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Posted: 15 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Komal shud give Adarsh two whacks on his hind region with that same hockey stick when the truth comes out

Komal shud ensure Prat the brat stays put at her sasural this time so she does not aggravate the situation with yet another rash action


Infact Komal shud firmly tell Prat the brat that this is MY turf now and u focus on UR sasural


Komal shud really give the hopeless Saxes and Pratigya a verbal blasting after hearing WHY she was kept at maayka while Prat the brat handled the situations with so called efficiency at the SAX house ........the way they coolly ignored the bahu of that house while Prat the Brat took charge was honestly irritating , someone needs to apprise Prat The Brat of her limits now that she is married


They kept Komal out of the picture , suppressed so many truths and aggravated the situation by slapping Angad second time . It is they who are way out of line .


This time Komal shud refuse to become a pawn and go back .She shud take charge and just ask the Saxes to shut up and especially fire Prat the Brat


Honestly Prat the Brat has done ENOUGH . Her second slap was not gonna yield any good .......the first itself ensured horrific stalking . Yet she went and slapped a gunda......and plunged her family in danger . The whole crux of the problem is her attitude ........I can manage without help .Just like her Dad who is saying I dont need anyones help , I will stay in police station . What I feel is Komal shud take strong objection to Pratigya coming constantly over to maayka to take charge and deciding to keep her out of the picture and clip Pratigyaswings by telling her to mind her own business at her sasuraal for a change . Some one needs to tells Pratigya off .




But kools, don't you think it is also Pratigya's moral responsibility to resolve the issue as it is the result of her action and she is focal point of this mess?

The question people will ask immediately is that once beti is married, don't she have any say in her maika? If the answer comes out as NO then everyone starts attacking why NOT?

I feel Pratigya is morally responsible for this mess so she should help their parents. But not taking out single handedly. She should taken everyone into confidence and act together. She should not override the maika for the simple reason that she herself wouldn't like overriding her in the sasural.



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Posted: 15 years ago
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See I dont believe that once marriedthe relation of a gal with maayka ends .
But I dont like the other extreme either ...that the daughter constantly handles every problem in maayka by taking zero interest in sasural and at times even keeping the bhabhi out of the picture . Thats what Prats and her family did .
Komal cannot pretend . She asked bluntly , u guys made me a stranger and now u expect APNAPAN , affection from me ?Bull to u !
It was TRUTH . Adarsh has not done a single .tiny attempt to make her feel like a wife , he hasnt even taken her for a simple ride on a bike to civil Lines , her expectations were so simple really . He treated her AWFULLY .
All she sees is him protecting his sister and using her for that . How the hell is she supposed to feel yaar . There Krishna does Pratigya Pratigya here Adarsh does Pratigya Pratigya , why wont komal HATE pratigya ?
And Pratigya is rushing everytime to maayka to take charge . What the hELL yaar , any girl in komals place wud FLIP .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Moral responsibility toh Pratigya even has of working on her marraige , whatever it is , as she took the decision of marrying !
But coming to your point .............about she solving this problem as she is morally responsible for it . Her biggest problem rightchoice is that she does things oN HER OWN and thinks firmly that it is the bEST WAY . She has inherited her fathers intellectual ego and loves deciding on her OWN . The second slap to Angad in that cocky manner , with the 'layak' statements she flings on all mens faces was really unecessary and totally just being HER . She endangered full family with that action . The fact is she doesnt feel morally responsible for these crisises that befall her family at all , she even made statements like We will go down fighting .
Well by all means .But u go down ALONE . Why shud Arushis face bee peeled with acid ? Or why shud Arushi be raped due to her cockiness or foolhardiness ? Neither does she have the common sense to understand this nor does her foolish family have the guts to set boundaries and curb her rash doings . And so i say , that if this is the case , let a total third person like Komal set the limits by using the THIS IS MY HOME card . What Pratigya frankly needs is bullying at this stage ........bullying by another woman and a totally new perspective flung on her face that she hasnt even thought of .Like ........hey , ur married , so what r u doing here ?We will manage , u go .
No I dont believe marraige means end of maayka relations . I am a woman and I havve a bhabhi too and I wdnt dream of keeping her out of things and solving my maayka problems . I said Komal shud use this traditional card just to bully her a little and make her see sense , coz she doesnt listen to anyone and that is infuriating .
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Posted: 15 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

See I dont believe that once marriedthe relation of a gal with maayka ends .

But I dont like the other extreme either ...that the daughter constantly handles every problem in maayka by taking zero interest in sasural and at times even keeping the bhabhi out of the picture . Thats what Prats and her family did .

Prats never wanted to keep Komal away or hide things from her, get your facts corrected. Even at Adda when Adarsh and her Papa came, the only thing she asked is why you haven't brought komal back
Komal cannot pretend . She asked bluntly , u guys made me a stranger and now u expect APNAPAN , affection from me ?Bull to u !

I agree a very correct description of her character, and I like her the way she is

It was TRUTH . Adarsh has not done a single .tiny attempt to make her feel like a wife , he hasnt even taken her for a simple ride on a bike to civil Lines , her expectations were so simple really . He treated her AWFULLY .

When things were changing between them, SS tapkofied, since then all went worng.
All she sees is him protecting his sister and using her for that . How the hell is she supposed to feel yaar . There Krishna does Pratigya Pratigya here Adarsh does Pratigya Pratigya , why wont komal HATE pratigya ?

Its Komals own behavior towards her husband and susral, when she started to change her Jungly ways every one cried on her departure that day.
And Pratigya is rushing everytime to maayka to take charge . What the hELL yaar , any girl in komals place wud FLIP .

Both have a roll to play in their respective domains and both does what they seems fit. 😆

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: SAM2U



I pitty on Komal as not only Prats and Adarsh but SS and Guruma are more responsible for pushing their daughter to Marry Adarsh. Its the intelligent SS and Mahan Guruma knowingly pushed her into this situation for their political agenda. Now she will suffer no matter who we want to blame. Not to forget Krishna as he was also willing to sacrifice every one let alone Komal.

Agreed but SS and Guruma were the effects that followed , the cAUSE was Adarsh who went there with the proposal in the first place . All the dos and donts and hows and whys followed later .Krishnas reasoning that my sister will be happier there as they r mild folks , Gurumas reasoning that hey we can use this marraige for politics and vote banks all r EFFECTS that followed the CAUSE . It was In Pratigyas hands alone to stop this when she understood that Adarsh was sacrificing himself for HER sake .Adarsh may be a lot of things but he is a FANTASTIC brother , even better than Krishna , who hardly gives komal a thought and does Pratigya Pratigya all the time. [ No wonder Komal pulled his hair] . Pratigya shud have said at that moment , kill me , Im NOT marrying , I cannot allow two humans to be sacrificed for my fear , revenge agenda , badnaami , whatever . She cud have stopped it and she didnt .She was not scared when Krishna took her at gunpoint and refused to apologise although a gun was held to her head , so I refuse to believe that Pratigya lacked the guts or power to stop the Adarsh Komal marraige . Infact she was the ONLY one who cud have , and secretly SS wud have been relieved as he hated the thought of Komal marrying a kayasth , he is a very casteminded man . Nobody wanted this marraige .......Krishna didnt want it initially , neither did Amma , neither did SS . Shakkti hated it , least of all , KOMAL . It occured because of that STUPID counteracting proposal of ADARSH which stemmed from PRATIGYAs decision to marry Krishna .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Agreed but SS and Guruma were the effects that followed , the cAUSE was Adarsh who went there with the proposal in the first place . All the dos and donts and hows and whys followed later .Krishnas reasoning that my sister will be happier there as they r mild folks , Gurumas reasoning that hey we can use this marraige for politics and vote banks all r EFFECTS that followed the CAUSE . It was In Pratigyas hands alone to stop this when she understood that Adarsh was sacrificing himself for HER sake .Adarsh may be a lot of things but he is a FANTASTIC brother , even better than Krishna , who hardly gives komal a thought and does Pratigya Pratigya all the time. [ No wonder Komal pulled his hair] . Pratigya shud have said at that moment , kill me , Im NOT marrying , I cannot allow two humans to be sacrificed for my fear , revenge agenda , badnaami , whatever . She cud have stopped it and she didnt .She was not scared when Krishna took her at gunpoint and refused to apologise although a gun was held to her head , so I refuse to believe that Pratigya lacked the guts or power to stop the Adarsh Komal marraige . Infact she was the ONLY one who cud have , and secretly SS wud have been relieved as he hated the thought of Komal marrying a kayasth , he is a very casteminded man . Nobody wanted this marraige .......Krishna didnt want it initially , neither did Amma , neither did SS . Shakkti hated it , least of all , KOMAL . It occured because of that STUPID counteracting proposal of ADARSH which stemmed from PRATIGYAs decision to marry Krishna .



False argument, i can not believe that SS couldn't stop Komal's marriage. Komal herself had all the opportunity to refuse, if you say she has a more gray matter then Prats. All hated this marriage yet succumbed to the demands of Krishna isn't it funny if not pathetic.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: SAM2U



False argument, i can not believe that SS couldn't stop Komal's marriage. Komal herself had all the opportunity to refuse, if you say she has a more gray matter then Prats. All hated this marriage yet succumbed to the demands of Krishna isn't it funny if not pathetic.

Purely ur opinion if u think it is a false argument. Komal had no choice in the matter , Thakurs dont give women choice to decide their marraiges , their marraiges r decided by fathers and brothers although she was given latitude regarding other things as a way of pampering by SS . The argument is not whether SS cud stop Komals marraige .........ur missing the point as usual . I am not even going into that part .........that Krishna had slit his wrists , made SS helpless due to his Pratigya craze and then Guruma had butted in , showing SS that use this marraige to ur advantage . The argument is that much before SS Pratigya cud have stopped it and she DID NOT . I always say in all my posts that SS is a wrong man period . I dont expect much from him as he is the villain in the show . in my eyes
Krishna promising Komal to Adarsh was way out of line as it was SS ;s decision , not Krishnas to make ......he had no right to take this decision alone
SS listening to Guruma and saying yes was wrong as he placed election winning and personal goals over daughter
Pratigya not putting her foot down after listening to Adarshs strategy and saying I dont want this marraige with these stakes , either I go in it ALONE or not at all , was absolutely unacceptable as two lives were involved .
Let us agree to disagree here too optimist .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Rightchoice

Moral responsibility toh Pratigya even has of working on her marraige , whatever it is , as she took the decision of marrying !


But coming to your point .............about she solving this problem as she is morally responsible for it . Her biggest problem rightchoice is that she does things oN HER OWN and thinks firmly that it is the bEST WAY . She has inherited her fathers intellectual ego and loves deciding on her OWN . The second slap to Angad in that cocky manner , with the 'layak' statements she flings on all mens faces was really unecessary and totally just being HER . She endangered full family with that action . The fact is she doesnt feel morally responsible for these crisises that befall her family at all , she even made statements like We will go down fighting .


Well by all means .But u go down ALONE . Why shud Arushis face bee peeled with acid ? Or why shud Arushi be raped due to her cockiness or foolhardiness ? Neither does she have the common sense to understand this nor does her foolish family have the guts to set boundaries and curb her rash doings . And so i say , that if this is the case , let a total third person like Komal set the limits by using the THIS IS MY HOME card . What Pratigya frankly needs is bullying at this stage ........bullying by another woman and a totally new perspective flung on her face that she hasnt even thought of .Like ........hey , ur married , so what r u doing here ?We will manage , u go .


No I dont believe marraige means end of maayka relations . I am a woman and I havve a bhabhi too and I wdnt dream of keeping her out of things and solving my maayka problems . I said Komal shud use this traditional card just to bully her a little and make her see sense , coz she doesnt listen to anyone and that is infuriating .



Right Kools. She is hot headed in thinking that she can solve all the problem by slapping the people. Kind of dumb but thats what she thinks. She sees no risk in confronting Gundas. She lacks envisioning the consequences. (Marrying Krishna, Slapping Angad second time, Leaving the house and now hiding truth from Krishna...list goes on)

Particularly, in case of saxsena's Pratigya is the root cause of the problem or her way of tackling the problem caused it at least. But the problem is Pratigya thinks only she ALONE can solve the problem and in that course she inflicts more problems. And she treats them as a NEW set of problems.

Here is my thoughts on Mayka and Married girl relationship:
I am not telling Girls relationship ends after the marriage. But I am all for drawing the boundaries between the Mayka and Sasural once the girl gets married. The relationship with mayka gets transformed into a new one. Girl can not and should continue just as is before and after the marriage. This relationship also gets boundaries formed just like after the adulthood the relationship between Parents and Children transforms. Parent doesn't indulge in day to day life of their adult children. Parents and Children doesn't severe the relationship here but forms a new boundaries.

Drawing this boundary is also subjective. In reality, thats the point of contention between girl and their Sister-in-laws.

In case of Pratigya, she neither values her marriage from heart nor she ready to go back to her parents completely. She is living with Krishna, just for the namesake. That's why she is into 24/7 thinking of maayka.


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: rightchoice



Right Kools. She is hot headed in thinking that she can solve all the problem by slapping the people. Kind of dumb but thats what she thinks. She sees no risk in confronting Gundas. She lacks envisioning the consequences. (Marrying Krishna, Slapping Angad second time, Leaving the house and now hiding truth from Krishna...list goes on)

Particularly, in case of saxsena's Pratigya is the root cause of the problem or her way of tackling the problem caused it at least. But the problem is Pratigya thinks only she ALONE can solve the problem and in that course she inflicts more problems. And she treats them as a NEW set of problems.

Here is my thoughts on Mayka and Married girl relationship:
I am not telling Girls relationship ends after the marriage. But I am all for drawing the boundaries between the Mayka and Sasural once the girl gets married. The relationship with mayka gets transformed into a new one. Girl can not and should continue just as is before and after the marriage. This relationship also gets boundaries formed just like after the adulthood the relationship between Parents and Children transforms. Parent doesn't indulge in day to day life of their adult children. Parents and Children doesn't severe the relationship here but forms a new boundaries.

Drawing this boundary is also subjective. In reality, thats the point of contention between girl and their Sister-in-laws.

In case of Pratigya, she neither values her marriage from heart nor she ready to go back to her parents completely. She is living with Krishna, just for the namesake. That's why she is into 24/7 thinking of maayka.


Yes . Precisely my thoughts too . Totally agreed .

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