointing that out.

If Forum32 didn't want to entertain criticism, then they shouldn't call themselves a forum. They should call it a fan club, where you're only allowed to gush about the show.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: delena90

Hey Trina, I completely agree with you.

I am really tired (just got home from work) so I am gonna post what I posted on F32:

I guess the question is do you listen, see or even acknowledge polite feedback. I may come across as very blunt and hell maybe even a little rude in this post but you and 4lions need to hear this. Many of us have left you very polite feedback on how the how has been but you ignore us. You would rather respond and pass on information related to Karan's stubble or lack thereof! Let me be clear, I don't watch this show for Karan, surbhi or any of the actors of the show. Heck I don't even watch this for asya. I watch this show because I liked the concept of QH when it first started and it was unique.

You talk of hard work. Don't we all work hard -whether it be school or in the corporate world? Don't we all get criticized when our work is not up to the mark?? Yes our criticism comes from a small number of people but this is the profession the actors have chosen. They are going to be criticized by a larger audience. And for further clarification - no one has ever claimed that Karan or any of the actors can't act. In fact despite the dissatisfaction with the storyline people have praised Karan's angst scenes.

I didn't realize that calling a character an ass is termed as abusive. Asad is a character! While you are asking the audience to differentiate between character and actor, I feel compelled to ask you to do the same.

With regards to the tanveer track, people have explained their dissatisfaction towards it many times! Just look at the story you have presented us with - tanveer has no backstory, no justification and she is omniscient and omnipresent. Have the writers even bothered to explain tanveers willingness to throw her friends to the wolves??? Even razia had a backstory - which is what makes her a compelling villain.

The only point I seem to agree with you on in this article is the lack of sensitivity shown by the audience towards the actors and hurling abuses at them while hiding behind a computer screen.

Friendly advise trina ignore the fanatical teenagers that are bound to come on to your post and bash. 😆 They clearly do not appreciate good storytelling/writing/tv shows.

i don't understand why many viewers feel that each and every post that criticizes the characters and show are bashing posts?
Strange?😲
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: goingreen

I was hoping someone addresses this article from the other point of view, and I'm glad you did (: I agree, there is a big difference between name-calling a character and an actor. I personally don't visit Forum32 that much, and I most certainly have not read the comments posted there by people.

If people have been name-calling the actors, be it Amrapalli, Alka or even KSG and Surbhi, then yes they are wrong in doing that. But what I have gathered from reading the article is that they seem to want the readers to stop name-calling their characters.

If Tanveer can try snap a live chicken's neck without flinching and Razia can drag around an old lady and call her names with no remorse, then yes I think it is justified for people to call Tanveer and Razia names. Not Amrapalli and Alka mind you, just their characters.

At the same time, remember Tanveer's stupid story about how her husband's men got scared of Asad when he arrived at the warehouse so that's why they ran away, but still hit him on the head and made him unconscious before leaving. So if he was unconscious then why did they still run away? Yet, Asad bought that ridiculous story. So yes, Asad was behaving brainlessly at that point. I repeat, Asad, not KSG, was behaving brainlessly, so there's no harm in pointing that out.

If Forum32 didn't want to entertain criticism, then they shouldn't call themselves a forum. They should call it a fan club, where you're only allowed to gush about the show.

WORD👏
Soo very true😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: trina2010

yes. I agree. Maybe I didn't watch many soaps that that's the reason my lack of tolerance is limited.

But I feel they always justify themselves through articles and thus trend is ON since their last show where they openly declared that the show has ran it's course and they are out of ideas. They even asked for ideas from the viewers which is same in this article also somehow. QH is a new show and its them who should know how to bring positivity back not us.
As for ideas FB an IF is full of ideas about ending of this track for long. I personally feel this track is dragged too much and some positivity is long due.
No show runs without twists but little bit of resting period is necessary too.
They said Drama, Action, intensity, Laughter, yawn but to be honest this track is stuck with Drama and intensity for long . Laughter break is looong due.
Just my opinion


everybody justifies themselves someway or the other..they do too...if they are asking for ideas...we will always give it to them...to use them or not is a decision that lies solely with them...yes some positivity is due and it will come during this holy month of Ramadan..maybe they planned it all along...maybe they thought of it after seeing the audiences reaction..whatever the case is...keep ur chin up...Tanveer's track will get the proper end it deserves...there were times there was only laughter..sometimes only drama...sometimes only intensity..sometimes all together...I can tell u for sure..in terms of pace. story, acting and the whole jazz...QH is eons ahead of its contemporaries...give it time...this crapfest will end
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Posted: 12 years ago
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firstlyhow does tanveer being evil makes women question themselves?:S
ok its getting really negative and all nd its fine to bash tanveer to some extent but believe it or not i have seen amrapali's bashing!!!!
coming to asad...its ok to criticize the character nd even actor but name calling is really not acceptable IMO...nd asad gets bashed even when it isn't his mistake...its kinda become a habit for people nd karan bashing...Ohhh i have seen many FORUM MEMBERS name calling him...it happened a few days ago only:|
people use their right of freedom of speech very seriously i tell you 🤢

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