Some Reality checks for Pratigya

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Posted: 15 years ago
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As I watch this show that promised REALISM ............I see the heroine very unaware of a lot of reality around her .

For one thing she constantly insists , WITHOUT knowing any facts of the case [ Her father has just shut his mouth and refuses to TALK] that her Father is BEKASOOR. He , most emphatically is NOT . He did go to meet Angad , He Did LET Angad 's hand go .There was a mysterious pause , a loop of time which is left for us to infer whether it was accident or a deliberate letting go of the hand . Point is , The Prof DID LET GO OFF ANGAD"S HAND . . Angad fell off when he and Adarsh fought . Adarsh DID go there with murderous thoughts . He should be the one in jail actually , instead he is going around talking to VAKILS as if he is a concerned bystander son . Adarsh went there armed with a bicycle chain to slash Angads face and a hockey stick to bash Angad's head . THAT murderous his intentions were ........he had NOT gone there to play hockey with Angad in the rain . Nor had he taken the chain to repair Angads Bicycle so he cud have a ride home . . So the Saxenas..........Father Son DUO are NOT innocent and indeed a murder charge can be slapped on them . In the States , the question wud be whether they shud be hauled in for first degree murder or manslaughter . In India the question shud be whether it shud be 302 or the other number for Accidental MURDER . But in NO WAY are they BEKASOOR .......Pratigya shud really stop saying that as it amounts to LYING .
Pratigya feels she is doing something for her DAd by engaging a lawyer . Is she really ? Forget her own kidnapping secret ...............we dont even care about that now . But a fAR MORE SERIOUS SECRET than even the kidnapping ...........Her Bro's involvment may come out in court and that may send her bro to jail for Life . Is she aware of this ? If Aman Mathur is a good lawyer he should make her aware of the consequences .
While fighting for a Sachchai KI ladaai , Pratigya's premise for the ladaai is Hardly the truth ........it is UNTRUTH . Her Dad DID sort of Kill Angad , so did her bro , so WHAT sachchai is she fighting for ?
Why wouldnt Sajjan Singh be angry with his Samdhi ? He did NOT come out although he was REQUESTED come out FIR is not lodged ..........it is election time , And later agreed to come out by fighting case due to a simple PROMISE during ELECTION TIME . Here in the states we see High position politicians supppressing even whiffs of scandals ..be it sex scandals or a ticket for DRunken driving got years and years ago ............so is SS really this wrong to be petrified about his elections and the fact that his Samdhi's timing for such foolish obstinacy SUCKS ? Let us leave aside the fact that SS is corrupt , bad etc . ANY samdhi wud be very very irritated with Pratigyas Dad for jeopardising his Elections . Will someone explain this to her when she acts so self righteously ?
Also , before challenging SS and telling him YOU get a lawyer na Babuji .........May I ask with what right she challenged SS to get lawyer for her Dad ? SS had gone there and volunteered to bring him out for free ........after that HER DAD OPTED to stay there . So now with what face she showed sarcasm etc and told SS u get lawyer for my dad ?Reality check is.....SS is NOT obliged to do so ! If Bahus Dad refused to come out , refused his help , showed contempt for corrupt help by sitting on high horse , any sasur , good or bad will wash hands off the affair and not even look in that direction and wud be fully justified ! So Pratigyas sarcastic challenge , though filmy and wonderful to the youthful minds is actually UNJUSTIFIED .
To this point I have not seen her blasting her Dad and BRO when they r both wrong. I thought she was a very FAIR young lady , thats her character . Her Dad and BRo landed the full family in a mess ..........this is the blunt truth . But the way she goes around pronouncing that they are BEKASOOR , AND SWANS AMONG DUCKS is as if The PROF was MANDELA or GANDHI . Will please some opposite lawyer against AMAN MATHUR give her these reality checks in the court room ?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Kools, I also think on similar lines...Pratigya has made her opinions based on her faith in her father and the story what Adarsh told...her judgement is not based on the evidence or the facts...

This is what I think happened on that day...
(I have posted this in some other thread too...)

Actually, Adarsh was held at knife point by Angad and Adarsh pushed him hard. As a result, Angad was pushed the cliff end...So Adarsh's action has resulted in Angad's presumable death.... It could be argued that he did it in self-defense...but the trick here is HE attacked Angad with the intent to KILL him so his argument of self-defense becomes weak. See, legally, if Adarsh had not started the fight then Angad was the sole CRIMINAL in that situation because he was blackmailing Professor. But Adarsh also broke the law by assaulting Angad...

Morally, Adarsh has right to kill the Angad but legally not...

The only way out for Saxsena's is hiding the truth and proving it as an accident....

Here both are criminals - Angad and Adarsh.
Angad for harassing the saxsena's.
Adarsh for attempting to murder...

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Posted: 15 years ago
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rightchoice , Even the self defence argument is very very WEAK . . Angad had that day called the PROF not Adarsh at all . . Angad may be gunda but that day he was interested only in tALKING . He had NOT called to do maramari . He wanted to talk business . . Adarsh went there without being called , on his own . . adarsh went there armed with weapons . . Adarsh picked up a fight . . In the fight , Angad slipped . . Adarsh egged on his Dad to let go of Angad hand . Perhaps he did influence his Dad coz Prof DID let go of the hand . . See how the case looks. They will both go in for MANSLAUGHTER . . One more thing .The Prof can NEVER get his job back . . This is what one gets when one slaps Gundas . It sounds so easy to say We will go down fighting . Today see how the FAMILY is suffering . . It is simply NOT worth it .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Kool, you expect realism from an Indian drama ji? They all say it, we are a close to reality-wrong!. This whole thing is blown so big, and it could eazily be resolved.
I am weird, but I can never like a female in these leading shows. The double standards are just too much for me to handle. I got tired of this show a while back. I find it a mockery how educated people are being shown; especially the females. I have been born and brought up in Canada, but I lived in India for 2 years alone. As an educated woman, I knew what not to do. It is brutal, but you just do not handle it like Pratigya. Her handling of issues is stupid in my opinion. A cool and clear mind does contain answers. Sarcasm does not achieve you anything. It is her own fault she got involved in this mess I feel-the slap to Angad. I was very surprised b/c someone born and brought up in the place should know not to do that. However, she did. What's that saying about digging your own grave?
There are so many loop holes in this show that it makes me cringe at times. She is educated, but you know what ji? Book smart only gets you so far. Being a doctor, you learn only so much-your interactions and experiences with the patients teach you the reality of what your occupation is about.
Pratigya should not have slapped Angad. She should not have married Krishna for revenge. What revenge? Krishna is a man who in her views was savage like; so did she really think revenge could be extracted? I feel she lacks a rational mind (well most leads do so can't really blame her lol).
I really don't know why SS is to be blamed for whatever b/c he stays true to his basic nature-his cruelty and male dominance. Out of the whole show, my favorite is SS b/c I can love to hate him at times, love his questioning; love his realism. Men like him do exist in India-now he is a realistic character. Is he the realism element of the show ji? Hmmm, maybe. He is someone who as a politician is doing what any non-gunda types do-llook for benefits to win the elections. Due to his basic nature he is just hated. However, his actions, like you said Kool, reflect a normal political orientated person.
If Pratigya actually acted like an educated woman, and did things more rationally-I would applaud her ji. However, I'm just one viewer and someone who really doesn't do a thing for TRPs-so why bother care for me na lol.
My opinion only ji. Agree with it or disagree with it-that is upto you. However, please do not say things like how can I say this etc or whatever b/c I shall take offense to that. I have tried to present my opinion in a respectful manner to members and characters. I have not bashed-).
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Ohh and this case will obviously be won b/c they are the good guys-so rationality is out the door. For Pratigya I feel that she is only the educated woman and what not to the uneducated in-laws-b/c they know no better ji. However, her maayka is educated so in that stance their actions must be right. Lets see how awesome this lawyer dude is
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Simran dear at least I will NOT say that .U present ur opinions very civilly dear . .
I agree completely with u .The realism seems to be SS alone at this point .Un real r Pratigya , The Saxes , Aman .
Life in UP Bihar is NOT easy . The society is narrow minded , rigid , and does not appreciate plucky women going around slapping gundas .The Saxes will be ex communicated in real life if they have a daughter like Pratigya. The gundas on their part will infuse such terror in the Saxenas Lives via rape , physical maiming etc that even police wont fall in the mess .Where the hell is this realism ? Why r they teaching young women to idolise Pratigya and befoolishly cocky and endanger their lives ?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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For realism, both Prof and Adrash will be in jail even if they get off the murder charge. With holding information from police is also a crime.

I agree in regards to female leads. Indian serials dont really have the guts to make the protagonist as a girl with flaws. They are usually pure and perfect and at the same time preaching to all and sundry.

TBH, I watch this serial for the acting and not to learn anything. For the first time I have been impressed with the standard of acting in an Indian serial, especially the Singh family (SS, Krishna, Komal brilliant actors and also amma and shakti are excellent in their roles)
Edited by starlight123 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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i wont mind if sucksena father n son rot in jail for life pratgyas way of thinking.....her family n her can never be wrong no matter what
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Posted: 15 years ago
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No matter wht even if pratigya wud hav killed tht ngad they wud hav shown her right coz shez d lead lady no matter wht she'll do they will show her mahaan n all tht very borin though
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Simran dear at least I will NOT say that .U present ur opinions very civilly dear . .

I agree completely with u .The realism seems to be SS alone at this point .Un real r Pratigya , The Saxes , Aman .
Life in UP Bihar is NOT easy . The society is narrow minded , rigid , and does not appreciate plucky women going around slapping gundas .The Saxes will be ex communicated in real life if they have a daughter like Pratigya. The gundas on their part will infuse such terror in the Saxenas Lives via rape , physical maiming etc that even police wont fall in the mess .Where the hell is this realism ? Why r they teaching young women to idolise Pratigya and befoolishly cocky and endanger their lives ?



Kool 🤗 Good post. But see this serial is not effecting young women. Its giving them the picture in such a manner that they should fall for a Guy like krishna, I mean the overwhelming support for Krishna in this forum only, is ample proof that how young girls are attracted to such a person. Whereas Pratigya is doing the opposite. The main concept of this show. Her character is being used to reflect that that slap was a mistake and the troubles thereafter came to her or her family could have been avoided. But that is not the real message, The real message is that this kind of a love story is not possible, That an educated girl could ever fall for a stalker goon and Girls going gaga over krishna is beyond comprehension. The exact opposite then what you are saying here.


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