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Posted: 13 years ago
#81

Past present and future ...GC nailed it with his 3 different expression 👏👏

Past ..happiness and bliss
Present ...Anger and Frustation
Future (he runs behind Aarti for kangan😉)..Confusion and lost memories
Edited by jyoti06 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: jyoti06

Updated my take on Pg 1 ..all read it plss ./.

Some very important points to ponder 😊
1)Yash hates lies ..hmmm 😉..In future will he hate Aarti for the biggest lie about herself ??
2)Name change ..yes it happens ...among Muslims its common ...as per my friend ,its almost compulsary among Maharashtrians in Mumbai and even today in many rural places after marriage name is changed as per the Sasural's wish ..
Only debate is whether giving first wife ka name to second wife is fair or not 🤔...it is unfair and if Yash and Aarti successfully protests against it ,then CVs can actually send in a strong message to all those families who r actually following this rule in India to change a girl's name after marriage ...😊
3) Kangan Symbolism proves Aarti will remain Aarti forever :thanks to Samana ka superb take 👏👏 ..I just noticed the fact that Aarti is trying to detach her chunari from kangan and is successful in the end which is an indication that Aarti will never allow herself to become Arpita's shadow but will maintain her own identity ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️...Arpita's mom tried to bind her forcibly giving that kangan of Arpita ,but Aarti will detach herself from Arpita's shadown and will remain Aarti forever 😃

sorry, i disagree with you regarding the name changing custom among muslims...i am a muslim..i can say with 100% confidence that there is no such rule in islam...may be its practiced in a few regions...but its not a muslim custom...
haven't seen the episode yet...but already feeling low about the whole name-changing drama...honestly, i think, its unnecessary...the situation is already too complicated...hope,this fiasco will get over soon...
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Posted: 13 years ago
#83
I just finished watching the epi online plus have been following around the forum much heated discussion abt the epi..

I knw all members have their own take on the epi.. But I just want to share my views on the haldi and name changing issues.. with tht Haldi ceremony, Trust me guys I felt sooo bad for Shoba and Arati..wat Imean is how could Gayatri just bring Arpita's mom and claim her to have right to apply the haldi first on Arati.. Tht was so unreasonable.. I seriously felt sooo bad for Shova.. Though she didn't say a word but her eyes spoke volumes.. even she had so many dreams and hopes regarding Arati's marriage afterall she was the one to support the marriage at first place..Ohhh tht was just too unfair on her😭.. And Gayatri's face seemed like she've achieved her mission.. I do feel a lot for Arpita's mom but shouldn't she think abt Shobha here as well 😕.. afterall they are mothers.. I knw she's still grieving over Arpita's death but I just couldn't take it 😔..

In addittion, the name changing thing.. I m really sorry guys but I just want to ask is there really tht kind of ritual?? (Sorry if tht sounds rude but I am not being offensive or anything but its just tht I m not Indian and I really don't know much abt the rituals...) But even though its a ritual, I really couldn't take it positively (My sincere apologies if it hurts certain members in the forum).. the way everyone saying Arati tht she's the place because of Arpita and how she is expected to make herself similar to Arpita just doesn't seem right to me.. And yes remarrying doesn't mean loosing your identity and existence.. Arati has lived with that identity until now but her remarriage seems to have shaken her own existence.. I like the fact tht how Yash was resisting Arati to give Arpita's identity.. And one thing I can't get is why does Arpita mom wants Arati to change as her daughter.. should she not think of Arati's preference as well.. she just seems to be blindly showering her love to Arati claiming her to be Arapita in future but not trying to understand her😕.. I knw she has longed for one ever since she lost Arpita but does it even make sense by giving a person completely new identity and make them forget their own existence..🤔

Edited by limbu.simmy - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@sns23: I think I have an explanation for why the Dubeys are doing what they are doing. For one thing as many discussed already, they are extremely guilty of what their son did to her and want to fix that mistake ASAP. That is the reason for the PV in the first place, along with the fact that they do genuinely love the girl like a daughter and want her life to be blissful and brimming with all things good, because she is a good kid and has been through a lot what with her losing her parents and then her husband.

Now, the reason for this PV is Yash and the Scindia parivaar, though the latter reason is crumbling now. In Yash they see someone who is worthy of their daughter and they know how rare it is to find that, given all of the harrowing PV-hunting experiences they have had. Yash is righteous (as proved by the overheard phone conversation), from a respectable family, young, successful, etc but most importantly he shares Aarti's need for his kids' other parent. Now Shobha may not know that that is the only reason but she does know that it is one of them and maybe she feels like they can bond over their respective tragic pasts and rebuild.

Finally, I think she is less vocal than she would be otherwise because she is cowering under the guilt of the BIG LIE. Anything the Dubeys demand seems justified because she is cheating them in such a big way but also wants this marraige to happen at any cost because lord knows when another man of Yash's calibre from a respected, well-off family is going to come knocking at their door!

It is another story that the Scindias are nowhere near as seedha sadha as they once seemed, but I think Shobha is convincing herself to grit her teeth and make this happen for Aarti and Ansh as well as to lighten her own load of guilt by her son's abandonment. This mirrors the dialogue that she said yesterday that she felt like a burden had been lifted off her after Aarti knew the truth. Clearly somewhere, this is about the Dubeys too.

Oh and where are my manners?

Welcome to the AU! 🤗
Edited by Samanalyse - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Nightstarr and 123mitul :When I said muslims ..I meant a hindu-muslim marriage where a hindu girl's name is being changed to a muslim one ...there was a friend of mine who had to change her name to marry a muslim guy ..so I made that reference 😳...
@Nightstarr :One interesting point in your take that if at all her name is changed ,then it means in future ,Yash himself will change it back to Aarti and make an announcement that Aarti is not a replacement of anyone but his wife who has her own identity in this house 😳😳
@Angake :I said the same about Dubeys that they r actually guilty of their son leaving Aarti and so somewhere they r desperate to get her married again and become guilt free but in this process they might end up damaging her life further with this lie
Edited by jyoti06 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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About the name changing ritual ../to b honest every ritual is questionable in our society as every ritual has its own share of flaws ...no ritual is perfect ,.but people blindly follow rituals as per their own convenience and beliefs
Name changing ritual is nothing new...its a common thing ...what is objectionable is how much its human to give the name of a dead person to someone who is alive and about to get married ...thats the cruel part and mayb CVs r hopefully going to show Aarti protesting against this ritual 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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If Shobha uses Ansh again as blackmail to get Aarti to change her name, I will be so angry. The sad thing is that this is probably what is going to happen. Shobha knows she can get Aarti to dance naked in a pit of snakes if she so much as mentions Ansh's wants.

But If Aarti keeps giving in like this for Ansh she is going to lose herself and begin resenting even the poor child. She will take it out on him when he is older and the vicious cycle of blackmail will go on and on.

Yash better say no changing Aarti's name tomorrow itself. Otherwise be ready for a formidable verbal tirade from yours truly! 😡

Anyhoo, on that happy note, I am off to bed. 😃

Happy discussing, all!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Article from TT ...very interesting ...cant post it full as the website is not allowed on IF ..so just a part of it 😳

Additi Gupta is going to dance to five item songs for Yash and Prateek's bachelor party in Punar Vivah. She is going to dance to the hit dance numbers – anarkali disco chali, pal pal mane tinku jiya, subah hone na de, hoth rasile tere hota rasile and one more song.

The bachelor's party will be in full swing when Yash too will finally start dancing on his brothers' insistence and that's when Paridhi, Mansi will gate crash spoiling the fun for the guys. 😆 They will also drag Aarti with them to the party by lieng to her. 😲 The girls too will then join the guys in the masti. 😛 Some situation will arise such that Yash will have to lift Aarti to save her from embarrassment but Aarti will continue to think wrong about Yash.

They better talk now after the bachelar party 😡..which I think they will 😉😛
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Now that my freak-out over the proposed name change is over...😆

The one person who is really going to suffer from this punar-vivaah (in the short-term, one hopes) is Aarti. Don't get me wrong, I feel for Yash too. But Aarti is going to have to live with Arpita's ghost, live with the hostility of her in-laws (esp. once they find out about the divorce), live with the hostility of her in-laws to Ansh, live with the resistance of the girls' to herself and Ansh, live with Yash's rejection of her as a person and as a woman (she might not feel this as a woman because Yash means nothing to her either, but, how can she not feel it as a person? esp. after being rejected by Prashant? ...does that make any sense?)...

Anyway, can there be any more blows to her sense of self? (not even going to imagine a name change here)...





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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sns23


Over the past few episodes and now especially after today, I have been asking myself just one question - What is wrong with the Dubey's? I understand that the want to see Aarti settled and all and that Yash is a great guy - but haven't they seen how the rest of the Scindia's more importantly - how unforgivably nasty Gayatri is? Why are they so hell bent on getting their daughter married into the family ? To an extent that they even lied for it.. Maybe I'm beating a dead horse, but this I feel is the root cause of all the problems, misunderstanding. They are so desperate to get this done with that they have made themselves so very gullible and susceptible that now, they themselves have been delegated to the sidelines. Had they been a little more firm in their stance/stand, they could have voiced an objection to the 'Aarti is Arpitha resurrected' ideology.. I find it very difficult to accept submissiveness to this extent on their part.


Dubey's I think are trying to correct the wrong their son has committed against Aarthi by their son Prashant . They feel personally liable for giving birth to a specimen like P who was spineless and dumped her after marrying and left her pregnant. They are principled middle class people for whom respect is all important. Their blood has committed such a sin..that they will lay flat on the floor to get redemption. It may seem gullible...but they cannot back out after coming so far..Another public humiliation if the wedding stops would create a setback they would never recover from. Aarthi and Ansh's future and security is what is paramount now..And Shobha seems to believe Yash is a just and principled man after the first impression she got. May befool's hope...still it is a hope.😳
Edited by SylvaniaLUX - 13 years ago

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