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Posted: 12 years ago

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Just watched the 2/27 episode and put my rambling, jumbled up thoughts down in response to Borna's episode review thread.

And as for Lady Macbeth...She is scaring me. She irritates me already, and now she's scaring me after all I've read about these speculations regarding her turning into a sort of Menaka. I keep oscillating between feeling sympathetic and feeling irritated when I think about Ishita! LOL. I wonder what the Mittals have in mind...

Aw, Borna, don't let PV's Lady Macbeth irritate you. I understand how you feel on the sympathy part because the triggers for her current emotional state do draw some sympathy. Yet, how she has dealt with the trauma she faces and continues to deal with it can easily make her a jagged pill to swallow. At the moment, I'm more neutral about her while still finding her relationship with Akash potentially interesting. Eventually, she may become a better, less bitter version of herself, but, for now, it seems she is being used to provide an "unpretty" view of misguided attempts for love and acceptance.

I think more that being mahaan or anything, AarYa are trying to make IshAk feel welcomed. They know that no one else in the family would take the initiative to do so. They didn't even want IshAk in the house for the matter. But AarYa, especially Yash, probably feel like they are usurping someone else's rights. For the rest of the family, the dynamics within the family doesn't change as much as it has for AarYa because literally, they are the paraya ones now. Someone has to stand up to fight for IshAk's rights. And that's not all, what's the point in bringing them home if they are still going to be alienated by the family. That is why AarYa are going out of their way to do what is in their means to ensure that IshAk feel welcomed. The fact that the rest of the family is so unwelcoming makes it seem as if AarYa are being mahaan. It's just that IshAk might take advantage of this situation and try to snatch everything away from AarYa and that's when disaster would strike, which makes things very interesting, if you ask me. ;)

Anu, you said what I was thinking, but much more eloquently than I did. On the bold, I agree. That's why I call them fearless. They know it's what needs to be done, so they take the initiative, sacrificing what they've been given, because they believe that including Akash and Ishita is the right thing to do. It might be an interesting state of affairs if Akash and Ishita initially succeed in displacing Yash and Aarti within the family circle, but then they create absolute chaos because neither really have the finesse to handle the family or the family business. They would appear to take Yash and Aarti's place within the family, but won't be able to sustain it. If that happens, I suspect Yash and Aarti would be the ones who will eventually salvage and stabilize the family.

Sudha, so true on Gurmeet and Kratika completely bringing their A-game with this arc. When I think they can't impress me more, they do. They continue to be a whole class apart. And the cast works so well as an ensemble.

This week episodes so far were good!! AarYa giving full justice to Aakash and family but in the process , they were hurting their own family members which is understandable!! But I stick to Aarti's optimism , Yes its hard to accept and also very difficult to get back things to normal but its not impossible...right?? Very true !! It takes time for Gayu , SP and rest of the Scindia's to accept Aakash and Ishita and eventually it happens but may at an expense of AarYa's life?? Seems to me mostly like that with all the Ishita's cunning moves!! As many were saying AarYa have dig themselves into trouble but as long as they were together was it anything big ??

On the bold sentences, IA. They're breaking hearts to ensure Akash and Ishita find a place within the family, but their own hearts may be broken because the cost may be their own place within the family.

Agree with everyone here who said Aakash and Ishita so called "romance" was total contrast to AarYa's deep love and also its mostly meant to establish their characters and expose their desires!!

True, Sudha. I call it an "establishing" scene. It gave us a better understanding of the personality of their interaction as well as what they want now that they're in the house.

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Jac absolutely agree with what you said above. I'm kinda getting the feeling that Akash and Ishita are somehow going to turn the family against Yash and Aarti or at the very least, make it so that Aarti and Yash have no choice but to leave their family.

Thursday's episode was good. I felt that Akash was purposely overdoing it on the "gavar gunda mawali" act because he wanted to create a scene to get SP to react to him. While I did feel a tad bit sorry for SP, everything that Akash said was the truth and SP deserved to hear what his actions had done to his son and Radha. SP was quick to point out that it was his mistake and that it was his last mistake and then he makes arrangements to pay off his son to keep quiet and leave his peaceful family and social status intact.

I felt the worst for Akash and Yash today. I'm sure all the things the family say against Akash, calling him names and saying he should have rotted in that hellhole SP left him and his mother in kept reinforcing the fact that Yash was the one who was originally supposed to be in Akash's place. It kept reminding him that he could have been the son who was spurned by SP, the one who would have had to lead a miserable life and having to suffer the taunts of people calling him an illegitimate child and abusing his mother.

Pankaj is seriously becoming annoying day by day. I know he doesn't want his father to be humiliated but it seems like Pankaj hardly cares what SP's actions did to Gayatri, to Radha and to both Akash and Yash. He is just like SP in the sense of wanting to maintain prestige and a powerful image of the Scindia family.

Borna I agree that EK and BT have made the term "mahaan" seem like some sort of derogatory term. Her heroines are "mahaan" to the point of being irritating. There is nothing wrong with being generous and kind, because in real life, those are the qualities most people appreciate in others and in themselves. If EK hadn't ruled the TV roost for nearly 10 years showing silly heroines putting themselves through the wringer and all sorts of torture for the sake of being "mahaan" we would not be so judgmental of characters being as such. And I agree with you all that Yash and Aarti probably seem "mahaan" because they are the only ones making efforts to make Akash and Ishita feel welcome in their family as opposed to the rest of the family who don't really give a damn. In this case, I feel more irritated towards the behavior of the Scindias. Even Vidhi said in her self-talk that Yash and Aarti were being "mahaan" but that they didn't know the implications of their actions.

In short, SP had it coming and I'm glad Akash said what he did, even if it was rude and disrespectful because let's face it, SP passed the limits of humanity and decorum when he cheated on Gayatri with Radha and then trashed Radha when she claimed she was pregnant with his child.

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Posted: 12 years ago

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*sigh* Haven't seen the episode, and what I've been reading so far about the majority opinions regarding the "mahaanta" rising to new heights, especially where Aarti is concerned (how Yash gets put through the wringer comparatively less in comparison to Aarti by the IF members is something that strikes me every so often), makes me even less motivated to watch the episode's unfolding drama with Akash in the spotlight. I have nothing against the new characters - I find them fascinating, honestly, although I am not inclined to be declaring undying love for any of them by shouting from the rooftops anytime soon - plus I'm feeling terribly under the weather...zero energy reserves left. I don't think my head and heart can take an episode full of SP and Akash and Ishita today. *collapses onto the bed*

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Jac absolutely agree with what you said above. I'm kinda getting the feeling that Akash and Ishita are somehow going to turn the family against Yash and Aarti or at the very least, make it so that Aarti and Yash have no choice but to leave their family.

Hey Nina, Yash and Aarti leaving is very possible. A lot of what they're doing now has "backfire" written all over it and I think they'll feel the sting of it in the near future. But this is part of their maturation process.

Thursday's episode was good. I felt that Akash was purposely overdoing it on the "gavar gunda mawali" act because he wanted to create a scene to get SP to react to him. While I did feel a tad bit sorry for SP, everything that Akash said was the truth and SP deserved to hear what his actions had done to his son and Radha. SP was quick to point out that it was his mistake and that it was his last mistake and then he makes arrangements to pay off his son to keep quiet and leave his peaceful family and social status intact.

I haven't seen Thursday's episode yet, but from what I'm reading it was a kicker. I'm looking forward to seeing it. I'm glad Akash has had his chance to vent, especially since SP remains so detached about his actions.

Everyone: Can I ask a question? Apart from Gayatri's discomfort about Radha being the "other woman", why has Radha flown under the radar about her role in this confusion? She swapped two babies in a hospital, confessed it, but yet I haven't heard a word of questioning or resentment from either son about it. 😕

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Jac: Read your other responses to my posts and loved them, so a belated thanks to you! Regarding answers to the Radha question...Maybe that is the next storm on the horizon, after people actually start letting those facts sink in a little deeper...? If things are going to get worse for Yash-Aarti because of what they're trying to do now, I suppose Radha might also be in the same line they're in.

Nina: Oh, the episode sounds like a super happy one 😳 Thanks for the succinct review of the sympathetic ones and the not-so-sympathetic ones who made an impression on you...Your mention of Pankaj just motivates me even more to stay away from the episode until I'm feeling well enough (brave enough) to watch the thing.

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Borna I see it too how Aarti is usually the subject of criticism in comparison to Yash. I really don't know why that is but since the Mumbai track, I've come to understand why certain people may think so of Aarti even though I myself may not agree or even understand the reasons.

Jac about Radha - that is something I am wondering too! Yash and Akash both don't seem to question Radha nor do the other family members. SP hasn't said anything against Radha for swapping the babies and I think it's because they're pretty content with how their lives were thinking Yash is their son rather than Akash. They have no emotional attachment to Akash so his existence hardly matters to them and none would break down at the fact that Akash is their real son because for them Yash is their son. It might have been a different case if Gayatri and SP were aware that Yash wasn't their real son yet they took him and maybe Gayatri would have craved to see how her own child turned out but since they all believed all these years that Yash was their son, they don't really care to question Radha on why she did what she did. Or maybe we just might find out in later episodes.

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Originally posted by: MelodiousDreams
*sigh* Haven't seen the episode, and what I've been reading so far about the majority opinions regarding the "mahaanta" rising to new heights, especially where Aarti is concerned (how Yash gets put through the wringer comparatively less in comparison to Aarti by the IF members is something that strikes me every so often), makes me even less motivated to watch the episode's unfolding drama with Akash in the spotlight. I have nothing against the new characters - I find them fascinating, honestly, although I am not inclined to be declaring undying love for any of them by shouting from the rooftops anytime soon - plus I'm feeling terribly under the weather...zero energy reserves left. I don't think my head and heart can take an episode full of SP and Akash and Ishita today. *collapses onto the bed*

Aw, Borna. 🤗 I haven't seen the episode yet either, and I plan to watch it later. I have been reading the reactions to Aarti and Yash's actions in the DC. I won't be as severe in my wording for them as I've seen some of our fellow viewers in the DC have been, but even without seeing today's episode, just from the past couple of episodes, I must admit Yash and Aarti really are setting themselves up for a fall in their current approach. Their hearts are in the right place and they are trying to be positive, but, as I said last night, they're venturing into uncharted territory in this integration process, and I don't think they're being deliberate enough. They're sort of pushing through with high hopes, and I suspect Ishita, Akash, and the rest of the family will give them a rude awakening in different ways. It would not be something I'll rejoice in seeing, but it won't surprise me when/if it happens. On the plus side, I do believe this provides great room for them to grow as characters and as a couple.

I hope you feel a little more energized soon.

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Nina: Great insights about how/why "the Radha issue" might not be the most pressing of concerns among the Scindias at this moment. We might see that being addressed at some point if things keep going at this rate, who knows?

Jac: Yeah, I can see how things are probably going to culminate in a "great, big fall" like Humpty Dumpty's fall, but I hope it won't end there. I'm not opposed to the prospect of what this dip in the learning curve will entail for the characters...Like you said yesterday (or was it today?) the reactions of viewers can be off-putting at times...Ah well, I should try to stop being so affected by word choice. Easier said than done, but I shall try.

Edit: Oh. Forgot to mention something. The bit about "venturing into uncharted waters" is a good point you bring up, and it made me wonder how else the "ice" would have broken if the mahaan duo had just left everything to take its course. Would things have moved anywhere, or would there have been an impasse for a prolonged period? *shrugs* It is good to give people their space, I agree...Part of the problem is precisely that Yash-Aarti don't know Akash-Ishita - but then, how are they supposed to get to know them without interacting with them? Ishita has her masquerade outfit and mask ready, while Akash doesn't want to do much. Puzzle. Rhetorical question, if you'd like! 😛

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Posted: 12 years ago

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I read in the DC that in the precap SP gave another deadline for Akash to mend his ways. What's up with SP and his deadlines 😆?

And Gurmeet's away for his movie? Since when?

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Jac: Read your other responses to my posts and loved them, so a belated thanks to you! Regarding answers to the Radha question...Maybe that is the next storm on the horizon, after people actually start letting those facts sink in a little deeper...? If things are going to get worse for Yash-Aarti because of what they're trying to do now, I suppose Radha might also be in the same line they're in.

No problem at all, Borna. 😃 On Radha, yeah, they may handle that later. For me, though, the moment the truth was out, the first questions should have been launched at her. We'll see if the Mittals address it at some point. Radha may certainly be in the same position they're in when/if things get worse.

Jac: Yeah, I can see how things are probably going to culminate in a "great, big fall" like Humpty Dumpty's fall, but I hope it won't end there. I'm not opposed to the prospect of what this dip in the learning curve will entail for the characters...Like you said yesterday (or was it today?) the reactions of viewers can be off-putting at times...Ah well, I should try to stop being so affected by word choice. Easier said than done, but I shall try.

The harshly worded or the overly enthusiastic reactions can definitely be off-putting, and it comes down to our differences in expressing our views. Don't let that deter you. I know how you feel, though. During the days the Ex was here, I think I was one of the few lone wolves who really thought he was poorly written while others fawned all over him and found him "complex." It was very frustrating, lol. But, then, I notice that I disagree with quite a number of opinions in the DC on major story beats. Now, some find Aarti and Yash annoying and patronizing, while I just find them miscalculating badly because they're in over their heads. From what I can tell, Aarti is taking the heat more in this situation because Yash tends to be a little more diplomatic in his attempts and he's being given some room because he's one of the wronged parties in the melee. But, from where I sit, I see them both miscalculating. I'm more fearful for them than anything else because I'm anticipating the backfiring of their current plans and their own heartbreak. 💔

I'll take the question literally, lol. You're right, Yash and Aarti are building a bridge where no one else is willing, and they wouldn't get to know Akash and Ishita without interaction. It's how they're going about initiating the interaction that some seem to find problematic. From what I'm reading, it's their timing and their tone with others that some are taking issue with. [EDITED TO ADD: The breadth of their generosity is also in question because, even though being mahaan is their nature, they seem to be giving up too much too fast.]IMHO, I do think they're aware that this will be a difficult transition and they're taking a positive outlook, but integration will take more time, understanding, diplomacy, cunning, and deliberation. Creating the opening is good and necessary yet their quick launch is ruffling feathers in some ways and making them vulnerable in other ways. It's a rock-and-hard place situation for them; they're enthusiastic to make things better, to assuage any feelings of guilt or obligation, but they're unable to cater to everyone's sensitivities on one hand and don't know exactly who they're dealing with on the other. That's what leaves the door open for them being put into a tailspin. But I believe they will be stronger versions of themselves in the long run.

Jac about Radha - that is something I am wondering too! Yash and Akash both don't seem to question Radha nor do the other family members. SP hasn't said anything against Radha for swapping the babies and I think it's because they're pretty content with how their lives were thinking Yash is their son rather than Akash. They have no emotional attachment to Akash so his existence hardly matters to them and none would break down at the fact that Akash is their real son because for them Yash is their son. It might have been a different case if Gayatri and SP were aware that Yash wasn't their real son yet they took him and maybe Gayatri would have craved to see how her own child turned out but since they all believed all these years that Yash was their son, they don't really care to question Radha on why she did what she did. Or maybe we just might find out in later episodes.

IA, Nina, on the Scindias lack of questioning. Good point in bold. You're right; at the moment, they're choosing to live within their bubble because they have no emotional connection with Akash. But Yash and Akash's lack of questioning strikes me as odd. Akash, in particular. I need someone to offload on her too, not just SP. 😆 Like you said, maybe we'll find out in later episodes.

I have no idea what is up with SP and his deadlines. 😆 On Gurmeet being away for a bit. Yeah. I don't have the details on that, but I read somewhere on the MF that he's finishing up a movie in last week in February and first week in March.

ETA: Just read that he's back from his shoot.

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