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Posted: 12 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: Nishitarao

Hey RC!!


I was not happy that he slapped her but I was not mad either given the circumstances.

For me men and women are equal. I don't believe women are superior to men and I definitely dont believe men are superior to women.

If Zoya had slapped Asad under the same or less intense circumstance, I am sure majority would have been ok with it.
So why the double standards?

Sometimes mental abuse is worse than a physical one, if you are ok with all his harsh words and judgemental attitude, you should probably consider to let this one pass keeping the circumstances in mind

Oh and This applies to a lot of forum members.
If someone is trying explain their pov, don't go all judgy on them, hear them out, and if you don't agree with them, express it politely.
There is no rule that everybody should think alike.

All opinions are welcome. RC is openminded if nothing else.


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Posted: 12 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: Nishitarao

Hey RC!!


I was not happy that he slapped her but I was not mad either given the circumstances.

For me men and women are equal. I don't believe women are superior to men and I definitely dont believe men are superior to women.

If Zoya had slapped Asad under the same or less intense circumstance, I am sure majority would have been ok with it.
So why the double standards?

Sometimes mental abuse is worse than a physical one, if you are ok with all his harsh words and judgemental attitude, you should probably consider to let this one pass keeping the circumstances in mind

Oh and This applies to a lot of forum members.
If someone is trying explain their pov, don't go all judgy on them, hear them out, and if you don't agree with them, express it politely.
There is no rule that everybody should think alike.


I for one am not okay with his harsh words either because your right mental abuse and physical abuse sail in the same boat, and neither are right. And this isn't really about a man hitting a women or a women hitting a man, it about violence in general and how people are justifying it and glorifying it, and yes people have the right to give their views but we also have the right to say why their views are wrong.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: iqbal-pallavi


I for one am not okay with his harsh words either because your right mental abuse and physical abuse sail in the same boat, and neither are right. And this isn't really about a man hitting a women or a women hitting a man, it about violence in general and how people are justifying it and glorifying it, and yes people have the right to give their views but we also have the right to say why their views are wrong.


Couldn't agree more.

The main "justifications" of this violence have been:

1. Double Standards: What if it were Zoya?
Hypotheticals are rather besides the point - Zoya did not slap Asad...If she had, we would oppose that too. We cannot control whether or not you believe us. We've been saying repeatedly that violence is not justifiable under any circumstances, except self-defense.
2. It's natural, he's upset because of his mother.

Yes, agreed he's upset. But the mark of a civilized human being is to control his/her baser instincts. This is what is supposed to distinguish us from animals. the ability to make ethical decisions, to tell right from wrong. To not abuse those who are weaker than us.

On both these counts, there is no justification.

Having said this, people are of course entitled to their opinions. That's what makes for civilized discussion!

Edited by narangi314 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#94

Originally posted by: Rockerchic

Okay suppose there is proper redemption (oh gosh how much i hate that word) and Asad is truly really sorry and Zoya after hearing the apology walks out on him then and only then will i be able to watch QH without a dark cloud hovering above my head.


on second thoughts not even then.

I think He has to loose Zoya to pay for his misdeed. Yes I want Asya together but not before Asad falls on her feet and grovel. Like many others I don't support this slap but as I said I will hold my judgement till I get to watch Asads redemption in a very hard way.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: iqbal-pallavi


I for one am not okay with his harsh words either because your right mental abuse and physical abuse sail in the same boat, and neither are right. And this isn't really about a man hitting a women or a women hitting a man, it about violence in general and how people are justifying it and glorifying it, and yes people have the right to give their views but we also have the right to say why their views are wrong.


I agree justifying or glorifying violence is wrong and that should apply if a woman were hitting a man right? How many people wanted Zoya to slap Asad when he was saying harsh words about her parents? (And how many here do you think would approve of it?) Would that not be justification of violence? Or is it considered to be violent only if a man hits a women.

Frankly, I think the forum is over-reacting a bit.

I am not a violent person, but if my mom's life was put in danger because of the stupidity of a man/or a woman, I don't know what I would do..
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Posted: 12 years ago
#96
I won't say I'm surprised that such a thing happened. In fact, I was counting the days till something like this happened. This PH's treatment of female characters has never been very laudatory. God knows what else we'll have to see. I don't like comparing, but it was the same way with Khushi in IPK; I never felt she got the least bit of what she deserved even with the "happily ever after."
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Posted: 12 years ago
#97
Why do I feel this slap was shown because the PH wants us to accept Zoyas pairing with Ayaan for now atleast. See this SLAP made us think Asad does not deserve Zoya anymore. Zoya needs a man who under no circumstances woukd behave the way Asad did to her from the begining and specially today. We would want Zoya to get rid of this dark man and move ahead with someone who would value her for what she is.
I think Ayaan Zoya chapter is about to start very soon. Asad might or might not be the prime focus of her life after this disaster. This Slap made the basis of that new chapter of her life.atleast for now.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#98
Hitting someone just because the person is in extreme rage or pain or even if slapping someone for their own good is NOT right. I mean what the hell..I just can't believe it. Ya maybe slapping is considered okay in our society, but I am personally against it, VIOLENCE is never right. I don't know how many debates I have gotten into about this topic with my family. I mean wow, really??? I have always thought all that slapping shown in Indian TV (even slaps to the villains) were too much and here a hero, the character who is supposed to be good and humble is shown slapping the heroine.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#99
he slapped her!slapped a women!😕well!his acting was brilliant!but but but,she shouldnt have done this!i thought he respected womens but!ayan is better in this that atleast he havnt slapped any women!but i love asad ahmed khan what could i dooo😆more then every characters in qh!
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Nishitarao


I agree justifying or glorifying violence is wrong and that should apply if a woman were hitting a man right? How many people wanted Zoya to slap Asad when he was saying harsh words about her parents? (And how many here do you think would approve of it?) Would that not be justification of violence? Or is it considered to be violent only if a man hits a women.

Frankly, I think the forum is over-reacting a bit.

I am not a violent person, but if my mom's life was put in danger because of the stupidity of a man/or a woman, I don't know what I would do..


If Zoya was the one to hit Asad, I personally would say the same thing as I'm saying right now, to me it doesn't make a difference who's doing the abusing, what affects me is the fact that violence is happening.

And you might think we are over-reacting and maybe we are but when you hear stuff like 'she deserved it' and 'he was justified' it's hard not to react, because the only thing going through my head right now is how many people out there have been abused and how many people actually tried to justify that abusing and it angers me and it's disgusts me, and I know this is a show, but a TV is a great medium to get words across - and what word are they getting across? that violence is right.

If I was put in that kind of situation, I know for a fact that I would do what my parents taught me to do - walk away and calm down, every one has the sense of right or wrong, even in the most troubling moments that sense is working, it's up to you to make the right choice.

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