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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: limits

Hey anu-s!!! Thanx for letting me know about ur confusion!!! I thought since we didnt use too many colors it was quite clear and it would have been clear to those who read the previous posts!!! Didnt think about those who might start reading with last one... Ny ways, to clear the confusion - the red-fonts are the first replies by limits to a comment made by MERARAI n black-fonts, the green fonts are the replies by MERARAI to limits' red-fonted comments AND the blue-fonts are limits' replies to MERARAI's green-fonted comments!!! Hope I didnt confuse u even further!😆



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lol so its.....see I'm getting better at this...as I am getting used to reading your posts...

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🤣Silly ME!!!😳 ThAnX Anchal!!! WOW!!! I didnt know how a few words could be sooo much clearer than a whole gibberish sentence!!!🤣🤣🤣

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Originally posted by: limits

🤣Silly ME!!!😳 ThAnX Anchal!!! WOW!!! I didnt know how a few words could be sooo much clearer than a whole gibberish sentence!!!🤣🤣🤣



I think you're just addicted to writing essays!!🤣
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Originally posted by: Charishma

Once again, totally did Not mean to jump all over you. I just thought Id address your comments as you made them. You are right, its just easier that wayy..lol😆

Hey I really don't mind the add on. I thougt i wld add again but thgt it wld get too messy.

1) As you pointed out we haven't had any poll so we can not draw a conclusion that people blindly agree with every action of Krish. And if there was poll it shld not be ambiguious. It shld not just ask whether Krishna was wrong or right. It shld ask was Krishna's anger just and Was his reaction to the situation right or wrong and I do think we will get a clearer picture.


2) Now it's my bad i did not understand that by 'learning a lesson' you meant Prats needs to be punished. I interpreted it as she needs to learn more meaningful lessons in life like 'Hatered will only bring destruction to you'. And btw Pratigya doesn't need to be punished. I don't think Krishna's ill-treatment towards Prats was with the intention of teaching her a lesson. It was a reaction to the whole situation which is quite different.

3) I think you didn't get me here. I never said that a husband can demand sex from his wife or force it on her. What i meant was it is quite normal to share physical intimacy with your partner/wife esp if you luv him/her and krishna does luv her there is no doubt abt it. Unfortunately he has deluded himself to believe that Prats reciprocates his feelings. And Prats was absolutely correct in saying no to it. The ides of being physical with a man u hate is appalling. And Marriage is absolutely not = sex but physical intimacy is an important ingredient for a healthy marriage.
4) I wasn't saying her rejection to consumate the marriage is mental torture. It is her behaviour prior to it. I think constantly ridiculing anyones effort and making him feel his existence is worthless does count to some degree of mental torture. Any effort made by Krish was rewarded by cold stares conveying the msg: 'What planet are you from?' Before the incident on her honeymoon when did she tell him why she hates him.
5) From the start I have never said his act of violence was just but is anger was just. We all feel angry at different things and act differently. For a minute I will agree withyou that his anger was not justified as nobody's anger justifies atheir action that is why it is one of the seven cardinal sins. So that shld also apply to Prats how is her decision to marry Krish out off anger just. Now b4 u tell me she was forced let me ask u:
We all agree that she married him because she didn't want her family to be harassed any further. Tell me what if her father or brother were harassed at work. say for example her father was physically abused by one of his students or if an influential student had framed him for sexual assault (Trust me such things do happen). What wld she have done? If out of anger she had something insane like murder wld her action be then justified? As you say we all shld be responsible for our actions than so shld Pratigya be. She married Krish because she was angry with for causing humiliation to his family and thought she is responsible for all the miseries in their life and giving into Krish's marriage demand wld end all that. Shye wld get her take her revenge and her family cld live in peace. So it was her choice and her decision not matter what the basis was.
6) Firstly it doesn't mean that if your perspective towards life is very childish you have a mental condition. Yes Krishna is an adult but i don't think it automatically implies he shld be mature. An individual only learns to takes reponsibility when he/she is given an opportunity to do so. You gave the perfect example: Like a child hitting someone wld understand he has done wrong only because the first time he bullied anyone his parents or people around him told that it was wrong not because he was rewarded and praised for his actions. Our parents or elders are our first teacher who tell us what is wrong and right. We don't tell a lie because our parents either explained us or punished us when we told the first lie. If that act was appreciated the first time u wld conclude that is the right thing to do.
7) an abuser wld continue to abuse her not back off after that incident thats all i can say
8) Okay let me get this correct. I never said he had a childhood was horrible. He was lucky that he was not molested or abused when he was growing up. It is a bit harsh to say tough luck you had a shitty background but you can't use that as excuse for the way you act. I don't think children who go thro such lives will ever grow up to be normal and it is going to effect their actions later in their life. It is like saying a women who had to live the ordeal of rape will find it difficult to have physical relation. You cannot say well tough luck u got raped get over it. If such ppl do anything wrong the law gives them an opportunity to redeem themselves not hand in capital punishment. My point was he was never taught to be able to differentiate between right or wrong. His acts- like bullying other people was applauded by his loved ones when he was growing up. What do you think he will do when he grows up?
9) Again his violent outburst was not because he luved her it was because he never understood her behaviour towards him
10)How do you think he shld have reacted the next morining? He has tried to make efforts to talk to her he gets ignored and made to feel like a worm, he tried an arguing with her previous nite he was hurt emotionally (pls don't tell me just because he was angry he didn't get hurt emotionally). We all have done it at some point in life to hide our pain behind anger. Shld he come said sorry can we start again because we all know how that wld have ended Prats giving him another cold stare
Hey no offence taken in addressing my comments. I appreciate that u r doing it quite amicably and not hinting that i am a sadist b----- who has no idea abt what Prats is going thro and relishes Krish inflicting pain on her.
Edited by krishna_chalbo - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: krishna_chalbo

Hey I really don't mind the add on. I thougt i wld add again but thgt it wld get too messy.

1) As you pointed out we haven't had any poll so we can not draw a conclusion that people blindly agree with every action of Krish. And if there was poll it shld not be ambiguious. It shld not just ask whether Krishna was wrong or right. It shld ask was Krishna's anger just and Was his reaction to the situation right or wrong and I do think we will get a clearer picture.


2) Now it's my bad i did not understand that by 'learning a lesson' you meant Prats needs to be punished. I interpreted it as she needs to learn more meaningful lessons in life like 'Hatered will only bring destruction to you'. And btw Pratigya doesn't need to be punished. I don't think Krishna's ill-treatment towards Prats was with the intention of teaching her a lesson. It was a reaction to the whole situation which is quite different.

3) I think you didn't get me here. I never said that a husband can demand sex from his wife or force it on her. What i meant was it is quite normal to share physical intimacy with your partner/wife esp if you luv him/her and krishna does luv her there is no doubt abt it. Unfortunately he has deluded himself to believe that Prats reciprocates his feelings. And Prats was absolutely correct in saying no to it. The ides of being physical with a man u hate is appalling. And Marriage is absolutely not = sex but physical intimacy is an important ingredient for a healthy marriage.
4) I wasn't saying her rejection to consumate the marriage is mental torture. It is her behaviour prior to it. I think constantly ridiculing anyones effort and making him feel his existence is worthless does count to some degree of mental torture. Any effort made by Krish was rewarded by cold stares conveying the msg: 'What planet are you from?' Before the incident on her honeymoon when did she tell him why she hates him.
5) From the start I have never said his act of violence was not just but is anger was just. We all feel angry at different things and act differently. Nobody anger justifies anyones action that is why it is one of the seven cardinal sin.
6) Firstly it doesn't mean that if your perspective towards life is very childish you have a mental condition. Yes Krishna is an adult but i don't think it automatically implies he shld be mature. An individual only learns to takes reponsibility when he/she is given an opportunity to do so. You gave the perfect example: Like a child hitting someone wld understand he has done wrong only because the first time he bullied anyone his parents or people around him told that it was wrong not because he was rewarded and praised for his actions. Our parents or elders are our first teacher who tell us what is wrong and right. We don't tell a lie because our parents either explained us or punished us when we told the first lie. If that act was appreciated the first time u wld conclude that is the right thing to do.
7) an abuser wld continue to abuse her not back off after that incident thats all i can say
8) Okay let me get this correct. I never said he had a childhood was horrible. He was lucky that he was not molested or abused when he was growing up. It is a bit harsh to say tough luck you had a shitty background but you can't use that as excuse for the way you act. I don't think children who go thro such lives will ever grow up to be normal and it is going to effect their actions later in their life. It is like saying a women who had to live the ordeal of rape will find it difficult to have physical relation. You cannot say well tough luck u got raped get over it. If such ppl do anything wrong the law gives them an opportunity to redeem themselves not hand in capital punishment. My point was he was never taught to be able to differentiate between right or wrong. His acts- like bullying other people was applauded by his loved ones when he was growing up. What do you think he will do when he grows up?
9) Again his violent outburst was not because he luved her it was because he never understood her behaviour towards him

10)How do you think he shld have reacted the next morining? He has tried to make efforts to talk to her he gets ignored and made to feel like a worm, he tried an arguing with her previous nite he was hurt emotionally (pls don't tell me just because he was angry he didn't get hurt emotionally). We all have done it at some point in life to hide our pain behind anger. Shld he come said sorry can we start again because we all know how that wld have ended Prats giving him another cold stare
Hey no offence taken in addressing my comments. I appreciate that u r doing it quite amicably and not hinting that i am a sadist b----- who has no idea abt what Prats is going thro and relishes Krish inflicting pain on her.



Bravo! Agree with your comments 100%. Krishna today is the sum total of his personality, upbringing and experiences. Granted he has a lot to learn and grow out of. We have seen him reflectiing on his behavior esp. after advice from a total stranger. That he was willing to even listen to a stranger's advice shows he wants to figure things out. If we are going to judge his behavior taking into consideration all the things he has done since seeing Prats then so should we consider, of all of her actions. We all accept that slapping Angad started this nightmare for her. The sum total of her personality, upbringing and experiences has brought her to where she is today. She has to face the consequences with the choices she has made and take responsibility for some of her own behavior. Being of the female gender does not explain away her choices and justify ALL her actions.




Edited by MERARAI - 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: krishna_chalbo

Hello!!! First of all, I am a Krishna fan too and I must say that ur reasons behind defending Krishna are among the v.few sensible reasons I've read soo far!!!👏

Hey I really don't mind the add on. I thougt i wld add again but thgt it wld get too messy.

1) As you pointed out we haven't had any poll so we can not draw a conclusion that people blindly agree with every action of Krish. And if there was poll it shld not be ambiguious. It shld not just ask whether Krishna was wrong or right. It shld ask was Krishna's anger just and Was his reaction to the situation right or wrong and I do think we will get a clearer picture.

Agreed!!! Most of the pole have options saying KRISHNA is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT and just seeing these three caps-words can make ny Pratigya-fans go 😲😲 !!! I think Krishna's anger or nyone in his situation is 'expected' BUT not 'just'... And so, even if his reaction to the situation is 'expected', its faarrr from being nything closer to 'right'!!! And if there is a pole asking whether Krishna's actions were expected or not, I am sure even most of the Pratigya-fans would say that it was expected! The only difference I see is that even though the Pratigya-fans find Krishna's behavior as 'expected', we dont think that its right and Krishna needs to correct these wrongs, where as, most of the Krishna-fans think its 'expected' from Krishna so there is nothing wrong in wat he did and his reactions are absolutely right!!!

2) Now it's my bad i did not understand that by 'learning a lesson' you meant Prats needs to be punished. I interpreted it as she needs to learn more meaningful lessons in life like 'Hatered will only bring destruction to you'. And btw Pratigya doesn't need to be punished. I don't think Krishna's ill-treatment towards Prats was with the intention of teaching her a lesson. It was a reaction to the whole situation which is quite different -Exactly!!!
Like I said, ur comments make sense to me 😃 BUT I did read some comments where they r saying exactly like wat Charishma meant by 'learning a lesson'!!!
3) I think you didn't get me here. I never said that a husband can demand sex from his wife or force it on her. What i meant was it is quite normal to share physical intimacy with your partner/wife esp if you luv him/her and krishna does luv her there is no doubt abt it. Unfortunately he has deluded himself to believe that Prats reciprocates his feelings. And Prats was absolutely correct in saying no to it. The ides of being physical with a man u hate is appalling. And Marriage is absolutely not = sex but physical intimacy is an important ingredient for a healthy marriage.=> 👏👏👏
4) I wasn't saying her rejection to consumate the marriage is mental torture. It is her behaviour prior to it. I think constantly ridiculing anyones effort and making him feel his existence is worthless does count to some degree of mental torture. Any effort made by Krish was rewarded by cold stares conveying the msg: 'What planet are you from?' Before the incident on her honeymoon when did she tell him why she hates him.
Hey, can u even compare Krishna's 'some degree of mental torture' to the 'extreme mental torture' that Pratigya and her family went through before her marriage??? Krishna was as much responsible for their mental torture as was Angad!!! All their efforts to keep Krishna away from Pratigya failed miserably bcoz of Krishna!!! And Pratigya is still going through these 'mental tortures' in the junglee house and sometimes with Krishna as well bcoz I think physical abuses also cause mental torture!!!
So, If Krishna or nyone in his situation is 'expected' to lose his temper because of his wasted efforts, then, I dont really expect Pratigya or nyone in her situation to give Krishna ny kind of stares other than the cold ones!!!
I am sure she told him why she hated him during the wedding night and I think everytime she speaks more than a few sentences, its always telling him why she hates him!!! On the honeymoon night, I think she told him why she cant love someone like him!!! Again, Krishna never lets her complete her 'reasons behind her hatred towards him' or 'reasons why she cant love him'....
5) From the start I have never said his act of violence was just but is anger was just. We all feel angry at different things and act differently. For a minute I will agree withyou that his anger was not justified as nobody's anger justifies atheir action that is why it is one of the seven cardinal sins. So that shld also apply to Prats how is her decision to marry Krish out off anger just. Now b4 u tell me she was forced let me ask u:
We all agree that she married him because she didn't want her family to be harassed any further. Tell me what if her father or brother were harassed at work. say for example her father was physically abused by one of his students or if an influential student had framed him for sexual assault (Trust me such things do happen). What wld she have done? If out of anger she had something insane like murder wld her action be then justified? As you say we all shld be responsible for our actions than so shld Pratigya be. She married Krish because she was angry with for causing humiliation to his family and thought she is responsible for all the miseries in their life and giving into Krish's marriage demand wld end all that. Shye wld get her take her revenge and her family cld live in peace. So it was her choice and her decision not matter what the basis was.
Yaar!!! MERARAI and u r getting into unrelated topics! The underlined sentence is completely unrlated to Pratigya - the serial! Whoever harassed her father and brother DID NOT DO SO TO MARRY PRATIGYA!!! Whereas, everything that Krishna did, intentional or not, WERE TO MARRY PRATIGYA!!! If she did commit a murder, no matter wat the situation, it would NOT be just and she would be wrong, just like no matter how much angry Krishna was in watever situation, his reactions were NOT just AT ALL but wrong!!!
So, u r saying she 'chose' to make the decision to marry Krishna, right? Ok, how about we think like this:
WHY in the world would she 'choose' to marry someone whom she has been refusing to marry?
Bcoz she wanted to save her family from further humiliations and fear (we all agree on that!) and like u said, she was 'angry' at Krishna and I think she wanted to teach him a lesson that even if he can marry her 'forcefully', he can never get her to love him!!!
NOW, WHY in the world did SHE have to be the ONE to save her family from ny humiliation and fear ???
BCOZ SHE is the ONE Krishna loves and in the process of expressing his love for her, HE humiliated and scared her and her family to death!
WHAT in the world MADE her soo 'angry' that she 'chose' to marry someone she detests???
BCOZ SHE is the ONE Krishna WANTS to MARRY in one way or another and HE has made sure that the Saxenas or Pratigya has no other way left BUT to marry him...
AND WHY in the world would she ever WANT to teach nyone a lesson???
BCOZ SHE is a strong woman, strong enough to let go of her own dreams and future and to 'choose' to decide to spend the rest of her life with someone she thinks has kidnapped her just to marry her...
Pheww!!! After this loooonnnng explanation, if u still think that Pratigya or nyone in her situation can so easily just 'choose' to make a decision to marry someone she hate - SURE!!! Go ahead and think so! WAT I want to say to that is Pratigya was FORCED to make a 'choice' between Making a decision to marry Krishna or Watching her family and herself suffer while Krishna did his v.best to ruin their self-respect and reputation! Oops! I meant while Krishna did his v.best to express his love for Pratigya!!!😉
So far, I think Pratigya's only responsibility with Krishna is to teach him a lesson and I think, she has done a great job, seeing a little bit of changes in Krishna and his failure in getting or imposing 'his right as a husband'!!!👏👏👏 And Krishna has a looonnnngggg way to go before he can earn the right of her responsibility as a wife!!!
6) Firstly it doesn't mean that if your perspective towards life is very childish you have a mental condition. Yes Krishna is an adult but i don't think it automatically implies he shld be mature. An individual only learns to takes reponsibility when he/she is given an opportunity to do so. You gave the perfect example: Like a child hitting someone wld understand he has done wrong only because the first time he bullied anyone his parents or people around him told that it was wrong not because he was rewarded and praised for his actions. Our parents or elders are our first teacher who tell us what is wrong and right. We don't tell a lie because our parents either explained us or punished us when we told the first lie. If that act was appreciated the first time u wld conclude that is the right thing to do.
True! And thats why its gonna be v.difficult for Krishna to change bcoz, he doesnt think he does ny wrong and when Pratigya tries to point out why she hates him/cant love him, he acts according to wat he thinks is right... Thats wat Krishna's problem is and he really NEEDS to fix that problem. He doesnt really listen to Pratigya, given his 'professorayi jhad rahi ho', 'mard' and 'aurat pair ki jooti' mentality - So, I dont really see why is it Pratigya's responsiblity to go out of her way to understand someone she hates! Its not like Krishna being uneducated and uncivilized and wanting to be in denial is her fault!!!
7) an abuser wld continue to abuse her not back off after that incident thats all i can say
8) Okay let me get this correct. I never said he had a childhood was horrible. He was lucky that he was not molested or abused when he was growing up. It is a bit harsh to say tough luck you had a shitty background but you can't use that as excuse for the way you act. I don't think children who go thro such lives will ever grow up to be normal and it is going to effect their actions later in their life. It is like saying a women who had to live the ordeal of rape will find it difficult to have physical relation. You cannot say well tough luck u got raped get over it. If such ppl do anything wrong the law gives them an opportunity to redeem themselves not hand in capital punishment. My point was he was never taught to be able to differentiate between right or wrong. His acts- like bullying other people was applauded by his loved ones when he was growing up. What do you think he will do when he grows up?
Agree and like I said most of the Pratigya-fans do expect Krishna's antic behaviors but we too like Krishna a lot and u can say we r expecting him to change too soon and so find his actions disappointing... And again, its not Pratigya's fault the way Krishna grew up and after everything that he did to her and everything that she thinks he did to her - doesnt make it her responsibility to understand why in the world he acts the way he does... She doesnt even think of his love as true love (duh! I think even Krishna doesnt know that his love is the honest and true type; I bet he compares his love to the filmy ishtyle! 😆) and his actions are only increasing her hatred towards him, so how can u expect her to try and understand him or look at him without giving him 'cold stares'???
9) Again his violent outburst was not because he luved her it was because he never understood her behaviour towards him - True!!! And it was his true love - which I think even he is unaware of - stopped him from stooping to the lowest and crossing all the lines!!! Again, I dont think its Pratigya's fault/responsibility that Krishna doesnt understand her behavior when she clearly expresses her feelings of dislike towards him!!! And u want her to stop giving Krishna the 'cold stares'!!! How will he ever know Pratigya's hatred/behavior then? Not like he knew ny better till the outburst!!!😆 Iwonder if he knows now how Pratigya feels towards him...
10)How do you think he shld have reacted the next morining? He has tried to make efforts to talk to her he gets ignored and made to feel like a worm, he tried an arguing with her previous nite he was hurt emotionally (pls don't tell me just because he was angry he didn't get hurt emotionally). We all have done it at some point in life to hide our pain behind anger. Shld he come said sorry can we start again because we all know how that wld have ended Prats giving him another cold stare
I expected Krishna to ignore her given he is BABA who got his way with everything in his life except for the prev.night 😛!!! And I agree, he was hurt emotionally but he brought it on himself by thinking that the honeymoon is going to be ny different than the wedding night even after Pratigya refused his roses and gave him cold stares!!! And just to remind u, Pratigya was hurt emotionally and physically as well and she didnt bring it on herself bcoz she expressed her hatred to him again and again and it was normal that she would refuse him and 'his rights as husband'!!!
Hey no offence taken in addressing my comments. I appreciate that u r doing it quite amicably and not hinting that i am a sadist b----- who has no idea abt what Prats is going thro and relishes Krish inflicting pain on her.
Hey dont worry! Ur points are nything but sadist!😆 Like I said, I find ur comments v.reasonable and I am glad that u know wat Pratigya is going through as well unlike a lots of Krishna-lubers!😃

Edited by limits - 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: -athena-

@Merarai:Before I take a plung...here is a hello from me..*waves hands*

No matter whichever way you like to put it forth, the fact of the matter is Pratigya was forced into the situation that she is in....simply because she is a 'girl'...PERIOD...and I cant believe you are time and again calling her self defense act of slapping that thug as the reason for her downfall...😕.



Hi there! 😊I do believe every action taken by male or female impacts the direction of one's life. When we are taught as young children to think before you act, it was for a reason.........esp. if you were a girl/woman in a male-dominated society all over the world. That's a fact however trivial or serious the issue. I know of a real life case that happened some years ago when a girl slapped a man for putting the Angad moves on her. He was out for revenge and a few weeks later, in a crowded bus stabbed her to death. The fact is also that a man can physically overpower a woman unless she is able to defend herself with martial arts, etc. but not all the time. All over the world women face the same issue. The reality of the situation is while some women may defend herself successfully, if the perpetrator of the offense wasn't going to walk away quietly, he was out for revenge then she is going to live in fear looking over her shoulder not knowing when and where she would confront him again. So in that context, in a male-dominated society where people are willing to watch from the sidelines rather than step in to aid a helpless woman, it's better to be safe than sorry. Future generations of young boys should be taught tat an early age to respect women at a very young age and they need to see that in action in their own homes and families, if it's going to make a difference at all. Laws have to be enacted to protect women so that they have a legal recourse for abuse, manhandling, groping etc. and not just for serious crimes like assault, rape and sometimes murder.

Slapping Angad was the beginning of the downward spiral because he was out for revenge. He followed her home, chased her down the streets of Allahabad not giving up, and she was running scared trying to get back home every time she went out anywhere. Angad wanted Krishna to kidnap her. He came there but didn't do it, instead fell for her. She started hiding the happenings from her family bec' she didn't want to worry them which only created more problems with Angad continuing to take things further. So in that context, she set off a chain reaction to the events that unfolded in her life that has brought her to where she is at now, hating her husband and set on teaching him a lesson. I am a strong believer in individual rights for every man, woman and child. There is however a reality out there with its own set of limitations. Had Pratigya realized the limitations out there bec' she was a girl she would have acted differently maybe. But we'll never know bec' Pearl Grey created a different storyline for Pratigya.😃 She was "forced" into her situation bec of one action, even if done in self-defense, that got out of control. Too bad that men and women do live by different standards, it's the physical reality and the nature of the beast. Unless and until boys and men in society the world over learn to respect women this problem will exist no matter which part of the world we choose to examine. Phew! I finished my essay. Time to move on.😊
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Originally posted by: MERARAI



Hi there! 😊I do believe every action taken by male or female impacts the direction of one's life. When we are taught as young children to think before you act, it was for a reason.........esp. if you were a girl/woman in a male-dominated society all over the world. That's a fact however trivial or serious the issue. I know of a real life case that happened some years ago when a girl slapped a man for putting the Angad moves on her. He was out for revenge and a few weeks later, in a crowded bus stabbed her to death. The fact is also that a man can physically overpower a woman unless she is able to defend herself with martial arts, etc. but not all the time. All over the world women face the same issue. The reality of the situation is while some women may defend herself successfully, if the perpetrator of the offense wasn't going to walk away quietly, he was out for revenge then she is going to live in fear looking over her shoulder not knowing when and where she would confront him again. So in that context, in a male-dominated society where people are willing to watch from the sidelines rather than step in to aid a helpless woman, it's better to be safe than sorry. Future generations of young boys should be taught tat an early age to respect women at a very young age and they need to see that in action in their own homes and families, if it's going to make a difference at all. Laws have to be enacted to protect women so that they have a legal recourse for abuse, manhandling, groping etc. and not just for serious crimes like assault, rape and sometimes murder.

Slapping Angad was the beginning of the downward spiral because he was out for revenge. He followed her home, chased her down the streets of Allahabad not giving up, and she was running scared trying to get back home every time she went out anywhere. Angad wanted Krishna to kidnap her. He came there but didn't do it, instead fell for her. She started hiding the happenings from her family bec' she didn't want to worry them which only created more problems with Angad continuing to take things further. So in that context, she set off a chain reaction to the events that unfolded in her life that has brought her to where she is at now, hating her husband and set on teaching him a lesson. I am a strong believer in individual rights for every man, woman and child. There is however a reality out there with its own set of limitations. Had Pratigya realized the limitations out there bec' she was a girl she would have acted differently maybe. But we'll never know bec' Pearl Grey created a different storyline for Pratigya.😃 She was "forced" into her situation bec of one action, even if done in self-defense, that got out of control. Too bad that men and women do live by different standards, it's the physical reality and the nature of the beast. Unless and until boys and men in society the world over learn to respect women this problem will exist no matter which part of the world we choose to examine. Phew! I finished my essay. Time to move on.😊

Yes, slapping Angad did start all the later events and I think thats just one-way in which the CVs decided to take the show further ahead... Bcoz, lets just suppose she didnt slap Angad, then Angad wouldnt be bent on getting revenge, BUT, given that they live in the same place and can come across each other quite often, how long do u think Angad would have continued with his disgusting comments and how long do u expect her to tolerate such thing??? Most normal girls have been tolerating these stuff and THATS WHY the society is the way it is... Someone was brave enough to slap a jerk and she got stabbed... Someone else was brave enough to slap a freak and that started a downward spiral that ruined her life... So why should we girls bother into getting such trouble given that the society is the way it is??? We should just tolerate these stuff and let the society be as it is! How in the world will the society ever change if we let go of watever eave-teasing we received by thinking that we will get into trouble??? Even as I am writing these, I am not sure that I am capable of being soo brave as to stand against society/jerks bcoz I dont really know how it feels to be teased in public or stand up against those kind of freaks BUT I can atleast encourage someone who did stand up and only then, the society is gonna change!!! If I start to tell her that u shouldnt have done wat u did and now u ruined urs and ur family's life, how would ny girl ever dare to stand up against such jerk or society??? I do agree with wat u said in the first para, but, if girls just tolerate everything that they go through thinking that she will get into trouble, how will the society/law know that it needs to be CHANGED???

Why dont u ask urself, WHY did she start hiding the happenings from her family in the first place??? She was soo scared and desperate for someone to talk to and so she talked to her friend Roli BUT WHY DIDNT SHE TALK TO HER FAMILY??? What gave her the idea that her family would worry to begin with??? When Shyam Saxena knew about the incident, he started looking pale and made her feel like wat she did was wrong, when she talked to her sister Arushi, she got even more scared and made her feel guilty, when the whole family came to know, dadi told her she would be responsible if nything happens to her brother - HOW can she or nyone who loves their family tell them about the things she went through after getting such reaction??? And is it her fault that her family doesnt understand and is just like most of everyone else in the society??? I dont think so!!! Its her kind of family that needs to change NOT ny girl like Pratigya!!!

Since u r a strong believer in ny individual's right, I am sure u must know that a woman has to fight even more than a man for her rights BCOZ the society is the way it is!!! If women are NOT strong enough to even step out of the limitations set up by the male-leading society, HOW CAN THEY EVER GET THEIR RIGHTS??? Its bcoz Pratigya IS a girl that I consider her act of slapping a jerk as bravery and a sign of a strong woman! Do u think she didnt know wat would the results be for messing with such jerks??? Why else did she tolerate his disgusting comments instead of slapping him right then and there??? When she slapped Angad, it wasnt bcoz she was hot-temper, I think it was bcoz she was scared and angry at his nasty attempt to touch her after all those nasty comments!!!
If a woman tolerates the eave-teasing just to stay within the society's limitations, what is SHE ever going to teach her sons/future-generation that might bring a change??? If its a girl, she will go ahead and tell her to stay within the society's limitations, if its a guy, she will tell him its not a good thing to do and guys who listen to their mothers will probably not do so BUT wat about those who dont??? How in the world r they going to change if there in no law against eave-teasers??? AND how can there be ny law against eave-teasers if the women/girls just tolerate the teasing to stay within the society's limitations bcoz if they r tolerating such stuff no one will ever know that these women/girls were teased!!!
Now, I think, in this serial, everything/action thats related to Krishna is completely fictional!!! BCOZ, I think the character Krishna is completely a fictional character and I dont think many guys can relate to Krishna whereas many girls can relate to Pratigya!!! I really dont think there is ny guy who would try his best to bring together the earth & sky just to marry a girl!!! So, I dont want to relate Pratigya's eave-teasing reality to Krishna's fictional love....
I totally agree with Athena when she says Pratigya was forced into the situation that she is in....simply because she is a 'girl'...PERIOD...
Bcoz, if it was a guy who slapped Angad for teasing Pratigya, the whole scenario would be a little-bit different in that u wouldnt get to blame Pratigya for her downfall but I am not sure if u would blame that guy either!!! Given how the character Angad is, I bet he would have continued with his revenge plan against Pratigya, simply bcoz she is a girl and easier to deal with!
I think her 'self-defense' was the proof of her bravery and her attempt to change the society where jerks can tease girls in front of the people of the society who just kept glued to their seats, watching the teasing and thinking why should we step out of the limitations of the society!!! AND its Angad, Krishna, her family and the society thats responsible for the situation to go out of control and 'forcing' Pratigya to make a 'choice' between Marrying a stalker or Watching her family and herself suffer in humiliation and fear; NOT Pratigya's fault for being strong to step out of society's limitations!!!
YaY!!! Me is finally done!!! ThAnX for reading this long opinion!!!😃
Edited by limits - 15 years ago
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ruhi yaar very well written. dont really have much to add to what you said you covered everything.
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plzzz can anyone give me pratigya wedding piks in serial...i want some beautiful pics of pratigya

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