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Posted: 12 years ago


@Sam: You are right in your observation about the show times and TRPs. I have had the same experience with another show that I used to watch earlier.


I would really like it if PV moved to the 10 pm slot...since I watch QH and would love to just continue for the next half an hour. That half an hour in between is very difficult to pass and after the story line changed, I just gave up and shut down by 10 pm. I have always wished PV timing was just a wee bit earlier in the evening!
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Posted: 12 years ago
Congratulations all for the TRP rise 🥳... few things r proved with this rise now ...

First drama sells whether its filmy or not 😆... Like I said 10.30 is late night slot , so unless CVs give extreme dramatic moments , viewers wont tune into watch .. they always hv the option to catch repeat next day ... so in late night slot especially post digitisation , its important that drama is always at its peak to maintain the ratings or go up ...

Second Viewers of PV wanted a new fresh track and fortunately this whole Radha-Akash track has grabbed the eyeballs of new viewers I think who started watching as this new track has no connection with the phase 1 of PV ... so new viewers can easily understand this new track 😃...

Third from what I noticed in TRP chart , Viewers love a couple to remain together and face the battles .. this factor always gives rise in trps ... BALH fell because viewers r tired of RaYa's never ending separation whereas in PV whatever hurdle has come , AarYa unites in the end ..even third marriage dint happen ... this positive factor worked I think 😊... Veera saw a huge rise because kids hv a instant connection with viewers especially the male viewers who prefer watching TV at late night slot .. ... Also Like Samana said , the previous show always helps in boosting the ranking of next show .. Veera's previous show which comes at 10pm gets a trp of 3.9 .. so automatically Veera profits from it whereas in PV's case , we dont hv that advantage of a 10 pm show since the 10pm show fetches lower than PV ... Mayb if our timing was 10pm then we would hv the advantage of 9.30pm show which fetches 3.3 ...

Overall CVs hv got the momentum now ... so hopefully they will carry on 😃



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Posted: 12 years ago
All perfect praise be to Allaah, the Lord of the worlds. I testify that there is none worthy of worship except Allaah, and that Muhammad , is His Slave and Messenger.

Dajjal means ( the Anti- Christ) dajjal is reality its not something figurative , or its not something symbolic , its reality that we have been told in Islam by Allah's Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) the last and final messenger, we wouldn't have known about it.

Dajjal is derived from the route word "Dajala" which means to move fast the arabs say "dajala rajulu " that means when man travels fast, the word "dajala" it has other meaning too which means "to lie" there's no contradiction both meanings do apply to the person "dajjal" when he comes to earth he does travels so fast.

The Prophet Muhammed (Pbuh) described just like the rain carried with strong wind he travels so fast on earth , He deceives the people he makes things look different what it actually appears to be, for example to coat a metal in gold but in reality it is not , these are some linguistic terminology of the word " dajjal" in arabic.

Dajjal is a evil human being narrated in the sayings of the prophet:

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said:

"I have kept you here because Tamim Ad-Dari, a Christian man who has embraced Islam, told me something which agrees with what I have told you about the Dajjal. He told me that he had sailed in a ship with thirty men from Banu Lakham and Banu Juzam. The sea waves rocked them about for a month, and finally drew them toward an island around sunset time. They approached the island and landed. They were met by a beast that was so hairy that they could not tell its front from its back. They said: 'Woe to you! Who are you?' It said: 'I am Al-Jassasah.' They said: 'What is Al-Jassasah?' It said: 'O people, go to the man in the monastery, for he is very eager to know about you.' Tamim said that when it named a person to us we left quickly fearing that it might be a devil.

Tamim Dari said we quickly went to the monastery. There, we found a huge man whom we had never seen before. His hands were tied up to his neck and his legs tied up with with iron shackles. We said: 'Woe to you, who are you?' He said: 'You will soon know about me. Tell me who you are.'

We said: 'We are people from Arabia. We sailed on a ship, but the waves have been tossing us around about for a month, and they brought us to your island, where we met a very hairy beast. It said: 'I am Al-Jassasah.' We asked: 'What is Al-Jassasah?' and it told us: 'Go to the man in the monastery, for he is very eager to know about you.' So we came to you quickly.

The man said: 'Tell me about the date-palm trees of Bisan (town in Northern Palestine, near Jordan River, renamed by Israel as Beit She'an).' We said: 'What do you want to know about them'?' He said: 'I want to know whether these trees bear fruits or not.' We said 'Yes'. He said: 'Soon, they will not bear fruits.'

Then he said: 'Tell me about the Lake of Tiberias (Sea of Galilee in Northern Palestine).' We said: 'What do you want to know about it?' He said: 'Is there water in it'?' We said: 'There is plenty of water in it.' He said: 'Soon, it will become dry.'

Then he said: 'Tell me about the Spring of Zughar (near the Dead Sea in Palestine).' We asked: 'What do you want to know about it'?' He asked: 'Is there water in it, and does it irrigate the land'?' We said: 'Yes, there is plenty of water in it, and the people use it to irrigate the land.'

Then he said: 'Tell me about the illiterate Prophet [Muhammad (PBUH), what has he done?' We said: 'He has left Makka (Mecca) and settled in Yathrib (Madina).' He said: 'Do the Arabs fight against him'?' We said 'Yes'. He said: 'How does he deal with them'?' So we told him that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) had overcome the Arabs around him and that they had followed him. He asked: 'Has it really happened?' We said 'Yes'. He said: 'It is better for them to follow him. Now I will tell you about myself. I am the Dajjal. I will soon be permitted to leave this place: I will emerge and travel about the Earth. In forty nights, I will pass through every town, except Makka (Mecca) and Tiba (Madina), for these have been forbidden to me. Every time I try to enter either of them, I will be met by an angel bearing an unsheathed sword, who will prevent me from entering. There will be angels guarding them at every route leading to them.'

Fatima bint Qays said: Then, the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) struck the minbar (pulpit) with his cane and said: 'This is Tiba, this is Tiba, this is Tiba,' meaning Madina. 'Did I not tell you this before?' The people said: 'Yes'. [The Prophet (PBUH) said:] 'I liked the story of Tamim because it agrees with what I used to tell you about him and about Makka (Mecca) and Madina. But he is in the Syrian Sea (Mediterranean Sea) or the Yemeni Sea (Arabian Sea). No, rather he is in the East, he in the East, he is in the East,' and he pointed towards the East with his hand. She said: I memorized this from the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) . " (Sahih Muslim).


Ibn Shihab said: "'Omar Ibn Thabit al-Ansari told me that some of the Companions of the Prophet told him that on the day when he warned the people about the Dajjal, the Prophet said: "There will be written between his eyes the word Kafir (unbeliever). Everyone who resents his bad deeds - or every believer- will be able to read it." He also said, "You must know that no one of you will be able to see his Lord until he dies.'" (Muslim, al-Bukhari). Ibn 'Omar said, "The Prophet mentioned the Dajjal to the people. He said, "Allah is not one-eyed, but the Dajjal is blind in his right eye, and his eye is like a floating grape.'" (Muslim) Anas Ibn Malik said, "The Prophet said, 'there has never been a Prophet who did not warn his people against that one-eyed liar. Verily he is one-eyed and your Lord is not one-eyed. On his forehead will be written the letter Kaf, Fa, Ra (Kafir).'" (Muslim, al-Bukhari)

Hudhayfah said, "The Prophet said, 'I know more about the powers which the Dajjal will have than he will know himself. He will have two flowing rivers: one will appear to be pure water, and the other will appear to be flaming fire. Whosoever lives to see that, let him choose the river which seems to be fire, then let him close his eyes, lower his head and drink from it, for it will be cold water. The Dajjal will be one-eyed; the place where one eye should be will be covered by a piece of skin. On his forehead will be written the word Kafir, and every believer, whether literate or illiterate, will be able to read it.'" (Muslim)



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Posted: 12 years ago
Did anyone see these videos .. Mittals gave us a beautiful valentines day gift in the form of GC-KS reading out the best valentines msges ... I loved the way GC-KS together reads it out ... its soo soo adorable ... 😳😳

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2z0GBUBc_s[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ7eXdxexY4[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7dhsRiTsV0[/YOUTUBE]
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Posted: 12 years ago
@Deepti: What a fab WHN! 🤣 Poor Yashji, going to the dargah to get his super powers. Can he ask to be magically transformed into SP and G3's biological son as well, because that bubble is going to burst a little more violently than the superman bubble!

@Shobhs, Raveena and Chhavi: So glad you guys agree with me. I have long had this complaint about Zee, that they don't group their shows properly in the correct time slots so that viewership will just flow from one to another. To me, that has always been SP's biggest strength... their shows sort of flow from one to another where the audience won't abruptly turn off the TV when their show ends. The TRP audience are the floating audience and if most of them are on SP for the ten o'clock show, which it seems they are, then they will just stay on SP unless they are especially interested in watching something on another channel.

We saw how well PV and QH worked together, so yeah, it would be great if they were slotted one after the other.

@All: I made a fun thread on the MF. Everyone check it out and try to participate so I don't feel silly! 😆

www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3436897
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Posted: 12 years ago

Hurray for the 2.3 TRPs!!! 👏
Just a matter of time, way to go CVs... 😳

@Samana I agree with u about the TRPs, have observe that many times on our side.
I just don't have idea to other show of Indian series, the reason why can't comment about it.. But what you have said are all true, trps also depend on the time it was shown and the show it follows..
PV was already at stake when it comes to trps coz of it's late airing, it's timeslot. Only loyal viewers were the one which maintains it.. Some times viewers were too impatient in waiting. If they find the show ahead of it, not interesting, they tend to switch channel and watch other show. Or might just sleep than watching. Reasons why they loose their viewers. And that's exactly what happened with PV.
Good thing PV has it's unique quality story and brilliant actors, the reason why some viewers are keep on coming back and watching it.. Mittals surely know how to fix it...
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Posted: 12 years ago
Sihr (black- magic)

Praise be to Allaah.

Whoever is affected by sihr should not treat it with sihr, because evil cannot be removed by evil, and kufr cannot be removed by kufr. Evil is removed by good. Hence when the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was asked about al-nushrah (treating sihr with sihr), he said: "This is the work of the Shaytaan." Nushrah means removing sihr from a person who has been affected by it by using more sihr. But if it is treated by means of the Qur'aan and permissible medicines or good ruqyahs, there is nothing wrong with that, but treating it with sihr is not permitted, as previously stated, because sihr means worshipping the shayaateen (devils). The saahir (magician, practitioner of witchcraft) does sihr or learns sihr only after worshipping and serving the shayaateen, and drawing close to them by means of the things that they like. After that, they teach him the means of sihr. But, praise be to Allaah, there is no reason why the person who has been affected by sihr should not be treated by means of reciting Qur'aan and the prayers for refuge with Allaah that are prescribed in sharee'ah, and permissible medicines, just as patients with all kinds of sicknesses are treated by doctors. The patient does not necessarily recover, because not every sick person does recover. A sick patient might be treated and then recover if his appointed time (of death) has not yet arrived, or he may not recover and may die from this sickness, even though he may be been seen by the most skilled physicians and knowledgeable doctors. When the appointed time of death comes, no medicine or treatment will be of any avail, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

"And Allaah grants respite to none when his appointed time (death) comes"

[al-Munaafiqoon 63:11]

Medical treatment is of benefit when the appointed time has not yet come, and Allaah decrees that His slave should be healed. The same applies in the case of one who has been affected by sihr; Allaah may decree that he should recover, or He may not decree that, as a test and a trial, or for other reasons which are known to Allaah. Among those reasons may be the fact that the one who is treating him does not have the right treatment for this problem. It was narrated in a saheeh report that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "For every disease there is a medicine, and if that medicine is applied to the disease, he will recover by Allaah's Leave." And he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Allaah has not sent down any disease but He has also sent down the cure; the one who knows it knows it and the one who does not know it does not know it."

Among the treatments prescribed in sharee'ah is the treatment of sihr with recitation of the Qur'aan. The greatest soorah in the Qur'aan, which is al-Faatihah, should be recited over the person who has been affected by sihr. This should be repeated several times. If it is recited by a believing, righteous reader who knows that everything is subject to the will and decree of Allaah, that Allaah is in control of all things, that when He says to a thing 'Be!' it is, if the reciting is based on faith, taqwa and sincerity, and is repeated several times, then the sihr may be removed and the person may recover by Allaah's Leave. Some of the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) passed by some Bedouins whose shaykh, i.e., their leader, had been bitten. They had done everything they could but he had not gotten better. They said to one of the Sahaabah, "Is there any raaqi (one who performs ruqyah) among you?" They said, "Yes." So one of them recited Soorat al-Faatihah over him, and he immediately got up full of energy as if nothing had happened; Allaah healed him of the ill-effects of that snakebite. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "There is nothing wrong with ruqyah so long as it does not involve shirk." He (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) performed ruqyah and had it performed for him. There is a lot of good in ruqyah, and a great deal of benefit. Al-Faatihah, Aayat al-Kursiy, "Qul Huwa Allaahu Ahad", al-Mi'wadhatayn and other aayahs may be recited over the person who has been affected by sihr, as well as good du'aa's narrated in the ahaadeeth from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), such as the du'aa' he said when he performed ruqyah for a sick person and said, "Allaahumma Rabb al-naas, adhhib il-ba's, washfi anta al-Shaafi laa shifaa'a illa shifaa'uka shifaa'an laa yughaadir saqaman (O Allaah, Lord of mankind, remove the harm and heal him, for You are the Healer and there is no healing except Your healing, with a healing which does not leave any disease behind)." This may be repeated three times or more. And it was also narrated from him (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) that Jibreel (peace be upon him) performed ruqyah for him and said three times: "Bismillaah arqeeka min kulli shay'in yu'dheeka, wa min sharri kulli nafsin aw 'aynin haasid Allaah yashfeek, bismillaah arqeek (In the name of Allaah I perform ruqyah for you, from every thing that is harming you, from the evil of every soul or envious eye may Allaah heal you, in the name of Allaah I perform ruqyah for you)." This is a great ruqyah which was narrated in a saheeh hadeeth from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). It is prescribed to perform ruqyah for the one who has been bitten or stung, and the one who has been affected by sihr, and the one who is sick. There is nothing wrong with performing ruqyah for one who is sick or has been affected by sihr or bitten or stung, by reciting good du'aa's, even if they were not transmitted from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), so long as they do not contain anything that is haraam, because of the general meaning of the hadeeth of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): "There is nothing wrong with ruqyah so long as it does not involve shirk."

Allaah may heal the sick person and the person affected by sihr, and others, without any ruqyah and without any action on the part of other people, because He is Able to do all things, and He is Wise in all that He does. Allaah says in His Holy Book:

"Verily, His Command, when He intends a thing, is only that He says to it, 'Be!' and it is!"[Yaa-Seen 36:82]

To Him be praise and thanks for all that He wills and decrees, for He is wise in all that He does.

The sick person may not be healed if his appointed time has come and it is decreed that he should die from this disease. Among the things that may be used in ruqyah are the verses which speak of sihr, which may be recited into water. These are the verses about sihr in Soorat al-A'raaf, where Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

"And We revealed to Moosa (saying): 'Throw your stick,' and behold! It swallowed up straight away all the falsehood which they showed.

Thus truth was confirmed, and all that they did was made of no effect.

So they were defeated there and returned disgraced

[al-A'raaf 7:117-119]

And in Soorat Yoonus (interpretation of the meaning):

"And Pharaoh said: 'Bring me every well-versed sorcerer.'

And when the sorcerers came, Moosa said to them: 'Cast down what you want to cast!'

Then when they had cast down, Moosa said: 'What you have brought is sorcery, Allaah will surely make it of no effect. Verily, Allaah does not set right the work of Al-Mufsidoon.

And Allaah will establish and make apparent the truth by His Words, however much the Mujrimoon may hate (it).'"

[Yoonus 10:79-82]

And in Soorat Ta-Ha (interpretation of the meaning):

"They said: 'O Moosa! Either you throw first or we be the first to throw?'

Moosa said: 'Nay, throw you (first)!' Then behold! their ropes and their sticks, by their magic, appeared to him as though they moved fast.

So Moosa conceived fear in himself.

We (Allaah) said: 'Fear not! Surely, you will have the upper hand.

And throw that which is in your right hand! It will swallow up that which they have made. That which they have made is only a magician's trick, and the magician will never be successful, to whatever amount (of skill) he may attain.'"

[Ta-Ha 20:65-69]

These aayahs are among the things by which Allaah causes the ruqyah against sihr to be beneficial. If the qaari' (reader) recites these verses into water, and also reads Soorat al-Faatiha, Aayat al-Kursiy, "Qul Huwa Allaahu Ahad", and al-Mi'wadhatayn into the water, then pours it over the person who he thinks has been affected by sihr or is being prevented by magic from having intercourse with his wife, then he will be healed by Allaah's Leave. If seven lotus leaves are ground up and added to the water as well, this is appropriate, as was mentioned by Shaykh 'Abd al-Rahmaan ibn Hasan (may Allaah have mercy on him) in Fath al-Majeed, quoting from some of the scholars in the chapter entitled Ma jaa'a fi'l-Nushrah. It is mustahabb to recite the three soorahs, namely Qul Huwa Allaahu Ahad, Qul A'oodhu bi Rabb il Falaq and Qul A'oodhu bi Rabb il-Naas. The point is that these and similar treatments which are used to treat this problem of sihr, may also be used to treat the one who is prevented by magic from having intercourse with his wife. This has been tried a great deal and Allaah caused it to yield results. A person may be treated with al-Faatihah alone and be healed, or with Qul Huwa Allaahu Ahad and al-Mi'wadhatayn on their own, and be healed. It is very important that the person performing this treatment and the person who is being treated should both have sincere faith and trust in Allaah; they should know that He is control of all things and that when He wills a thing it happens, and when He does not will a thing it does not happen. The matter is in His hand, whatever He wills happens and whatever He does not will does not happen. When both the reader and the one who is read over have faith and are sincere towards Allaah, the sickness will disappear quickly by Allaah's Leave, and both physical and spiritual medicine will be beneficial. We ask Allaah to help us all to please Him, for He is All-Hearing and is ever Near.


Majmoo' Fataawa wa Maqaalaat Mutanawwi'ah li Samaahat al-Shaykh al-'Allaamah 'Abd al-'Azeez ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him), p. 70
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Posted: 12 years ago
Ok its raining good news

We won the UMT poll for the best valentines couple ... AarYa won with max votes on poll SMS everything ... we hv defeated some of the best couples like Rishabala , RaYa , NakSh , Anandi-Shiv


CELEBRATIONS CELEBRATIONS CELEBRATIONS ... WE DID THE IMPOSSIBLE 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: jyoti06

Ok its raining good news

We won the UMT poll for the best valentines couple ... AarYa won with max votes on poll SMS everything ... we hv defeated some of the best couples like Rishabala , RaYa , NakSh , Anandi-Shiv


CELEBRATIONS CELEBRATIONS CELEBRATIONS ... WE DID THE IMPOSSIBLE 🥳


That is wonderful news indeed, Jyo. There were lots of girls who were voting day and night and tirelessly. So kudos to them. I am hoping we get a joint interview from ArYa, atleast that is what I thought we were voting for. 😆
And I know I am late to the party but very happy about the TRPs too.
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@Samana, Smiley, & Shobha: Thank you for your good wishes. My mother is better and recovering. 🤗

@Naeema: Lovely posts...👏



@Samana: Thanks... Yeah...you're right...PVSM connect is back with a bang...sabbatical or not! Just now read your superb analysis. 👏 You are right. The only times Aarti has panicked out of control is in front of Yash...during both the kidnappings and now when she thinks Yash's life is in danger. It's only when Yash and the kids face mortal danger that Aart panicks...Otherwise, she is quite the lady in control and proactive when any other family member or the family as a whole face a storm. Yash did seem pretty calm about the pictures and the lizard and the knife...I still feel that is because he doesn't want to raise the alarm yet, for Aarti's sake...especially she is already doing quite a lot of it herself. He is kind of trying to tone down her fear by passing on his calmness to her. Also, after having jumped to conclusions during Ansh's kidnapping regarding the CD, I feel Yash may be playing it safe this time and just waiting for that DNA report...even though his suspicions are raised after the lizard/knife scare. Having said that...you do have a point when you say why not take Aarti and the kids along to dargah...why go alone? Did CVs overlook that point in a bid to put Yash in danger so that Aarti follows and saves him yet again?😕



@TRPs: 🥳 🥳


@UMT Polls: 🥳 🥳 🥳 🥳 🥳
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