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Posted: 15 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: rightchoice

Did you see how clever she was to leave the matter to Krishna to settle with his mom? She didn't even attempt convince her to allow her to go maika. "Hmm...it's now Krishna's problem...let him fight, why should I worry?" Amma would have got double angered at her and she would have given double gaalis, but it still make sense to express her point of view by Pratigya herself.

It's not a good attitude for a bahu to keep mum when her husband is fighting for her...especially with Sasumas...it makes bahu to appear divisive. What say you?

Oh shes shrewd alright . She just stood aside with a bored expression on her face as her husband devalued his mom . Her self assured attitude was due to the fact that she knows stupid Krishna is in her pallu , she walked away without so much as a glance at Amma.Thats why I say she has no real respect for anyone in that house , only blind love for her jackass family .
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Posted: 15 years ago
#32



I hope this actually happens. Do you have a contact with any of the Pratigya team or as they say a little birdy told yiu about the future track. 😆

NO DEAR I WISH I DID BUT AS OF NOW I DONT HAVE ANY CONTACT BUT I DO LIKE TO ANALYSE THINGS CLOSELY ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT I BURY MY HEAD INTO LIKE THIS PRATIGYA OF LATE AND AM SIMPLY ENJOING THIS FORUM WITH AL U GR8 GUYS👏
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Posted: 15 years ago
#33
so mera:

I was kind of on the fence with today's epi.

on the one hand, I could see why Krishna felt moved enough by his wife's angst enough to agree to disobey his father and take her to see her maayka (contrary to dad's express instructions) and felt that his actions were that of a caring man who loves and is concerned about his wife. just like my hubby.

on the other hand, I also felt that by going against his father's wishes he made a pwd decision , disobeyed his father and acted disloyal.

I have been going back and forth in my mind on this. I finally spoke to my husband and asked him if he found himself in such a situation what would he do and how would he interpet krishna's reacton i.e. pwd disloyal son or caring husband.

so this is my husband's take:

he thinks Krishna's action was more pwd than caring husband especially because he knows and understands the reason for his father's instructions. simply put as they are financially dependent on SS in every way and live in his house, they should follow his rules, especially the ones that relate directly to the finances they sponge off of. you do not bite the hand that feeds you. according to him, krish is not doing this solely because he cares but because he is uncaring of his father's pressures and is focussed only on pursing his own romantic, etc agenda with a totally non-responsive wife who is blatantly using his obsession to her advantage.

his take is that if Krishna and Prats lived independently and krish was able to financial manage his and his wife's affairs then no matter what his reasons he has the right to take any decision he choses after weighing the pros and cons. But considering that he does not, he cannot use this option, especially in the feudal joint family setup he loves in because the hierachy in such a set up needs to be maintained.

I asked him but is not normal for a daughter to feel the angst that Pratigya does for her family and expect to support them in such strenuous times and he says to me well she is no longer only the daughter of that house but also the DIL of this house so if she wants to help she has to do it in such a manner that she does not ignore her DIL duties and loyalties. if she was told the reasons for not going to her maayka then should have found some other way to support her family. he also mentioned that while he does not watch this show, based on the tidbits I mention everyonce in a while 😳😳😳 (he knows about the honeymoon and the slap and the blackmail) he gets the impression that this girl is a natural town crier and worry wart and so if it is not this thing today it will be something else with her maayka tomorrow and that krishna's indulging such a person''s every whim and worry is very trying and may not be appropriate.

what he says makes sense I guess.

what do you guys think?

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Posted: 15 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: rightchoice

Did you see how clever she was to leave the matter to Krishna to settle with his mom? She didn't even attempt convince her to allow her to go maika. "Hmm...it's now Krishna's problem...let him fight, why should I worry?" Amma would have got double angered at her and she would have given double gaalis, but it still make sense to express her point of view by Pratigya herself.

It's not a good attitude for a bahu to keep mum when her husband is fighting for her...especially with Sasumas...it makes bahu to appear divisive. What say you?



You got it rightchoice! Bingo! Sasumas invariable believe their son is now on a diff. team no matter what bahu does . Very few sasumas treat their bahus like their own daughters and it often comes from someone who had a happy marriage and wants their child to be in a happy marriage. Most of them snicker behind their child/bahu's back.😕😲

Amma has her kayada-kannon to lean on but SS has treated her with little respect. So when she sees Krishna bowing to his wife's every wish and following her like a loyal puppy, esp since she is of another biradari, it riles her.

Prats has always blamed Krishna for bringing her into the family of jaanvars even though it was she who walked up to him and asked to bring the sagun after he walked away. I think there is a pattern here. He pursued her at first, brought saguns on his own and with SS and then walked away. She then used her own twisted logic and told him to bring the sagun again. Third time was the charm. Now he has pursued her to behave like his wife and she has shunned him time and again and now is on a friendship chakkar that seems to make no headway. Angad will fill Krishna in with his lies/stories, Krishna walk away and Prats will come back to him to prove her innocence and save her marriage.


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Posted: 15 years ago
#35
amazing thing about this show.

no character is flawless and every situation leaves no clear winner. the best case scenario is saying that this character was more right than that one😆😆😆

pearl grey 😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: stillhopeful

so mera:

I was kind of on the fence with today's epi.

on the one hand, I could see why Krishna felt moved enough by his wife's angst enough to agree to disobey his father and take her to see her maayka (contrary to dad's express instructions) and felt that his actions were that of a caring man who loves and is concerned about his wife. just like my hubby.

on the other hand, I also felt that by going against his father's wishes he made a pwd decision , disobeyed his father and acted disloyal.

I have been going back and forth in my mind on this. I finally spoke to my husband and asked him if he found himself in such a situation what would he do and how would he interpet krishna's reacton i.e. pwd disloyal son or caring husband.

so this is my husband's take:

he thinks Krishna's action was more pwd than caring husband especially because he knows and understands the reason for his father's instructions. simply put as they are financially dependent on SS in every way and live in his house, they should follow his rules, especially the ones that relate directly to the finances they sponge off of. you do not bite the hand that feeds you. according to him, krish is not doing this solely because he cares but because he is uncaring of his father's pressures and is focussed only on pursing his own romantic, etc agenda with a totally non-responsive wife who is blatantly using his obsession to her advantage.

his take is that if Krishna and Prats lived independently and krish was able to financial manage his and his wife's affairs then no matter what his reasons he has the right to take any decision he choses after weighing the pros and cons. But considering that he does not, he cannot use this option, especially in the feudal joint family setup he loves in because the hierachy in such a set up needs to be maintained.

I asked him but is not normal for a daughter to feel the angst that Pratigya does for her family and expect to support them in such strenuous times and he says to me well she is no longer only the daughter of that house but also the DIL of this house so if she wants to help she has to do it in such a manner that she does not ignore her DIL duties and loyalties. if she was told the reasons for not going to her maayka then should have found some other way to support her family. he also mentioned that while he does not watch this show, based on the tidbits I mention everyonce in a while 😳😳😳 (he knows about the honeymoon and the slap and the blackmail) he gets the impression that this girl is a natural town crier and worry wart and so if it is not this thing today it will be something else with her maayka tomorrow and that krishna's indulging such a person''s every whim and worry is very trying and may not be appropriate.

what he says makes sense I guess.

what do you guys think?



Hope, I agree 100%. She is definitely has a superiority complex, a town crier😆 and is a worry wart who seems to have the misguided idea that she has all the answers ... she thrives on being her family's savior. How did she think they fared while she was in college away from home? On her return she was running scared from Angad through the alleys of Allahabad. She impulsively does and believes whatever pops in her head is the right one and she prefers to fly solo with no parachute to land but expects Baba to be there to make sure she has a soft landing no matter where she lands. This kind of woman would make a man weary. Krishna however seems to have a well of patience.

Krishna has his pride and wants to come out the winner. I think he wants to prove to her she was hiding her love and that she really loves him. Ultimately if she does fall in love with him he will be the eventual winner for she said she would never love him will always hate him. The hate has already been watered down a bit.

He has recently said "itni pareshaani kyun karthi ho" too many times to her. Why isn't she so stressed about her problems at her sasural. For a girl who listens to her father's baashans why has she forgotten what both Nainaji and he have said time and again to her about making her marriage work?

She stresses about every little perceived problem at her maike. She seems rather obsessed with their problems, never believes her OLDER BROTHER and father can find a solution to their problems and she has to pay attention to her own home and sasural. She has not learned the first lesson in marriage. NEVER SPEAK ABOUT HER MAIKE AND THEIR NEEDS AT SASURAL. The times she has angered Amma the most was when she talked about her maike. This girl should have waited a few years to get married till she was mature enough to understand what a marriage means. She thinks she has all the answers, is busy fixing everyone else's problems, hiding stuff from her husband.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#37
When Kriya, reach at maika home and the saxenas, dosen't want to say anything infront of krishna or komal and they ask for privacy. Krishna should just drag pratz , back to ss house kicking and scream, it is about time she tell him the truth.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: mia03

When Kriya, reach at maika home and the saxenas, dosen't want to say anything infront of krishna or komal and they ask for privacy. Krishna should just drag pratz , back to ss house kicking and scream, it is about time she tell him the truth.



Arey yaar! Tum bhi na! If Krishna does that she will then tell him "TUM HUMARE DOSTI KE LAYAK NAHI HO". She knows how to twist the knife right through his heart every chance she gets. The fool is so in love with her he is ready to eat his self-respect like a high-priced dinner if he as to just to get her to love him.😲😕 That is the height of desperation. He has already gone the crazy route with "HUMKO PRATIGYA CHAHIYE".😡😕 Let's hope once Angad comes back to spill a story for his ultimate revenge against Mr. and Mrs. Baba, Krishna will finally snap out of his delusional state of being in love with Prats when she has hit so many secrets from him, question her motives for doing so and send her back to her favorite place.........her maike.😛
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Posted: 15 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: stillhopeful



his take is that if Krishna and Prats lived independently and krish was able to financial manage his and his wife's affairs then no matter what his reasons he has the right to take any decision he choses after weighing the pros and cons. But considering that he does not, he cannot use this option, especially in the feudal joint family setup he loves in because the hierachy in such a set up needs to be maintained.

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agree entirely. these two lovelorn, atmasammaan-lorn bozos need to get a life. build their own pratigya nivas or whatever, earn their own bread and butter, especially madam hoity-toity. they demand far too much from SS, expect too much from SS, and give nothing in return.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hope . I totally agree with jeeju . Everything he spoke is exactly every inch of what I feel whenever I see this serial . . Krishna literally lives off his father .Shakti works by doing all the jobs his father orders him to do . He may be drink , go to kothas and hit Kesar but he earns his living by doing that Balu ki thekedaari and handles all of SS's affairs . Krishna does NOTHING . neither does Madam Pratigya. Both eat muft ki rotis in that house and on top of it Krishna backanswers his Parents tactlessly and vociferously in front of Pratigya while she looks on with disgusted glares . Then he walks away with Pratigya to the bedroom . This is the usual scenario and it really hurts me as a viewer when I put myself in his parents place . To this day I have not seen him do a single thing for his parents .He does everything for Pratigya. Zero adjustment for parents and any adjustment for Pratigya is his constant behaviour . Amma may be bad , vicious etc , but the ironical stunned look on her face whenever she observes how Krishna starts firing his own people for Pratigya's sake is something i identify with totally . Frankly speaking the day he held SS 's hand and said For her I can fight the world phir tum to mere baap ho , that day itself SS shud have kicked Krishna out of his house .Shakti was right for once when he pointed out to SS that ur being partial to Krishna by entertaining his tantrums so much . Sometimes Krishnas behaviour bugs me so much that I feel SS shud tell him u go with ur biwi and live at her maayke . { I wud have told this to my son if he had behaved like Krishna, i wudnt have SS's patience .] . Whatever SS is , he has . 1] Not taken a penny in dowry and infact spent alone for the grand wedding and only requested participation and cooperation from the Professor by even sending his car over to fetch them . They were not gracious enough to even give this phookat ka cooperation and were avoiding to go to sangeet ceremony etc , uncaring about SS's status and how he wud look in front of hIS relatives ........to the point when SS decided enough was enough and put his foot down and told the Prof I can MAKE u come if u dont come by urself . Frankly at that point I cud not blame SS . . 2] spent generously for honeymoon of both the couples without demanding that the SAxes did not spend a rupee for the wedding so they should at least fund the honeymoon , its the least the cud do for both of their children . In fact we see Dadi bitching that bas , itne kam din ka honeymoon ?Bada ghamand hai na Sajjan Singh ko apne paise ka , toh aur din nahi rakh sakta tha kya bachon ko honeymoon mein ? I felt this was height of shamelessness of Saxenas when they joined Dadi in this unfair bitching . U guys r phookat public , arrogant or whatever , he paid for it out of HIS pocket dammit . Do u guys have any face to even talk like this ?They were ready to spend so much for those Jagmohans .........they havent given Krishna even a small gift or dinner as a son in law , THAT cheap they are in their mentality . . 3] built a school for Pratigya and named it after her .Ok he did it for the vote bank , but he did it na ? All this costs money and manpower and he gave it . . 4] Tried to get his samdhi out ASAP the moment he heard of his arrest , but was ungraciously refuted with a condescending attitude that I prefer to sadofy in jail rather than have U bail me out . Again , for this he received no gratitude . Rather , he trying to win his Election was held against him . Pratigya's expectation was perhaps that he shud say to hell with my election , I will only focus my energies on Shyamji and worship him with marigold flowers the moment he is free from this case .😕 . I am not saying SS is a good man . But the fact remains he has done these things . Pratigyas maika has not given her a single ornament , saris , gifts , nothing . Nor have they even invited her and her husband over for dinner even once . She lives at sasural comfortably although hubby isnt working and gives nothing to the son from her end .........physically , emotionally or financially . And Yet shows loads of attitude to her sasuraal people . Frankly , after seeing the unreasonable pampering of Krishna and the way Pratigya wins her so called battles due to him , I often feel rather sorry for the old brute SS for losing so pathetically each time with the uppity Saxes .

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