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Posted: 9 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: Fantasia.

Also i believe that if Jay Shergill sensed something amiss about Rizwaan then so did Rizwaan. If Rizwaan gave himself away then so did Jay. Mtlb he couldn't act cool or keep Rizwaan off the guard. Rizwaan is totally alert on him, maybe this is the reason that scene didn't bother me. Yes Jay tried to act smart by keeping a straight face but that didnt help.


idk shergill did kind of tell him everything he needed to know- RAW agent beware...because you know thats what intelligence agents do- reveal themselves. and i think rizwan is alert because he realizes that he faltered moreso than he just knows shergill is suspicious.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: Fantasia.

Also i believe that if Jay Shergill sensed something amiss about Rizwaan then so did Rizwaan. If Rizwaan gave himself away then so did Jay. Mtlb he couldn't act cool or keep Rizwaan off the guard. Rizwaan is totally alert on him, maybe this is the reason that scene didn't bother me. Yes Jay tried to act smart by keeping a straight face but that

didnt help.

yes that he did. But as you said rizwan got informed that He is RAW agent and got the signal of danger. but he did decipher that Shergill was there to execute some mission. Shergill was jdging him by body language. His entry was very sketchily done though. black jacket, black sunglasses, black joote. Plus when that general said he is that undercover agent responsible for catching 75% terrorist. I was like when you are screaming his idenityout, toh kahe ka undercover agent? kuch toh khayal karo. jakae red fort se announce karo that he is the best RAW agent. 🤣
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Posted: 9 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: daydreamers

Payal, tejaswini ( can I call you teju?)😛kitna likh re ho😆

And kya likh re ho?😕sorry didn't read ab tak...

The whole show is giving me an impression ki riz ko ekdum bechari gaay banake chod re h😆

But let's understand this... I ges I had posted it earlier also...

Preet and huddas have kept the 6 year old alive..and very unfortunately he has attached to them emotionally...

Its not that he hasn't got a perfect training instead "rizwan ka dil dhadakne laga hai" kya dialogue tha atif ka.. Gives out a lot...

And today's

"Itne Saalon se huddas ko bewakuf bana rahe ho"😛

Bahot bada pointer h...
Kal tak I got a feel ki may be preet will be trapped in everything... The camp will successfully evict riz from there and very cleverly frame preet in everything...

But aj k raw agent ki entry has again twisted things... Let's c what more v have

Jus my pov didn't read ur posts yet so maafi



I agree wth ur points sply Rizwan ka dil dhadakne lga h one... Bt one complain i hv wth those RizReet scenes Riz ka reactn is bit ajib bt as I mentioned in some other post ki may be cvs are showing it intentionally to create insecurities for preet
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Posted: 9 years ago
#94
yeah i do know that Rizwaan was informed that Jay Shergill is the raw agent but Rizwaan realizes that he kows about thier mission. That is where Jay gave himself away by revealing that he has sensed too much.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Let-It-Go

@Kinza ( I hope I got the name right ) .. i get what are you trying to say.. But here is my point ( last of the lot 😉)

Who is Rizwaan ? A young child whose parents where brutally killed in front of his eyes and from that point onwards he was filled with hatred towards India by the radical group and he has it in his hearts that India is the main cause for him being orphan, for his country suffering and for many such casualties his country face He infiltrated in India with a false identity and continued his mission without a glitch till he fell in live with Preet. I can understant that its love for Preet which is making him uncomfortable in front of her...or which beholds him to look in her eyes and lie about anything or everything.

But does this change his hate towards India ? No..

He may not realize but after all this time he is unconsciously questioning the nature of his mission? The cafe scene with Sana reveals how he has began to see that the common man in Pakistan and India isnt different at all. So if we peel off what he is fed since childhood, he has started to feel differently inside.

Did Preet's painful past change his opinion about his own group ? No

It did. That was the main REASON Rizwaan turned against his people for the FIRST time. It was the SOLE reason he came up with this demand of involving him completely otherwise its a good bye from him. It is the sole reason he now doubts that his group is capable of killing innocents.

Did he try to think what exactly he is upto ? No..

He thinks about it everyday. If you remember that FB scene after the kuku spy incident he confesses that he doesnt know how so much hatred became a part of a six year old child, but today all he knows that he cannot separate himself from Ishaan. He confesses it.

So basically Love makes him weak in front if Preet and it is expected and thats how the story will move forward. His vulnerability will eventually lead him to path of righteousness and make him confront his own actions which were done in the name of his country.
Here I am not bothered how he behaves with Preet, he is bound to hesitate but what bothers me is how he reacts with others..like Naina or Shergill.
I wish he was shown Perfectly normal in front of Naina and Shergill, it would have been a treat to watch.
Something like, it doesnt matter to him when the world comes in front of him but when she comes in front of him, his world turns around.

Yeah you put forward a beautiful point, but then again i would repeat that he is not a manipulator or a lair, yes he can sneak away papers, or leak information, but when it comes to manipulating emotions. He fails. As for Shergill, aar Rizwaan ne bhi tu pakr liya k Shergill ko plan ka pata hai! 😆😆 😳


Sorry for the late reply dear, i lost your post 😭. You are Lekha right? trust me i am having a wonderful time discussing all this with u. My replies in bold and red 😳
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Kinxa she is ruchi. Lekha is destiny, she seems to be missing. Even Raveena is missing too. Aur naseem toh eid ka chaand ban gayi hai. I miss her daily analysis post.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#97

Originally posted by: pinkeye

Kinxa she is ruchi. Lekha is destiny, she seems to be missing. Even Raveena is missing too. Aur naseem toh eid ka chaand ban gayi hai. I miss her daily analysis post.


"Tumne pukara aur hum challe aaye..." 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Loveforlife



"Tumne pukara aur hum challe aaye..."😆



I dont know what song to sing. 😆
Glad you came. 😳
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Posted: 9 years ago
#99

Originally posted by: pinkeye



I dont know what song to sing. 😆
Glad you came. 😳


Can't comment much on the episode.. Will watch it tomorrow...
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: pinkeye

ok here is my take. The things are happening in rapid succession, its okay till the tracks are given bit time to settle down and have some space to breathe its own. Its like one after the other. There is no time given to sink in the emotions, the situations, the transitions from one phase of relationship to the other. It lacks fluidity imho. Rizwan felt the angst knowing her past getting linked with his people. he impulsively confronts Aatif, comes back , and in a jiffy admits who he is, which readily gets brushed off as a joke. No significant space for the scenes to have its impact. isn't it? Then he wants to distance himself which gets washed away in hurry when preet lands up in trouble. then why to even show the distancing Rizwan and Preet feeling sad. from there, Preet wants to atke the relationship forward, Rizwan get boosted by sana and becomes all romantic nd inhibitionless forgetting all his conflicts. Ok its his impulses, his desires, not mch contro over that, but that too gets brushed off in the same scene by entry of another grom his past. He now becomes indifferent to the same person whom he was romancing few minutes back,. so why even bother to create the situation ? now when they plan to show the insecurities cropping up in the relationship , here comes an agent to with another mission. Rizwan and Preet relation and its dynamics in a second becomes insignificant from this angle as Rizwan wants to succeed in his mission by hook or by crrok. I mean whats the central track regarding the protagonist? Please care to explain cvs.

don't know whts the root cause of this jumbled up execution but hope it gets its grip quickly as the show does have much potential and the leads character sketch and the actors are top notch.


The way u wrote it Payal I had a laughter riot 😆😆😆

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