Foreshadowing/Symbolism in QH- IMP link pg 35 - Page 13

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: adeeti10


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Yup, the doll falls aside... Think Asad might find it?

Also another thought about the doll: Dilshad says "aur us saazish ki gawah thi woh gudiya"... I have a feeling this doll they're talking about could be either najma or Zoya.

Someone said Zoya has suppressed memories about her past which resurface... So the doll could be Zoya?

Or like you said, it could be najma. And she will be instrumental in Zoya's discovery?


Great point again. This sounds like an English literature class😆 but I am impressed with all the observations. Zoya could be the symbolic 'gudiya' here.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: chicksoup



This is what I feel could have happened.🤓

Najma was one year old when the incident happened. She was waiting outside on the car when Rashid went into the factory, I think.

The Gudiya was her B'day present from Rashid. And the Gudiya was gavaah to the saazish. It happened to be there where Raziya was talking about the plan- either before or after the murder.

The doll could have recorded it before it was given to Najma, OR

Najma was sitting in the car playing with the doll , when Raziya blabbered, thinking the child would never understand... only, the doll recorded it. 😉



'Think Asad might find it?':

6 Packs se itni ummeed nahi hai mujhe.

They are a team- she plans and he executes...whether he likes it or not.😆


Waise aapke 6 packs dhishum dhishum aur gussa zyaada karte hain. The brains are usually zoya's
Yeah, I bet the doll with najma recorded the voices because all other dolls were burnt. Zoya was little girl too at that time...she might have heard some voices that are ' recorded' in her brain. That's why adeeti said, she could be the 'doll' with suppressed memories.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: bheegi


Waise aapke 6 packs dhishum dhishum aur gussa zyaada karte hain. The brains are usually zoya's
Yeah, I bet the doll with najma recorded the voices because all other dolls were burnt. Zoya was little girl too at that time...she might have heard some voices that are ' recorded' in her brain. That's why adeeti said, she could be the 'doll' with suppressed memories.


Yup, makes sense when you think about it... And well put! It is turning out to be quite the literature class. 😊 And what fun!


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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: adeeti10


Yup, makes sense when you think about it... And well put! It is turning out to be quite the literature class. 😊 And what fun!



Yes, indeed. What fun! 😊

The brains are usually zoya's ...

KOi shaq? Look at the way he was standing there yesterday, refusing to use his brains😡...Zoya has to put two and two together👍🏼...Rashid did NOTHING with the Gudiya factory...that must mean he is innocent. THIS GIRL IS SMART! 👏

But they make a great team...😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
@ chicksoup...the women have the brains in this serial. Men just clench their jaws/fists (Asad), appear helpless (Rashid) or are puppets (maamujaan) or clueless (Ayaan)

@ Adeeti...I just thought about your doll symbolism. They no longer need the discarded doll as they have the real doll aka Zoya :)
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: bheegi

@ chicksoup...the women have the brains in this serial. Men just clench their jaws/fists (Asad), appear helpless (Rashid) or are puppets (maamujaan) or clueless (Ayaan)


@ Adeeti...I just thought about your doll symbolism. They no longer need the discarded doll as they have the real doll aka Zoya :)


Sangeeta,
I love this about QH.
The women are really smart. Problem is ,they can be misunderstood often...as helpless...but in truth, it is all about women for me. These characters have been written beautifully.👏



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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: chicksoup


Sangeeta,
I love this about QH.
The women are really smart. Problem is ,they can be misunderstood often...as helpless...but in truth, it is all about women for me. These characters have been written beautifully.👏




I think that's what Gul is trying to do here...esp in the Muslim culture where women don't always have a say
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Did they keep showing the Gudiya in the background when Raziya was killing the woman(who is looking more n'more likely to be Zoya's mom)?😉

1. It was a clue that the doll will speak the truth - as in the doll with the chip, simply .

(But the doll with the chip was lying outside, recording maamujaan's and Raziya's conversation...before she called up Rashid. )

OR

2. Raziya was talking about something the woman had tried to take away, which rightfully belonged to her..and the doll symbolises the child who was being wronged along with the mother?



Dee, you talked about the doll in the promo, being Zoya...YOU COULD BE BANG ON RIGHT!👏

The doll was in the center of the promo...Zoya may not even realise for a long time that the doll symbolises her...

I don't think Maamujaan is Zoya's father...he wouldn't take his ex- wife being killed so casually.😲

Raziya once boasted to Badi Bi that none of her plans had failed for the past 20 years.

That means, she did something to make Zoya's dad leave her mom? And three years later finished off the mom...

OK there is a big loophole here. 🤓The dead body was never discovered. No one even knows this person was killed in the gudiya factory...what is the saazish the newspapers are talking about when Rashid is still trying to hide the corpse?(I can still take it as poetic license...kind of a forewarning the creator is giving the audience)


But how come Zoya has nightmares of the fire when her mom's body is still undiscovered?
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Posted: 12 years ago
Good discussion guys. After the current plot settles down (which means Raziya manages to make Asad think Rashid is a murderer) Zoya will come across the doll, me thinks. After all, she has a habit of snooping around and wandering at night...Asad doesn't have the kind of eyesight or habits that will land him near flower pots. 😆 And the night Zoya finds it, I suspect she will stay up putting her engineering skills to use to get the doll to speak up. She will then know the details that no one else knows. What happens from then on..I don't know. She might try talking to Asad or she might directly confront Rashid or Razia. I think Razia will then be on a mission to get Zoya killed or separated from Asad...coz when working as a team, they seem to have the power to expose her.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: princessjojo

Good discussion guys. After the current plot settles down (which means Raziya manages to make Asad think Rashid is a murderer) Zoya will come across the doll, me thinks. After all, she has a habit of snooping around and wandering at night...Asad doesn't have the kind of eyesight or habits that will land him near flower pots. 😆 And the night Zoya finds it, I suspect she will stay up putting her engineering skills to use to get the doll to speak up. She will then know the details that no one else knows. What happens from then on..I don't know. She might try talking to Asad or she might directly confront Rashid or Razia. I think Razia will then be on a mission to get Zoya killed or separated from Asad...coz when working as a team, they seem to have the power to expose her.



I am not sure when the truth will be revealed to Zoya...right now, I think they are going to deal with Asad's hatred for his dad, which has only multiplied...
yeah, but the doll is not going to lie there in the garden forever, either... so UNPREDICTABLE👏

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