Foreshadowing/Symbolism in QH- IMP link pg 35

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adeeti10

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Posted: 12 years ago

#131

Originally posted by: chicksoup
19 Feb:

Did they keep showing the Gudiya in the background when Raziya was killing the woman(who is looking more n'more likely to be Zoya's mom)?😉

1. It was a clue that the doll will speak the truth - as in the doll with the chip, simply .

(But the doll with the chip was lying outside, recording maamujaan's and Raziya's conversation...before she called up Rashid. )

OR

2. Raziya was talking about something the woman had tried to take away, which rightfully belonged to her..and the doll symbolises the child who was being wronged along with the mother?

Dee, you talked about the doll in the promo, being Zoya...YOU COULD BE BANG ON RIGHT!👏

The doll was in the center of the promo...Zoya may not even realise for a long time that the doll symbolises her...

I don't think Maamujaan is Zoya's father...he wouldn't take his ex- wife being killed so casually.😲

Raziya once boasted to Badi Bi that none of her plans had failed for the past 20 years.

That means, she did something to make Zoya's dad leave her mom? And three years later finished off the mom...

OK there is a big loophole here. 🤓The dead body was never discovered. No one even knows this person was killed in the gudiya factory...what is the saazish the newspapers are talking about when Rashid is still trying to hide the corpse?(I can still take it as poetic license...kind of a forewarning the creator is giving the audience)

But how come Zoya has nightmares of the fire when her mom's body is still undiscovered?

Thanks chicksoup! Just watched today's episode.

Razia tells the lady that she dared to take something from her... And that cannot happen. What was this something? Or was it someone?

Perhaps, this woman was not married to Mamu jaan but Zoya was their illegitimate child and she was going to tell him the truth? That might have prompted Razia to defend her turf and she decides to kill the day in question... Zoya's mom.

The other number thing that doesn't add up...read on the forum that Zoya's mother died 20 years ago or so she believes and this fire occurred 17 years ago. Loophole or intentional?

And yes, the newspaper thing doesn't add up either.

Also why wait 17 years to have the place cleaned and the proof removed?

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bheegi

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Posted: 12 years ago

#132

I agree...after watching last 2 episodes, I have more questions than answers.

How can the proof lie untouched for 17 years? If there was a fire 17 years ago, why wasn't it investigated? Why is the body still lying there?

Adeeti, I think the doll metaphor is probably accurate as it's Zoya, whose 'memory chip' will be activated when she comes face to face with razia/Mamujaan

Even I have felt that Zoya is maamu's illegitimate daughter but you are right, he didn't seem disturbed about killing Zoya's mom. Perhaps, Zoya's dad and maamu were business partners.

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adeeti10

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Posted: 12 years ago

#133

Originally posted by: bheegi
I agree...after watching last 2 episodes, I have more questions than answers.

How can the proof lie untouched for 17 years? If there was a fire 17 years ago, why wasn't it investigated? Why is the body still lying there?

Adeeti, I think the doll metaphor is probably accurate as it's Zoya, whose 'memory chip' will be activated when she comes face to face with razia/Mamujaan

Even I have felt that Zoya is maamu's illegitimate daughter but you are right, he didn't seem disturbed about killing Zoya's mom. Perhaps, Zoya's dad and maamu were business partners.

Same here!

Yup, the doll metaphor makes sense. 😃

If Zoya's dad and maamu were partners, what did Zoya's mom take or try to take from Razia? To me it seems like Razia's was a crime of passion.

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SaRun and AsYa©

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Posted: 12 years ago

#134

👍🏼Wow true fans year and here I thought I payed attention for all the five repeat times I watched the show, but observations were no where close now I have to rematch the first three epis with all these things in mind!! Haha...standing ovation to the true fans!!!!🤗

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chicksoup

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Posted: 12 years ago

#135

Originally posted by: adeeti10

Same here!

Yup, the doll metaphor makes sense. 😃

If Zoya's dad and maamu were partners, what did Zoya's mom take or try to take from Razia? To me it seems like Razia's was a crime of passion.

17 years untouched...the doll factory is HEAVILY GUARDED according to Zoya's observation.

So, did they just bury the body casually and now wants to clean it up without a trace? Also, Rashid might not have wanted to return to that scene at all...now he is forced to.

Actually speaking, Raziya should be the one who wants the body to be disposed off properly- considering her crime is the one that is going to come out in the fore when the body is examined. But I guess, she has planned it so that the deed gets done and Rashid gets framed in his son's eyes for once and all. It is a damn good plan!

How come there was no police investigation on a missing person?

The fire 17 years ago...the newspaper must have suspected foul play on the origin of the fire...but it was quietened down. Raziya would have seen to that. It def does not make sense that she did not want to clear up the inctriminating evidence, but then, she might have wanted to keep the evidence fresh to blackmail Rashid. ..which she succeeded in doing too.

The way things have turned out right now, the doll factory has taken the suspicion further away from her and planted it more firmly on Rashid. So, it looks like she made a right decision ...of retaining the evidence and guarding it.

(Since we asked the Qs, we'll have to answer them too, I guess.😉)

The promo does not show Zoya's mom. She had that nightmare about the fire, so the promo should have had something symbolic of her mom too.

Either she has not made the connection yet,

the connection to her yaadein is not limited to the doll factory fire. Was there another fire which killed her mom?

They simply did not want to show the viewers that connection.

Raziya has told us quite plainly...the raaz will not be disclosed anytime soon. Now is the time for her to continue playing her games!😆

Zoya being an illegitimate child...I am not sure.

She has said that she wants to ask her Abbu why he left her and her mother...Sounds like a family had broken up...or little Zoya had no clue that she was an illegitimate child.😕

They will make us go round and round for sometime...I wonder if they have the answers at all...😆

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Mariama

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Posted: 12 years ago

#136

Originally posted by: EmraanFanatic
Wow amazing analysis!

I absolutely love your signature picture with Asad and Zoya!!☺️❤️

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SunshineGirl6

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Posted: 12 years ago

#137

OMG fantabulous post <33

Amazingg !!

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bheegi

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Posted: 12 years ago

#138

Originally posted by: adeeti10

Same here!

Yup, the doll metaphor makes sense. 😃

If Zoya's dad and maamu were partners, what did Zoya's mom take or try to take from Razia? To me it seems like Razia's was a crime of passion.

Or zoya's mom was one of the wives. They were married for 3 years ( hence the 20 years ago) but zoya's father had married her for money (she was probably rich) . Zoya's father (assuming its siddiqui) was involved with Razia who came up with the plan of disposing off mother and daughter 17 years ago so siddiqui would inherit all the property. Just like Razia has no qualms about calling shireen the rightful wife, she claimed herself to be the haqdaar?

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bheegi

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Posted: 12 years ago

#139

@ chicksoup: I think when rashid digs out the skeleton, there might be some nishaani that triggers zoya's memory...maybe a piece of jewelry? So, I do think the doll factory is connected to zoya. Like Adeeti, I feel zoya is the doll with the 'memory chip' now. Lets wait and see

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chicksoup

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Posted: 12 years ago

#140

Originally posted by: bheegi

Or zoya's mom was one of the wives. They were married for 3 years ( hence the 20 years ago) but zoya's father had married her for money (she was probably rich) . Zoya's father (assuming its siddiqui) was involved with Razia who came up with the plan of disposing off mother and daughter 17 years ago so siddiqui would inherit all the property. Just like Razia has no qualms about calling shireen the rightful wife, she claimed herself to be the haqdaar?

Maamoojan Siddiqui is Zoya's dad...hmmm... it is not just that I don't like the idea😭, it seems to be too predictably easy by 4L standards.

I am wary of their googlies.

See how they changed the game after that exciting promo?

Everyone thought they were rushing it, but they started a new loop within the premise of the promo 👏 None of us could predict things would come to this, even when some of us thought the raaz will not be laid bare so soon...

Basically, TOO EARLY TO SAY, from me...😊 BUT, POSSIBLE.

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