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Posted: 13 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: Gurtiluv

Another thing to take into account is the conversation of the suhag raat. Yash said he is not looking for physical relations but for her to be a mother to his daughters. If they do end up consumating before they in love. Than what was the point for the cvs to put this conversation in.



Maybe for it to be contradicted? There was always a flip-side to their reasons for marriage. ArYa married for their children. But I couldn't help but notice, that throughout their wedding, they were constantly being reminded, that before a joining of families, the connected started with the two of them.

Gayatri (immediatly after the ceremony) thanked Yash for bring home a mother for her two grandchildren. It was as if she realized, while watching these two people marry each other (with their kids being involved only minimally), that this marriage is essentially between a guy and a girl. She immediately tried to cover whatever ground she had lost with her son, by reminding him of his reason for marriage. But it was too late. The reason gets lost in translation, when two people embark on the reality of marriage.

They are two, like-minded, attractive, and compatible people. I just love how Prateek was the one to arrange this marriage. He saw someone who would be compatible with his brother, and went full-force ahead with it. He could have done this months before, with some other random single-mother, but he didn't. He truly wants his brother to be happy. And he saw the potential for that when Aarti chased him down the drive with a field-hockey stick 👏. Someone else mentioned how old-Yash was similar to Prateek now. I found it funny how Aarti kept on mistaking Yash for being a flirt, when he didn't intend anything like that. But ironically, he kind of is a flirt at heart. So its like, she got the wrong impression, for the short term, but the right impression, for the long term (ie: once he loves her, he will probably be exactly like that).

Yash is not looking for someone to meet his "zarooratein". What I took Yash's words to mean, was that he values love. And he places it before sex. But I don't think it means that Yash has no such needs, or that he views them in a bad way. Or that the two can not be connected. People in love can also lust after their loves. The emotions are often so intertwined, that its easy for someone to mistake lust for love (like Prashant and Aarti), or love for lust.
The latter is what I hope will happen for ArYa. Two people, going about their daily wedded life, and that includes having sex (maybe once, maybe regularly). But happily denying any love for each other, because neither wants to deal with their past pains.
And then out pops Prashant. And it becomes impossible for them not to deal with it. I would love that. But yeah, I am holding out very little hope for such a track. This is an indian "family" show (ridiculous btw, what families watch condom scenes together?? lol), and they probably won't go there. I would just love it if they did.



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Posted: 13 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: iMadz

Thank GOD! 😉


I have had enough of SATI-SAVITRI take on sex on almost ALL the shows .. Mostly they are NON-REAL for this thing only! 🤢


Tell me, who will not consummate their wedding even after YEARS and MONTHS of Marriage ..? Do they live in SOME "Baba Aadam's Jamana" ? 😆 Or What ? They behave like its the BIGGEST SIN of the world .. Oh My GOSH .. I expected this from PV too but your post gave me some HOPE .. But still I don't think so .. Coz I can't TRUST any damn Indian shows when it comes to sex and BOLD scenes .. 🤢

yeah i too agree with you it is a high time to show the real deal than playing the sati savitri . woman now are way more faster than previous generation. there is nothing wrong in sex. its the way of life and man and women are made to enjoy and explore this natures gift. so hoping arya to consummate their relation sooner.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#23
Some really amazing discussion 👏👏..had a wonderful time reading it all 👏..its good to see such matured discussions in a forum ...glad that PV forum has such good creative people ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
I feel lust ,desire ,passion ,sexual tension ,physical intimacy are all part of Love only along with other factors such as trust ,understanding and compatibility ... So its not a sin if u r lusting over your partner with whom u r madly in love ...
Yash and Aarti both r good looking ,young attractive people ...so its normal to feel the desire and sexual tension for each other after a certain point when 24/7 they will b sharing the same room 😛...Its the initial phase of love and from here on the emotional bonding and mental attachment takes place ..
In Yash-Aarti's case I can already see a certain connection between both ..their eye-to-eye talk , then the way both r trying to interact via humour ,then the way both r taking joint decisions like chking the bed and all ...they hv already developed a connection and so the next phase of attraction and desire is natural ,..its no sin and I would love to see CVs breaking the whole myth of one cannot consummate without confession thing and do it the other way around ..consummate and then confess ..😉😛...
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Posted: 13 years ago
#24

Everyone is probably annoyed with me right now because maybe I am the only one that feels this way. But I really don't want the consummation to come too soon. Maybe I would not mind if it were to take place sometime when they have developed a strong understanding and friendship. I feel once you have had sex with someone who have already shared your most intimate part with them so they feel there is nothing more about you to explore. I learned this in psychology class but studies have suggested that couples that wait later rather than sooner to get intimate have more fulfilling and long lasting relationships.

I feel that one of the essential elements lacking in BOTH the Arpita- Yash, and Prashant-Aarti relationships that it was too centered on lust and infatuation. Yash fell for Arpita's looks in a picture or in other words was sexually attracted to her and therefore decided to marry her. We saw physical intimacy in the Prashant and Aarti relationship. "What seems to happen is that if couples become sexual too early, this very rewarding area of the relationship overwhelms good decision-making and keeps couples in a relationship that might not be the best for them in the long-run," study researcher Dean Busby, of Brigham Young University's School of Family Life, told LiveScience.

Early sex can deprive a relationship from communication and understanding of one another on a personal level. That is why the ideal situation for me is for Yash and Aarti to consummate after falling in love and develop strong understanding. Go head throw all jootis and chapels at me for my regressive thought process.

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Posted: 13 years ago
#25
ya ArYa words n actions differs, by this mrg n SR they managed to show traditions, believes n practical side too. i think aarti's frd saying abt man is practical ofc all men are not alike but wat she said abt men to aarti is right abt most men in reality n it's practical too. abt consummation it will be in middle when they fell in love not very early r too late may be as they r showing,lets see wat cvs has in store for us.
Edited by Savz_uniqueblis - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: Gurtiluv

Everyone is probably annoyed with me right now because maybe I am the only one that feels this way. But I really don't want the consummation to come too soon. Maybe I would not mind if it were to take place sometime when they have developed a strong understanding and friendship. I feel once you have had sex with someone who have already shared your most intimate part with them so they feel there is nothing more about you to explore. I learned this in psychology class but studies have suggested that couples that wait later rather than sooner to get intimate have more fulfilling and long lasting relationships.

I feel that one of the essential elements lacking in BOTH the Arpita- Yash, and Prashant-Aarti relationships that it was too centered on lust and infatuation. Yash fell for Arpita's looks in a picture or in other words was sexually attracted to her and therefore decided to marry her. We saw physical intimacy in the Prashant and Aarti relationship. "What seems to happen is that if couples become sexual too early, this very rewarding area of the relationship overwhelms good decision-making and keeps couples in a relationship that might not be the best for them in the long-run," study researcher Dean Busby, of Brigham Young University's School of Family Life, told LiveScience.

Early sex can deprive a relationship from communication and understanding of one another on a personal level. That is why the ideal situation for me is for Yash and Aarti to consummate after falling in love and develop strong understanding. Go head throw all jootis and chapels at me for my regressive thought process.



lol no chappals, I promise. So far no one has posted anything opposing, so this is good. I like a little debate😃 Keeps me sane ⭐️

But yeah, I understand where you're coming from. That lust blinds a person and prevents them from making good decisions. Its just that, I see that as supporting sex earlier, rather than later.
Here me out first 😆. See, a person is initially attracted towards someone. Then they get to know the person and see if they want to spend more time with the person, right? But I don't see how prolonging a physical relationship (ie: not sating that lust), in any way makes the couple's cerebral connection better. If anything, the frustration (and physical attraction) probably blinds them both to realities of the other that they would not otherwise like.

I read somewhere (don't ask were lol), that a guy (and some women too) need to get their sexual attraction under wraps (ie: get a little action) before they are able to register anything beyond the physical appeal of that person. Aarti and Prashant completely illustrate this situation for me. Both mistook lust for love. Why? Because they live in a world (and society) that values sex after marriage, and so they probably waited. Only to realize, after marriage, that what they shared wasn't love. I'm not preaching promiscuity. I'm simply saying, that if you think you love someone, and you are of an age and maturity to handle the repercussions of sex, then why not? And with ArYa, well, they're married, so there's not even a stigma to deal with.

There's one thing I got to disagree with though. I don't think that once a couple has had sex, that they've shared their most intimate selves. Its the emotions you reveal during sex that creates the intimacy (or the lack of it). There is plenty to explore after having sex. There's a whole soul to know.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#27
Well I prefer there be a soul connection first. Because that just makes intimacy all that more meaningful. If you have already been intimate with some one before hand than what would be the difference in the relationship after you have fallen in love. You can be physically attracted to many people but would you be intimate with all of them. Why should your soul and your body be treated differently? If soul connection takes time than bodily connection can wait.
Edited by Gurtiluv - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: Gurtiluv

Well I prefer there be a soul connection first. Because that just makes intimacy all that more meaningful. If you have already been intimate with some one before hand than what would be the difference in the relationship after you have fallen in love. You can be physically attracted to many people but would you be intimate with all of them. Why should your soul and your body be treated differently? If soul connection takes time than bodily connection can wait.



Totally agree. But I was getting at, is that you start with a connection (of souls), are in the journey of loving and getting to know someone, have sex, and then continue to get to know them and their souls. It would be a little saddening to think that once you've had sex with someone, you've shared all you are with them.

I'm not saying that ArYa should jump each other right now ⭐️ (although that is always fun 😆), but that I would be completely for a relationship that doesn't have sex as its final and ultimate step in love. I prefer it as a step along the way, which is how it is in real life. Many parents continue to get to know each other, and continue to build on their connection, decades after they've had their children.
Edited by Charishma - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#29
Even I have said I wouldn't mind if it came some time before their confession. But the must be some what of a understanding and soul connectio between them first. It doesnt have to be completely love.
Edited by Gurtiluv - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Great posts and thanks for reminding us of the different times physical relationship has been hinted at in the show. The one that made me happy to watch as a viewer was when Shobha talked to Arti about sex. Great to see a mature conversation from a ma-in-law. and of course, the wedding night funny debacle was a treat to watch as well. I am pleasantly surprised to see PV not being shy of addressing this issue.

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