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Posted: 12 years ago
#41

Well said Asma...👍🏼

Everyone is entitled to their opinion...and i personally don't want Ayaan and Zoya to happen...but if it does...so what.
It's a drama...something or the other has to happen. I've not been disappointed by Gul Khan yet...so I'll just wait and see what she and her PH comes up with rather than jump to conclusions or worrying about the what ifs.
Even the most awkward situations...if handled tastefullly...can actually surprise the viewer and work out in the end.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#42
ayaan falling in love tak theek hai
otherwise he idea of one soul only for the other will be completely lost..
if it is done zabardasti etc.. and no 'actual' relationship then it will be okay..that's why it was ok to an extent in dmg
In fact that is what arman asks her..'if urs is a real marriage.. how come ur husband has not even come close to u in all these months'
In geet..one brother had married and wronged her...then geet and maan had no idea of the relationship and the two brothers had a strained relationship anyway..
for me personally it will be too blechh...
reg draupadi- that's why that's not an eternal love story...I say this despite me believing mahabharata is one of the best depictions of mankind's trials and tribulations ever
true epic lovestories mein aisa nahi honi chahiye..
if it is zabardasti or majbooran.. that is one thing.. otherwise...' she was with me , but ye loh u really love each other' I will step out..and we can all still be happy happy' is too yewww
my long winded two cents
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Posted: 12 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: crazy4KASH_AR


As far as I remember I've replied to a few posts of yours in a very calm and cool manner encouraging you to come up with nicer ideas.Why did you feel that my post is directed towards you?

I've been noting that every time a newbie comes here,he/she has queries regarding the synopsis.First of all let me make this very clear to you that my post is not at all directed at you.I really like what you write.I may disagree at times but it's a real fun to read your creative imaginations.

I would not deny in saying that your post sounds a bit offensive.

When did I force you or anyone to accept my point of view?I just shared my feelings just like you.We all have full right to express our feelings on this forum and if we don't agree to certain things we can ofcourse debate in a healthy manner.Constructive criticism is most welcome but bashing should be avoided.

I'm happy to know that you are still not able to see Ayaan and Zoya's relation in a different light and you have full right to disagree wit me.We can surely have a discussion on this.

What moral is going wrong here my dear?I simply don't understand this psychology.
The fact of brother-in-law marrying his sister-in-law has been evident in many cases in real life as well my dear.My mom's classmate became a widow and later her family got her brother-in-law married to her.So this is something which is not just fiction.It happens in real life too.I'm sure that all of us are going to stick with the show till it lasts because KSG's charm overpowers all the loopholes in the storyline.If we can tolerate all the illogical humours of DMG then I'm sure most of us can handle Ayaan and Zoya's marriage as well.
Even the Hindu literature has mentioned about Draupadi being the wife of five pandavas and she had a son from each one of them.In Islam and other religions also,such marriages are legally and socially acceptable.So why do we have so many questions here?

By saying that if Asad doesnot have any problems,why should we be so much concerned,all I wished to state was that love is above everything.All the societal constraints and different morals of different people go to hell when two people love each other insanely.They just think about being together till forever no matter what the circumstances are.The magic of Asad and Zoya is never going to end and as they say Distance makes the heart grow fonder.It might be possible that when Zoe marries Ayaan and goes away from Asad,the realization about his true feelings for Zoya may dawn upon Asad.You never know what motives CVs have behind this marriage.If they have planned this wedding,it must be definitely important for the show and it's strong and gripping storyline.

Wouldn't it be interesting to see Zoya craving for Asad after marrying Ayaan that would eventually lead to her divorce.It will be a high point in the serial when we see that Ayaan comes to know about his bhaijaan's love.That will be his examination and we'll get to see if he can sacrifice his feelings for his bhaijaan or not.The makers know what is the best for the audience most of the times.If a track is not acceptable to the audience,the necessary changes are always incorporated.
All I wanted to say was that there is no point in brainstorming soo much and getting worried about the future track.We can surely protest and mail the CVs about her discontentment once we know that this track is bound to happen.We all know that the stories in tv serials depends upon the trp and is highly unpredictable.What has been decided in the beginning may not be followed later.So why to worry sooo much?
It's my sincere request you to kindly calm down and think about what I said in a peaceful manner.I have no intentions to offend or hurt you.I hope that you may try to respect and understand my point of view as much as I do for yours.
Take care!


Yes, your post is directed at me as I am one of the few people here who will not accept this concept of one brother marrying a woman, sleeping with her and then another brother marrying and then sleeping with her.

I am one of the many people who find the whole concept abhorrent and stale. It lacks creativity and is complete and utter nonsense. Which man in his right mind marries the woman whom is brother has married and slept with? If it happens or has happened in any show, it is AFTER one sibling has died and often as a result of pressure from the family. It does not work; couples have to force it to work. It is an ancient practice done to secure the wealth and the ownership of a woman, especially if she has children, within the existing family. It was also done to provide the woman with financial support if her husband should die.

However, in this day and age, which woman would even be comfortable with the idea? Just because you have seen on example or there is something in one's faith (and btw this woman was a virgin each time she married one of the five brothers I hear), suddenly the whole idea is acceptable to you and therefore everyone else must follow? That is how I read your post. You should re-read your post actually. You did in essence question people who didn't want to accept this relationship and even hinted at their intolerance of the idea.

Just as much you as you see nothing wrong or awkward about Zoya sleeping with Ayaan and then with Asad, I think it is just beyond me, and a complete mockery of the concept of marriage and relationships between these two brothers. Here we have them knowingly sharing a woman? That's just revolting. I have NEVER seen this in any Muslim family to date. Even when one brother dies, the woman doesn't up and marry her brother-in-law.
I find the whole idea completely disgusting and for me, no Asad Zoya magic will make it work. For me these two die once she consummates her marriage with Ayaan - which btw, is very likely going to happen from what I know of 4Lions work.

O btw, I am very calm. You have no idea of my emotional state when I write, so please, do not pretend that you do. 😉 I will enjoy the show until this storyline happens. After that I will be off - much to the delight of some people here.


Edited by Laila2009 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: shree99

ayaan falling in love tak theek hai
otherwise he idea of one soul only for the other will be completely lost..
if it is done zabardasti etc.. and no 'actual' relationship then it will be okay..that's why it was ok to an extent in dmg
In fact that is what arman asks her..'if urs is a real marriage.. how come ur husband has not even come close to u in all these months'
In geet..one brother had married and wronged her...then geet and maan had no idea of the relationship and the two brothers had a strained relationship anyway..
for me personally it will be too blechh...

reg draupadi- that's why that's not an eternal love story...I say this despite me believing mahabharata is one of the best depictions of mankind's trials and tribulations ever
true epic lovestories mein aisa nahi honi chahiye..
if it is zabardasti or majbooran.. that is one thing.. otherwise...' she was with me , but ye loh u really love each other' I will step out..and we can all still be happy happy' is too yewww
my long winded two cents


And that is why 4Lions got away with it in this show; even the lead character was broken and devastated once she found out.

And yes, I would find it too blechh
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Posted: 12 years ago
#45
i dont want ayaan-zoya jodi just becoz i personally felt dat zoya wil luk older dan ayaan n ayaan wil b perfect with humeira..i dont think ayaan marry zoya if he knw dat his bhai jaan luvs her..i agree with u for some instant bt i dont want ayaan-zoya together..
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Posted: 12 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: crazy4KASH_AR



This is the same reason why I don't want Ayaan and Zoya's marriage.Asad may try not to come between both of them if he thinks that their relationship can be mended again.
But then again if CVs have thought about this track then they must be having something very interesting to mould Asad's thinking and bring AsYa together in the end.All I wanted was to stop people from getting so much disturbed by worrying about the future track.I'm glad that you understood my point of view very well Rach.
I take your point into account and will add it in the main post as well.Thanks a lot for sharing your kind views dear.
Take care!
love you.


You have a lot of faith in these writers; for your sake I hope they don't let you down. People are not disturbed, they grossed out if this track does happen.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Laila2009

Yes, your post is directed at me as I am one of the few people here who will not accept this concept of one brother marrying a woman, sleeping with her and then another brother marrying and then sleeping with her.

I am one of the many people who find the whole concept abhorrent and stale. It lacks creativity and is complete and utter nonsense. Which man in his right mind marries the woman whom is brother has married and slept with? If it happens or has happened in any show, it is AFTER one sibling has died and often as a result of pressure from the family. It does not work; couples have to force it to work. It is an ancient practice done to secure the wealth and the ownership of a woman, especially if she has children, within the existing family. It was also done to provide the woman with financial support if her husband should die.

However, in this day and age, which woman would even be comfortable with the idea? Just because you have seen on example or there is something in one's faith (and btw this woman was a virgin each time she married one of the five brothers I hear), suddenly the whole idea is acceptable to you and therefore everyone else must follow? That is how I read your post. You should re-read your post actually. You did in essence question people who didn't want to accept this relationship and even hinted at their intolerance of the idea.

Just as much you as you see nothing wrong or awkward about Zoya sleeping with Ayaan and then with Asad, I think it is just beyond me, and a complete mockery of the concept of marriage and relationships between these two brothers. Here we have them knowingly sharing a woman? That's just revolting. I have NEVER seen this in any Muslim family to date. Even when one brother dies, the woman doesn't up and marry her brother-in-law.
I find the whole idea completely disgusting and for me, no Asad Zoya magic will make it work. For me these two die once she consummates her marriage with Ayaan - which btw, is very likely going to happen from what I know of 4Lions work.

O btw, I am very calm. You have no idea of my emotional state when I write, so please, do not pretend that you do. 😉 I will enjoy the show until this storyline happens. After that I will be off - much to the delight of some people here.




I can't change your point of view if you have decided to believe that my post is directed at you.I simply wished to broaden the horizon of the people who were a little bit apprehensive about this issue and you by chance happen to be one of them.
My dear friend I'm also a Muslim and my mum's friend was also a Muslim.The marriage is completely halaal in Islam.So please don't say that such things don't happen in Muslim families.
What is so wrong,weird, yucky and immoral about this track?
Zoya will first get divorced and them only marry Asad.She is not two-timing the two brothers.
By your psychology should I conclude that if Zoe marries Ayaan, sleeps with him,gets divorced and then marry a stranger you'll be fine and have no issues?
Why is this concept not creative?Infact I would say it would be quite creative and would change the mentality of some people who think that a girl remains no more acceptable for another man if she sleeps with one man.Zoe won't commit a crime if she sleeps with Ayaan who would be her husband.
If sleeping with a man was soo bad then divorces and re-marriages must have never been socially,legally and religiously acceptable.
You have your own point of view and I've mine.
I respect your sentiments and understand that you are not in a position to digest this track.For you it may be a mockery of relationships and marriage but for me I think this would strengthen AsYa's love bond even more and bring them closer and also Ayaan's sacrifice for his brother's happiness will make me respect the sibling bond more than ever before.
We have completely different psychologies and we have full right to differ on that.
I don't wish to engage in any controversies.I take your point that you can't tolerate this track.I wish you may gather the patience to hook on the show if God forbid this track happens.
All I wished to request is that there is no point in getting hyper about the future.We can be a little more patient and let the CVs unfold what they have instore for us.
Thanks a lot for sharing your views.It was nice to see this reply on a soft note from your side.
Take care!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Just came in to post...I would quit watching if Zoya and Ayaan get married. I am not aware of the other shows mentioned..and just started watching desi soaps.

To me, it's a personal choice on what one finds entertaining to watch.

Ayaan falling for Zoya and hints at potential marriage.. is ok to watch... because it will make for interesting drama, but if Ayaan and Zoya are shown to be married (contract, or real ..regardless of they actually sleep together or not), I would stop watching.

Just sayin..😃


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Posted: 12 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: crazy4KASH_AR



My responses to you are below:

I can't change your point of view if you have decided to believe that my post is directed at you.I simply wished to broaden the horizon of the people who were a little bit apprehensive about this issue and you by chance happen to be one of them.


What's the difference between trying to broaden my horizons and not change my point of view? 😉

My dear friend I'm also a Muslim and my mum's friend was also a Muslim.The marriage is completely halaal in Islam.So please don't say that such things don't happen in Muslim families.

So what if it is halal in Islam for a man to have marry have sex with a woman and then divorce her so his brother can marry her. Some religious leaders in Islam have said it is OK for a man to marry the daughter whom he has adopted because they are not blood related, but does that also make it OK for you? I find that GROSS. There are also those who say it is acceptable for a girl 9 or older to be married to an old man, are you also OK with it? Just because it's a halaal means nothing to me.

By the way, your mother's friend, did she marry the other brother while the other brother was alive? Would she have done that? And why did she marry the brother? Did she fall in love or did she have children and didn't have a choice? I am curious.

What is so wrong,weird, yucky and immoral about this track?

Plenty. In your world this might be quite acceptable, but in the world of others including the liberal west where I live, this is not accepted. We have Jerry Springer episodes meaning this is considered not acceptable.

Zoya will first get divorced and them only marry Asad.She is not two-timing the two brothers.

It doesn't matter - if she loves one brother and/or has sex with him; she's married to him and if she sex with him, it's even worse.

By your psychology should I conclude that if Zoe marries Ayaan, sleeps with him,gets divorced and then marry a stranger you'll be fine and have no issues?

No issues there.

Why is this concept not creative?Infact I would say it would be quite creative and would change the mentality of some people who think that a girl remains no more acceptable for another man if she sleeps with one man.Zoe won't commit a crime if she sleeps with Ayaan who would be her husband.
If sleeping with a man was soo bad then divorces and re-marriages must have never been socially,legally and religiously acceptable.

It's not just ANY man, it's her brother.

You have your own point of view and I've mine. I respect your sentiments and understand that you are not in a position to digest this track.For you it may be a mockery of relationships and marriage but for me I think this would strengthen AsYa's love bond even more and bring them closer and also Ayaan's sacrifice for his brother's happiness will make me respect the sibling bond more than ever before.

Two brothers having sex with a woman strengthens their relationship? Great. 😆 And Asad and Zoya will be even closer as a result? Great, then all women should go ahead and marry the brother of the man they marry, have sex with them and then divorce them because that will help make their love stronger. I love the logic😕🤣

We have completely different psychologies and we have full right to differ on that.
I don't wish to engage in any controversies.I take your point that you can't tolerate this track.I wish you may gather the patience to hook on the show if God forbid this track happens.

Inshallah, since you love the idea of this track so much, I pray to Allah that you get your wish, that Ayaan marries Zoya, she loves him and they have sex and divorce and she ends up with Asad afterwards. After all, you don't find it awkward and actually think it will be great and creative idea. 😉

All I wished to request is that there is no point in getting hyper about the future.We can be a little more patient and let the CVs unfold what they have instore for us.

But what if I know something about the storyline and how it's going to probably unfold? 😃


Thanks a lot for sharing your views.It was nice to see this reply on a soft note from your side.
Take care!

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Posted: 12 years ago
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sensible post, asma. i agree wiyh you.and to whoever feels that it is not acceptable if zoya-ayaan marraige is consumnated,let me tell you that marraige is a very vast issue.sleeping with your husband is just a very small part of marraige. its really not a big deal.moreover its a fictional show, things happen in shows, which do not happen in real life.dekho enjoy karo aur bhool jao. its not a matter of life and death.

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