Precap - End of fairy tale

damon_biteme

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Originally posted by: HamiSky
KC,

I dont think so..she loves him with all her heart..she is very much in love..no doubt on that.

But being jsut goody goody is not goin to do anything..n husband wife realtionship doesnt work that way..... in fact as Tanth pointed out she has kept her feeling withing strictures so that she doesnt hurt him or he doesnt feel low..

That is my point when u love someone and know the person is wrong u don't just keep quiet because u don't want to hurt him infact u keep trying, thats what i wld do. And if the person is not convinced then i would be angry and make sure it has upset me. It conveys the feeling that u care about the person. Prats shows anger and temprament at all the wrong junctures. When they have discussions about anything and she is worried about hurting him she says 'Khair chodo koi aur baat kartein hain'. U only aviod the topic or gear the convo into a different direction if u don't care enough about the person. Again what irks me doesn't the person you love POV bother u if u believ he or she is wrong.

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MERARAI

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Originally posted by: krishna_chalbo

That is my point when u love someone and know the person is wrong u don't just keep quiet because u don't want to hurt him infact u keep trying, thats what i wld do. And if the person is not convinced then i would be angry and make sure it has upset me. It conveys the feeling that u care about the person. Prats shows anger and temprament at all the wrong junctures. When they have discussions about anything and she is worried about hurting him she says 'Khair chodo koi aur baat kartein hain'. U only aviod the topic or gear the convo into a different direction if u don't care enough about the person. Again what irks me doesn't the person you love POV bother u if u believ he or she is wrong.

Even if Prats is deeply in love with Krishna they are both still trying to understand each others cues to express that love. Prats doesn't want to rock the boat at times when she should try to express and explain where she is coming from with out too many baashans. He listens to her so why not choose times when he is receptive to some suggestions right after the family taunts him or her to address the issue not as something he should do but something they need to address. When Amma said no food, she should have said we need to think of a way to be independent as a couple and not depend on his family to support them.

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Originally posted by: krishna_chalbo
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DG one line that struck me here is understood what it really means to love. I wrote a post in reply to your previous post iand added my comments to Tanths comment about the way she interacts with Baba. Read it and let me know what u think. U say she is in love with him but why don't i get the feel. The fact that she continues to be haughty and arrogant with very little consideration as to what critical position she is putting her husband with all her actions. Does she treat him as her equal or someone beneath her. I always get this feeling or it could be just me

Hi KC😊

Umm...I will go and look at the comment, and respond to it.

With regards to the above, I too often get the feeling that though she cares, it may not be the deep love that we think it should be. I really get irritated when she runs off with an idea, does not even pause and think about her husband - that will show the love. Often, he is like an afterthought. I think the writers and creators are to blame, they will mainly do things from her POV.

The thing is, there is so many types of love. There is the besotted, passionate and almost dark love. There is the love where each is so polite and formal with one another, then the love where the feeling is warm, tepid but it suits the people involved, the love where one has a upper hand over the other....and many more. But each person does bring their own expectation in it, only in rare cases is it a total 50/50 with each putting the other above themselves. I too get the feeling that she often thinks she is better than him, that she and her family are always right. So I think this love she has for him is the one where she has the upper hand in the relationship.

I think P finds a lifetime of being independent, the one her family relies on and seeks advice from, very hard to throw off. That is why she is like this, where her inherent personality takes over even though she loves K but she see's nothing wrong with doing things her own way. To us and many, that seem's wrong at times. To her it isn't wrong to do what she wants, he should support her as she is his wife.

The fact cannot be denined, she has been manipluative in the past, using his love for her to have her own way. She treated him like rubbish but expected things her own way, he gave in. I recall the scene in july, when K find out about P putting Angad in jail and he was upset so he had go at her in front of his family....in their room she is crying and saying 'at least you should have supported me as I'm your wife'....he immediately was 'so now u want me to support you...when it suits you, you remember I am your husband'.....I think the writes wanted to show that she is using him, that she has this streak....just the episode b4 she ordered him out of her parents home!...She put him in a difficult position by insisting in releasing her father from prison, yet all she could see was 'me and mine only' and not his grief or tension she was putting him through......

She is clever, often more than Krish at times, especially when it comes to his family. From my own viewpoint, she has used him in the past and even now is using him in a way - her ziddi is tearing him apart from a family that he is not ready to do so at the moment. I believe he would have eventually come to it in his own conclusion...it has speeded up because of what she had 'sown and now reaping'...

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damon_biteme

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Even if Prats is deeply in love with Krishna they are both still trying to understand each others cues to express that love. Prats doesn't want to rock the boat at times when she should try to express and explain where she is coming from with out too many baashans. He listens to her so why not choose times when he is receptive to some suggestions right after the family taunts him or her to address the issue not as something he should do but something they need to address. When Amma said no food, she should have said we need to think of a way to be independent as a couple and not depend on his family to support them.

Okay if u say so i will give her the benifit of doubt as u r an expert with years of reading M&B😉
But u do agree they need to be addressed and u said it right address them just look out for the correct time. Fine example given by u after the food incidence she had a nice opportunity but not utilised properly. You cannot just give up and leave things the way they are. do it at the right time as it will show some respect towards your partner. I believe love and respect go hand in hand. U can't love someone if you don't respect him. All her actions till now don't show respect towards him.

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damon_biteme

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Originally posted by: Dreamygal301

Hi KC😊

Umm...I will go and look at the comment, and respond to it.

With regards to the above, I too often get the feeling that though she cares, it may not be the deep love that we think it should be. I really get irritated when she runs off with an idea, does not even pause and think about her husband - that will show the love. Often, he is like an afterthought. I think the writers and creators are to blame, they will mainly do things from her POV.

The thing is, there is so many types of love. There is the besotted, passionate and almost dark love. There is the love where each is so polite and formal with one another, then the love where the feeling is warm, tepid but it suits the people involved, the love where one has a upper hand over the other....and many more. But each person does bring their own expectation in it, only in rare cases is it a total 50/50 with each putting the other above themselves. I too get the feeling that she often thinks she is better than him, that she and her family are always right. So I think this love she has for him is the one where she has the upper hand in the relationship.

I think P finds a lifetime of being independent, the one her family relies on and seeks advice from, very hard to throw off. That is why she is like this, where her inherent personality takes over even though she loves K but she see's nothing wrong with doing things her own way. To us and many, that seem's wrong at times. To her it isn't wrong to do what she wants, he should support her as she is his wife.

The fact cannot be denined, she has been manipluative in the past, using his love for her to have her own way. She treated him like rubbish but expected things her own way, he gave in. I recall the scene in july, when K find out about P putting Angad in jail and he was upset so he had go at her in front of his family....in their room she is crying and saying 'at least you should have supported me as I'm your wife'....he immediately was 'so now u want me to support you...when it suits you, you remember I am your husband'.....I think the writes wanted to show that she is using him, that she has this streak....just the episode b4 she ordered him out of her parents home!...She put him in a difficult position by insisting in releasing her father from prison, yet all she could see was 'me and mine only' and not his grief or tension she was putting him through......

She is clever, often more than Krish at times, especially when it comes to his family. From my own viewpoint, she has used him in the past and even now is using him in a way - her ziddi is tearing him apart from a family that he is not ready to do so at the moment. I believe he would have eventually come to it in his own conclusion...it has speeded up because of what she had 'sown and now reaping'...

See i believe that we always want to do what is right but when situation arises where we have to make a decsion act we first think how it will affect my loved ones. What impact it will have on their lives and then we act. Its not that she doesn't do it everytime,Prats has shown this trait when she deals with her family. For example when Shaktia harassed Aarushi her reaction was don't tell papa and mummy as it will cause them unecssary stress, which I understand but why is such a thgt not given about Krishna when she acts. Does she ever contemplate b4 jumping into actions wait this will put Krishna in a critical situation so lets just consult him. Funny bit is if she did it after a few opposition Baba will give in and support her. All we see is she seeking sympathy from Kesar telling that I am aware that Krishna's life has become hell because of me and i am sad abt it.

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MERARAI

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Originally posted by: krishna_chalbo

Even if Prats is deeply in love with Krishna they are both still trying to understand each others cues to express that love. Prats doesn't want to rock the boat at times when she should try to express and explain where she is coming from with out too many baashans. He listens to her so why not choose times when he is receptive to some suggestions right after the family taunts him or her to address the issue not as something he should do but something they need to address. When Amma said no food, she should have said we need to think of a way to be independent as a couple and not depend on his family to support them.

Okay if u say so i will give her the benifit of doubt as u r an expert with years of reading M&B😉
But u do agree they need to be addressed and u said it right address them just look out for the correct time. Fine example given by u after the food incidence she had a nice opportunity but not utilised properly. You cannot just give up and leave things the way they are. do it at the right time as it will show some respect towards your partner. I believe love and respect go hand in hand. U can't love someone if you don't respect him. All her actions till now don't show respect towards him.

See, you get it even without teh years of reading M& B. My personal opinion is that respect comes before love. I question..........can Prats claim to love Baba while she stands by quietly and say nothing to him, to stand up to defend his self respect when the family taunts him unfairly. Can she just stand by and watch him be treated this way? As a couple they should be protecting each other's respect. Krishna does that to his family, she has not yet stood up for him to his family or hers. For someone who stands up for the right, why didn't she ask Takurain " he is your child, why would you refuse to feed him, I can understand your reluctance to feed me but he is your flesh and blood".

I am looking forward to how she handles his rage come Friday. his eyes did seem to register her reaction and tone down some at one point.

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damon_biteme

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Originally posted by: MERARAI

See, you get it even without teh years of reading M& B. My personal opinion is that respect comes before love. I question..........can Prats claim to love Prats while she stands by quietly and say nothing to him to stand up to defend his self respect when the family taunts him unfairly. Can she just stand by and watch him be treated this way? As a couple they should be protecting each other's respect. Krishna does that to his family, she has not yet stood up for him to his family or hers. For someone who stands up for the right, why didn't she ask Takurain " he is your child, why would you refuse to feed him, I can understand your reluctance to feed me but he is your flesh and blood".

I am looking forward to how she handles his rage come Friday. his eyes did seem to register her reaction and tone down some at one point.

Me learning from the expert😉. OMG Mera u have hit it bang on spot. She can argue with her inlaws for Kesar but meekly watches the insult they shoot at him. I mean if u have the guts to open ypur mouth in front of such junglees for a helpless woman why can't u stand up and speak for your man u claim to love. I mean when he decided to drink the ganga jal why didn't she say no u won't do it. u don't need to succumb to their demands i haven't done anything wrong haven't so u done anything wrong as according to u we r one so stop it. She was just in awe and just staring at him. I know probably Amma would't have given up but that wld give a united front

Me too waiting for the monday episode.

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MERARAI

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Posted: 14 years ago

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Originally posted by: krishna_chalbo

Even if Prats is deeply in love with Krishna they are both still trying to understand each others cues to express that love. Prats doesn't want to rock the boat at times when she should try to express and explain where she is coming from with out too many baashans. He listens to her so why not choose times when he is receptive to some suggestions right after the family taunts him or her to address the issue not as something he should do but something they need to address. When Amma said no food, she should have said we need to think of a way to be independent as a couple and not depend on his family to support them.

Okay if u say so i will give her the benifit of doubt as u r an expert with years of reading M&B😉
But u do agree they need to be addressed and u said it right address them just look out for the correct time. Fine example given by u after the food incidence she had a nice opportunity but not utilised properly. You cannot just give up and leave things the way they are. do it at the right time as it will show some respect towards your partner. I believe love and respect go hand in hand. U can't love someone if you don't respect him. All her actions till now don't show respect towards him.

Love comes after respect. Why didn't she question why they didn't teach him responsibility to fend for himself as a man? KN does why not him? You have spoiled him rotten in the name of love Takurain hates her already what 's one more reason to add to it?

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Originally posted by: MERARAI

Love comes after respect. Takurain refused food to Baba, that was a good time to say "he is your flesh and blood, I can understand you not wanting to feed me but why are you refusing him food. Why haven't you made him responsible for fending for himself. Takurain hates her already what 's one more reason to add to it?

Do u think it can be generalised beacause we first love our parents and then learn to respect them. I can understand if u respect someone u can fall in love but what if u fall in love with a person like Baba fell don't u think in this case respect will follow if the love is genuine

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Originally posted by: krishna_chalbo

Love comes after respect. Takurain refused food to Baba, that was a good time to say "he is your flesh and blood, I can understand you not wanting to feed me but why are you refusing him food. Why haven't you made him responsible for fending for himself. Takurain hates her already what 's one more reason to add to it?

Do u think it can be generalised beacause we first love our parents and then learn to respect them. I can understand if u respect someone u can fall in love but what if u fall in love with a person like Baba fell don't u think in this case respect will follow if the love is genuine

My understanding is that what we call love is expressed as admiration and respect. Children learn how to admire, respect and love by reciprocity from their parents and adults around them starting at birth.

In Baba's case there was already admiration for Prats when he watched her handle that puppy. Admiration and attraction were the beginnings of love for him. His upbringing got in the way when it came to expressing his respect but he is learning it is not expressed in vile ways like the Takurs do.

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