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Posted: 15 years ago
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Krishna Fans:

I know we have been very frustrated with the portrayal of the Krishna character lately and especially because we see so little of him (almost like a breath of fresh air in a suksena claustrophobic chamber) in epis these days.


Anyways, I have been thinking about his character (because you know Krish is so endearing) and while I would prefer a 100% of the old Krishna I can still understand this Krishna's predicament, his actions and his circumstances.

From what I have seen, Men are simple minded creatures. Way easier to understand than women. They are pragmatic and do not like to take unnecessary stress, they find it difficult to multi-task, they cannot handle unnecessary frustration or games of any kind, they see things in black and white with limited to non-existent shades of grey because any grey shades would require analysis and that is not their favourite pastime, they love peace of mind, being nurtured by their spouses and more importantly feeling like kings of their castle. today we saw how he did not like being treated like a upset child by his wife. he wants to be understood as a person not tricked with treats.


Men and women react differently to deep-rooted emotional pain and betrayal. Men become like puppies when they are hurting aggressive and reactive and women become like kittens when they are hurt, vicious and sensitive to any overtures. it is this disparity in our most basic of emotions and reactions that making us interesting and frustrating to the opposite gender.

Look at our baba. Very indulgent and protective (a typical loving husband) in general but I have noticed that this facet of his personality comes to the forefront and is glaringly obvious more so when he and his wife live by themselves (like in the adda) rather than when they live among others (like in Thakur Nivas). This is because as I said men find it difficult to multi-task, they do not know how to balance the responsibilities and priorities that come with the roles of son and husband at the same time and this causes them stress and in turn they fall short in fulfilling one role. This becomes worse when the wife is indifferent or unapprecative or oblivious to their genuine intentions and efforts (like Pratigya).

That is what is happening with Baba. Today baba expressed that simple minded frustration. he is not as clueless as he seems, just being pulled in multiple directions. he feels frustrated as a son, dejected as a husband and rejected as a person. What happens next, he goes into protective mode. Offense rather than defensive.


For the most part I do not see him as a henpecked spouse but as a man reporting to two heads and demonstrating a strong preference towards one rather than the other. I probably would have seen him as a wimp if he was living independently and still lived by his mom and dad's rules or if inspite of staying with his parents as a dependant he was not trying to look for a balanced solution in trying to be a loyal son yet appease his wife. So far, he is trying hard to fulfil both these roles while working on his relationship with his wife which is an unwanted third element.

Today I felt so bad for him. Guys he has reached his breaking point (honestly I am surprised it took him this long) and all that's left to be seen is if drops two of the three hats or all hats and justs withdraws from the situation on all fronts so that he can sit back and lick his wounds.


I did not like the precap. I am feeling so bad that he has been driven to this level of frustration. This is not our baba. he has waited/ abstained for monthsand tried the love route to waste all that effort and end it in this manner???? Honestly CVs I would rather see him divorce than do something hurtful to her because then he would never be able to forgive himself and neither would we.


Anyways that's my thoughts. What do you think?


Hope😃

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Posted: 15 years ago
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I really don't think its that men can't multi-task. It's just being a guy myself, I know how hard it is, to balance out the different roles of son, father and spouse. You can't do it all at once, since they're all looking for different things. It's not a question of like eating an apple while combing your hair. You need to completely change your behaviour whichever role your in.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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his parents r ruining his marital life ! they want to dominate him n his life but can't understand his love ! they r using him ! many ways like, ss is using him n his marital life for elections ,amma is using him for her dominance over d house n to conrol her bahoo n she can share his son wid her bahoo!wat d hell wid dese parents? buch of hypocrites n crooks!infact sajjan nivas is the house of mads n deads where no hope for freedom n love!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nayak29

I really don't think its that men can't multi-task. It's just being a guy myself, I know how hard it is, to balance out the different roles of son, father and spouse. You can't do it all at once, since they're all looking for different things. It's not a question of like eating an apple while combing your hair. You need to completely change your behaviour whichever role your in.



Men don't know how to juggle these roles. They need to consider which role takes precedence in their lives. In their growing years they establish their roles as son. Moms more than Dads get used to it. Dads understand what their sons go through when they get married. They have been there done that. Some Dads step in to stave off the interfering saas to help the son along.šŸ‘

The son is now a husband, may be expected to continue to please his mother like he used to while learning to co-exist as a spouse and strengthen his bond in his marriage. Most of the time the father and son let the women work it out. But sometimes a jealous or demanding mother can make things difficult for the bahu. That' when the guy needs to re-evaluate whom he needs to support. A smart man knows taking his Mom's side will put him in the dog house for some timešŸ˜› till he learns to work things out with the spouse. Once the father's role begins both husband and wife will need to put their child front and center while keeping their marriage alive and well in the background.

Guys who can juggle these roles succesfully all their lives should be applauded.šŸ‘
My Pati Parameswar is one such person. šŸ˜‰šŸ˜³šŸ˜ƒ
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hope,

I think you have hit the nail on the head. While it is painful for me to see this portrayal of Krishna, I am not sure how many alternatives he has in how to react - and seems doomed to be misunderstood and taken advantage of by his wife - who has really made very little effort to support or even to understand her husband

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hope,

You have beautifully analysed Krishna's state of mind and his emotional turmoil...šŸ‘ šŸ‘ šŸ‘ for you...

Today he was questioned on his loyalty to his parents and asked his rationality to go behind a girl who openly condemned him and who openly works against the welfare of the family (as they see it)...

What could have been his answer? LOVE? But how could he claim there is LOVE when people are openly mocking his relationship and his very own lady announcing in public there is no such thing...

He answered to the question of his loyalty that he will be behind 'Singhs' always and will do anything to make him a winner...But he didn't have any answer to the question of his unconditional support for Pratigya so blindly (as they see it...)

On top of that, he has no explanation for Pratigya's behavior because he is so unaware of the cause for Pratigya's behavior (or change in the behavior)...

I think Krishna wants a quick and tangible proof of Pratigya's loyalty to him...and what is the best proof than consummation...?
'Doodh ka Doodh...Paani Ka Paani..." It all depends on Pratigya's answer tomorrow...

From, story point of view, When the truth comes out, it is this incident which acts as a crucial point for Krishna to make his decision...


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: rightchoice

Hope,

You have beautifully analysed Krishna's state of mind and his emotional turmoil...šŸ‘ šŸ‘ šŸ‘ for you...

Today he was questioned on his loyalty to his parents and asked his rationality to go behind a girl who openly condemned him and who openly works against the welfare of the family (as they see it)...

What could have been his answer? LOVE? But how could he claim there is LOVE when people are openly mocking his relationship and his very own lady announcing in public there is no such thing...

He answered to the question of his loyalty that he will be behind 'Singhs' always and will do anything to make him a winner...But he didn't have any answer to the question of his unconditional support for Pratigya so blindly (as they see it...)

On top of that, he has no explanation for Pratigya's behavior because he is so unaware of the cause for Pratigya's behavior (or change in the behavior)...

I think Krishna wants a quick and tangible proof of Pratigya's loyalty to him...and what is the best proof than consummation...?
'Doodh ka Doodh...Paani Ka Paani..." It all depends on Pratigya's answer tomorrow...

From, story point of view, When the truth comes out, it is this incident which acts as a crucial point for Krishna to make his decision...




This time around the ball is on Prats's court. She is good at speeches on proper behavior, upholding the truth, yada yada yada when in fact she is far from being sksdwali. Now it makes sense why they had the meaningless fake pregnancy storyline. She lives by double standards. On the one side she embarrassed her husband in front of both their parents showing no respect for him or his feelings bec' he started a prank with asking her to lie about the fake pregnancy. Who did it hurt? No one, just a few bruised egos which SS got over rather quickly bec' he is a pragmatic man. Like Baba he doesn't waste his time on faltu matters.

On the other hand Prats is ready to believe her family blindly and doesn't question anything Adarsh told her. Prats talked about her father's talk about freedom in today's episode but then goes and locks himself up voluntarily to cover up a crime? inconsistencies all around?

Krishna can't be blamed this time around. Prats dropped the ball every time Krishna gave her a chance to come up with the info. she had. Didn't she realize whenever the truth came out about her kidnapping like she found out about it herself Krishna was going to react the way he did. It would have been better for her to have told him when she just found out and apologized for her treatment of him bec' she believed it was him who committed the crime. Krishna would have had an angry reaction but at least he would have eventually supported her.

The other thing that is bothersome about this marriage is Prats's reaction to his touch. Every time he even attempts to hold her hand she recoils as if she abhors his touch. Krishna didn't go into this marriage for a platonic relationship. Staying in this marriage to prove a point that she is tough as nails and can face anything the Takurs fling in her face is being selfish and short changing Krishna out of marital happiness by punishing him for a crime he never committed.

it all comes back to the same things we have said forever..........she has been portrayed as a selfish, self-obsorbed, girl who doesn't care two hoots about the happiness of a man who loves her with alll his being. She should set him free and move on with her maike and their idealistic beliefs which would make more sense. Let her hook up with the educated lot like Mathur or whatever. Ultimately educated or not, a pure heart with love is a great blessing anyday over all the books one can read in a lifetime and never learn a thing about what really matters in life. When will she wake up to her own life. Gosh!


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: MERARAI


This time around the ball is on Prats's court. She is good at speeches on proper behavior, upholding the truth, yada yada yada when in fact she is far from being sksdwali. Now it makes sense why they had the meaningless fake pregnancy storyline. She lives by double standards. On the one side she embarrassed her husband in front of both their parents showing no respect for him or his feelings bec' he started a prank with asking her to lie about the fake pregnancy. Who did it hurt? No one, just a few bruised egos which SS got over rather quickly bec' he is a pragmatic man. Like Baba he doesn't waste his time on faltu matters.

On the other hand Prats is ready to believe her family blindly and doesn't question anything Adarsh told her. Prats talked about her father's talk about freedom in today's episode but then goes and locks himself up voluntarily to cover up a crime? inconsistencies all around?

Krishna can't be blamed this time around. Prats dropped the ball every time Krishna gave her a chance to come up with the info. she had. Didn't she realize whenever the truth came out about her kidnapping like she found out about it herself Krishna was going to react the way he did. It would have been better for her to have told him when she just found out and apologized for her treatment of him bec' she believed it was him who committed the crime. Krishna would have had an angry reaction but at least he would have eventually supported her.

The other thing that is bothersome about this marriage is Prats's reaction to his touch. Every time he even attempts to hold her hand she recoils as if she abhors his touch. Krishna didn't go into this marriage for a platonic relationship. Staying in this marriage to prove a point that she is tough as nails and can face anything the Takurs fling in her face is being selfish and short changing Krishna out of marital happiness by punishing him for a crime he never committed.

it all comes back to the same things we have said forever..........she has been portrayed as a selfish, self-obsorbed, girl who doesn't care two hoots about the happiness of a man who loves her with alll his being. She should set him free and move on with her maike and their idealistic beliefs which would make more sense. Let her hook up with the educated lot like Mathur or whatever. Ultimately educated or not, a pure heart with love is a great blessing anyday over all the books one can read in a lifetime and never learn a thing about what really matters in life. When will she wake up to her own life. Gosh!


only referencing the bold words: This is the first time that I've liked what you have writtenšŸ‘šŸ‘ I completely agree with you that if she had the choice she would have been gone a while ago and I'm hoping too that she hooks up with an educated guy like Aman MathuršŸ‘šŸ‘ Vah beta vah......we are definitely thinking on the same track this time😊
Unfortunately Krishna will NOT let her go. I hate to disappoint you, but if Krishna hadn't come back to get her she wouldn't have gone. Was it Pratigya who tied herself up in the jeep adn went with Krishna???? Was it Pratigya who said "lets see how go back to your Maika?" Was it Krishna who made her stay in the little shack and not leave to her parents place? Lets get real hee, Pratigya and Krishna aren't going ot get seperated because the CV's are not going to let their #1 show go down the drain all for the sake of sending a Message.....its all about entertainment at the end of the day message or no message.
So reality is that Pratigya and Krishna are going to have to deal with one another somehow whether you think Pratigya is right or wrong and Krishna is right or wrong because that makes us continue to watch this show. we all LOVE KriYa at the end of the day, that's why they won best Jodi........
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Dunno about others but I dont love KRIYA at all . I watch this show for interesting characters like Krishna [ the old one who was unusual , his Behooda family which was very real ] and the realism shown in the hook of the show at the beginning . . I wud love it if Pratigya marries Aman . I wud clap . . Her highly abnormal attitude to a marital relationship is beyond me. She expects far too much from a husband and I may pity even Aman if she marries him and he gets such a depressing sasural like her maayka family . .

That said ....I agree with Hope that Women r more multi task oriented then men .One cant generalize of course and there r exceptions to every rule , but this is my observation too . Women can easily slip into many roles on personal front , men find it stressful .

Krishna is an example of a typical man . Egoistic in talks but very vulnerable and egoless in actions , wrapped around his wife's little finger , with very simple of love in his heart , cannot bear tears in his loved one's eyes , needs of respect , physical and emotional intimacy , talks practically and objectively while assesing a situation , tactless while defending wife to family , takes his own family for granted but is scared of his own wife . His needs r very simple , he is very uncomplicated and in reality Pratigya wud have a queen's life if she understood him ,.but she is sadly an extreme case . Very robotic and fixated just on PAPA. Abhors intimacy to the point of being considered as a frigid woman .

The truth will come out in such a way that it will hurt Krishna. What remains to be seen if the hurt is given some credibility . Uptill now whenever she has hurt him , he has forgiven her .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nayak29

I really don't think its that men can't multi-task. It's just being a guy myself, I know how hard it is, to balance out the different roles of son, father and spouse. You can't do it all at once, since they're all looking for different things. It's not a question of like eating an apple while combing your hair. You need to completely change your behaviour whichever role your in.



Nayak:

thanks for taking the time to post. My intent was not to stereotype but rather to express what I have noticed from a femal perspective. I am speaking from my experiences hanging around several very good male friends and my hubby in India. this may not apply to you or even several other guys other there.

When I said multitask, i meant the constant juggling of responsibilities. I have noticed that the guys I know tend to find it very difficult to prioritize or perform parallel responsibilities as son and husband. women seem to be better equipped to deal with these becasue they are stronger or more resilient emotionally than men. does not make a man weaker in my estimation just someone who is a lot less complicated to love and live with.

Hope😃😃

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