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Posted: 12 years ago
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well my mom saw precap that time she was making food...
she same from kitchen after swtiching off her work for 10 mins. and said "ruk ye dekh ke jaati hoon"

she never watch shows leaving her work aside..
my dad said "switch off the tv...they are showing rubbish" but my mom said "this is amazing scene"

and like ur mom my mom isnt grown up outside india...
she is "rajasthani indian royal marwadi" if you know about it...
she wear saries only but she loved the scene 👍🏼
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Butchered her character mercilessly? Like Zoya said, she does wear skirts in the US, but she knows it isn't a s culturally acceptable there in India. Wearing a skirt doesn't butcher her character; it just shows that she's mindful that different clothes should be worn based on one's cultural surroundings.

Moreover, it's a little sad that people get so put off by someone's choice of apparel. It's not as if she wore a miniskirt with a low-cut top. It was a balanced outfit. Conservative does not have to do with what a person wears. It's not the 17th century when women had to be covered up to prevent being morally shamed.

I loved the scene and especially her dialogue :) They gave Zoya's character and American upbringing more dimension.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: aussie.priya

Butchered her character mercilessly? Like Zoya said, she does wear skirts in the US, but she knows it isn't a s culturally acceptable there in India. Wearing a skirt doesn't butcher her character; it just shows that she's mindful that different clothes should be worn based on one's cultural surroundings.


Moreover, it's a little sad that people get so put off by someone's choice of apparel. It's not as if she wore a miniskirt with a low-cut top. It was a balanced outfit. Conservative does not have to do with what a person wears. It's not the 17th century when women had to be covered up to prevent being morally shamed.

I loved the scene and especially her dialogue :) They gave Zoya's character and American upbringing more dimension.


If you argue clothes don't define a person, then a low cut topic should not be called into a question as making this outfit appropriate. And dressing conservatively doesn't require that a person be covered up. Their a conservative lengths for a skirt, even a mini - a mid thigh one would have made more sense, looked presentable and still have worked.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Laila2009


If you argue clothes don't define a person, then a low cut topic should not be called into a question as making this outfit appropriate. And dressing conservatively doesn't require that a person be covered up. Their a conservative lengths for a skirt, even a mini - a mid thigh one would have made more sense, looked presentable and still have worked.


I agree that clothes might cause people to be judged, but they DO NOT define a person. Again, the intent behind wearing the skirt just seemed more like something she was comfortable with. Imagine if people were so quick to object and form decisions based on clothing: quite frankly, though I know this isn't necessarily always true, people could think wearing a salwar suit all the time is limiting and oppressive in India.

Also, as a classical dancer and singer, though I was born and brought in California, I like to believe that India culture is so strong that one harmless skirt doesn't mean anything at all.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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It was such a small scene. I was affected zero percent by it.. Have you seen the stuff they show in movies? Why go to the movies? Switch on MTV...It's like the audience is mostly immune. To the Indian audience... i'd say it's not such a big deal at all.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: aussie.priya


I agree that clothes might cause people to be judged, but they DO NOT define a person. Again, the intent behind wearing the skirt just seemed more like something she was comfortable with. Imagine if people were so quick to object and form decisions based on clothing: quite frankly, though I know this isn't necessarily always true, people could think wearing a salwar suit all the time is limiting and oppressive in India.

Also, as a classical dancer and singer, though I was born and brought in California, I like to believe that India culture is so strong that one harmless skirt doesn't mean anything at all.


I agree that no culture is going to be harmed be it Indian or the Muslim culture, but the point here is does this piece of clothing fit with the character as we have seen her and the answer is no. If so, we would have seen her wear it in the beginning of the show. Second, she's Muslim and typically you do not see even girls in New York dress this way - now you might have the odd one - but this is not the norm. If you want to create a character with whom people can relate, make her what fits the norm. i am not going to bend over to change my brain now that it's been fed this new Zoya, I don't like it. I think it is an insult and very disrespectful to your audience to throw this to them out of nowhere just to make a point - a point that could have been made with a midthigh skirt or even a tennis skirt and it would have made sense.. And Zoya could have gone back into the room - the whole direction was total nonsense and poorly done. Plus if Dilshaad is going to argue that Zoya is fully covered and compare her to the woman who is exposed at the Qu'ran khanni then basically she just looked like a fool.
Edited by Laila2009 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rockerchic

It was such a small scene. I was affected zero percent by it.. Have you seen the stuff they show in movies? Why go to the movies? Switch on MTV...It's like the audience is mostly immune. To the Indian audience... i'd say it's not such a big deal at all.



Lucky you RC - hope one day I can take such an approach to these shows where i stop caring at the garbage thrown at me on these shows.Share your secret. please.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Laila2009


Lucky you RC - hope one day I can take such an approach to these shows where i stop caring at the garbage thrown at me on these shows.Share your secret. please.


Laila you'd fear to know then how ordinary such low skirts are on Indian TV... Just switch on to Channel V..*shudder*

My secret? I'm very used to Gul's Bulls* 😆 Very ironical since this very day two years ago.. I came to know of the phenomenon know Indian TV 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I think a reason why it may have felt out of character was because we never saw Zoya wearing anything else besides her jeans and tops and occasional Indian wear. I remember watching SBS and felt odd seeing her in a skirt mainly cuz it was such a new sight. But if you think about it it is highly possible for her to have worn skirts before. She's from NY, highly liberal, and wears what she wants because she's secure about who she is. Many Muslim girls do wear minis and Zoya is one of them. Point is that it's not unbelievable because it CAN be justified to being in character if you consider the life she may have had in NY, one which we simply don't know about.
I wish the writers had Zoya mention something about what kind of clothes she used to wear in an earlier scene/episode or something... maybe it wouldnt have felt like such a big shock. 😕

Side note - her long sleeves are there not because she's conservative or moderate but because her arm is burnt. I could see Zoya rocking half sleeved, sleeveless tops, tanks and camis if not for this tragedy.

I hope I made sense. Oh and not all moms are disapproving. Mine loved the scene, and in fact started playfully teasing me about the times i argue with her about similar things. 😊
Edited by JPRules - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Guys, I did not like the miniskirt at all

But my Mom, she was " WOW"

I said "MOM"

she said "WOW"

If you turn MOM you get WOW, just discovered now!

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