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Originally posted by: Rupunzale
I tried really hard to refrain myself from making a topic on anything about this much hyped skirt fiasco...but alas I couldn't...I am appalled and disturbed to see insults thrown at each-other by Muslims and non- Muslims.
People here very openly has condemned wearing a mini skirt in an Islamic society ? So, where was this hue and cry when a woman was slapped by an orthodox Muslim man in the very Islamic society?
So, am I to believe that in Islam, attire of a woman is given more importance than treatment towards woman? So, a man can slap a woman...verbally and physically abuse her but a woman doesn't have the liberty to wear what she wants?
Also, in all this ppl who are blaming Zoya for wearing a mini skirt is conveniently forgetting that she was raised as an American and not an Indian. Zoya is an American and that too a progressive, educated New Yorker who grew up in a progressive society and not in an orthodox Muslim society.
Shouldn't treatment towards women be given more importance than clothes in any given society or culture?
Originally posted by: butterfly15..
You are asking for logic? Seriously you're asking for too much on this forum.😆
So many things that Asad does wrong are accepted, but when Zoya does one thing that is seen as wrong/is wrong, it's like world war billion has started.
Most of the things dicussed on this forum seem to have nothing to do with respect, religion, standards, morals, values, etc. It seems more like culture to me, whatever a man does goes, whatever a woman does is wrong.
I saw some people saying how wrong the slap was, but not to the extent they are saying the skirt is wrong. I'm a Muslim and I'd like to point out that in Islam no-one is allowed to hit anyone. And forget religion, isn't it a basic concept of humanity that you shouldn't hit others? Where were all these people who care about respect, when Asad slapped/insulted/accused/verbally abused Zoya? Why didn't they make such a hue and cry then? Why didn't they care about her respect then?
Not many cared.. Why? Because they love Asad? KSG? Men have more right than women? Women don't deserve respect? Or because romance and the love story can make you ignore everything else? I think there are many who fall into a lot of these categories unfortunately. It's sad but it's true, but not many are willing to admit it.
Originally posted by: ..Kirann..
I'll have to disagree here. I had a problem with slap and I have a problem with Zoya's mini-skirt. Yes she can wear whatever she wants but I would've preferred if skirt was a bit longer. I have a problem with length of the skirt. You are right. Asad has no right on what she should wear and what she should not. She doesn't have to abide by his rules but the thing is she's living in HIS house. But anyways, that's another matter which I don't wanna get into. Living in Canada, I still haven't seen anyone calling this kinda short dress appropriate. Sure girls probably wear it but it's not appropriate. Even in our school, we are not allowed to wear such skirts simply because they are too short and inappropriate. And if they try to show tomorrow, that her wearing a skirt is okay because "tehzeeb" is not in clothes but heart, I'm sorry but I won't buy it. In my opinion, adult women should not wear such short skirts. It's not appropriate. If they wanted to show this 'tehzeeb' drama, then they could have shown it by making her a wear a bit longer skirt maybe till mid-thighs? I would have been completely okay with that.
Coming to slap, that was the time I became active in the forum and I saw most of the people not agreeing with slap. Sure some people must have justified where Asad was coming from but most of the people said slap was going too far. I was strongly against the slap and I still am. Over the time, I kinda came to terms with it and understood where he was coming from but I still can't digest that slap.I, personally, don't like pulling religion card simply because it can hurt many. & I agree people should stop bringing religion in when convenient.P.S.: I saw SBB segments, I was happy to see that Zoe didn't go in front of Maulvi sahib in that skirt and I hope when Asad yells she tells him the reason why she wore it and I hope Gul doesn't try to tell us it's completely okay to wear that mini-skirt. That's something I'll have a problem with. Other than that I'm glad Zoe will answer back and remind him when was the last time, he did something she liked. It's high time he realizes everything doesn't run his way. Baki, I'm loving Asad's character growth:)
thanks Pri ! I am really worried of the fact the way everyone is bringing religion into it...the point here is about a woman's right and about the decisions she makes...I am not going to comment on the skirt or the length of the skirt...honestly it's an individual preference and as an adultOriginally posted by: delena90
Bravo! I am sick of the mentality that some people exhibit in the name of religion. If a skirt is a no no so is living with a man who is not your relative, listening to music, watching tv and reading books. Are they saying people who do these things are not true Muslims? You can't pick and choose religion to suit your convenience.
Like you I have to question the thinking of these people - hitting a woman, degrading her, hugging your best friend so openly (read Asad and tanveer) is all ok but god forbid Zoya wears a mini skirt.
exactly...I just wanted to emphasize that she grew up in NewYork to give an example that it actually depends on the society she grew up in...saying that there are numerous exceptions of orthodox families in western world too.Originally posted by: ..SheWolf..
WORD.
And its not just about being a from New York or being raised as an American, I personally have so many Muslim friends here in India who wear shorts, sleeveless dresses and what not. So I dont get why such a fuss is made about her clothes.And about the question you raised. I believe no matter which religion you belong to it does not give you a right to judge or treat a person wrongly based on the clothes they wear or anything. Be the person a man or woman.And honestly I lost hope with the people on this forum when so many of them justified the slap. It was wrong it, it still is wrong and Zoya wearing a skirt its her life her choice.