Pracchand Ashok - Episode Discussion Thread #1 - Page 55

Originally posted by: chabalas

Initially may be looks and costumes might draw audience towards a show but later story telling, acting and progression keeps you hooked. His clownery scenes in KA were so good, here he is failing miserably in that area as well I think he is a director’s actor and need good guidance to emote better on screen!

That's why I prefer rewatching KA! Yeah, director's actor he really is. Director should also not be lazy.

Originally posted by: Yashikha16

Even if he doesn't, does the director or editor or production team or whomever responsible for making those shows, not tell him to look at it or improve upon his acting and expressions?

@Red: Truth

@Green: What actually needs to be done.

Originally posted by: NostalgiaLove

Yes I knew she was Ganga from Star Mahabharat. Seleucus' daughter had dark black hair due to her parents. She looked more like a latina due to mixture of genes than a blonde Scandinavian woman. Rakshanda is still a much better casting than those who played Helena before. Mallika as young Helena would be suitable. 😂 Also if paired up with Chetan, it makes best Chandragupta-Helena jodi as it would be historically accurate but audiences are so primitive they won't be able to digest the reality and situations of ancient times. That's why ITV and Bollywood were never able to produce good historicals because audiences are so sensitive and start questioning morality without thinking if this was considered amoral they wouldn't have done it. 😒

, if actors are told about this they would be absolutely shocked 😲😂🤣 Mallika would have definitely questioned this 🤣😂

@bold "audience are so primitive" 🤣🤣 more like audience are so colonized 😂😂. Women at that time in ancient India didn't wear any upper garments but both wore the lower garments. Plus, people of those times were closer to being cavemen and primitives not now😂😂. But I get your point. We live in a society where everyone has to be morally correct or sanskari that anything else, it's considered shameless or immoral.

I doubt if actors did any research at all.

Originally posted by: Yashikha16

@bold "audience are so primitive" 🤣🤣 more like audience are so colonized 😂😂. Women at that time in ancient India didn't wear any upper garments but both wore the lower garments. Plus, people of those times were closer to being cavemen and primitives not now😂😂. But I get your point. We live in a society where everyone has to be morally correct or sanskari that anything else, it's considered shameless or immoral.

I doubt if actors did any research at all.

They wore upper garments, not just overly over. Men didn't wear shirts though. Yup everything should be sanskari on ITV, it's not black and white. Eg- Vidisha's king and Karu like relationship did exist and women couldn't do anything about it, it happened for alliances rather than love. Sometimes feudatory kings themselves offered these girls to gain favours. So Ashok and Devi being so agitated about this is weird. Look at Bindusara, he considers it perfectly normal 😂🤣

Originally posted by: chabalas

If people on PA set are not conveying the required message, may be his friends and family could but someone has to give him honest feedback, explain him where things are going wrong and make him work towards correcting those areas. Honestly, I wish Ravi Bhushan could guide him 🤞

Same here! His brother seems to be his harshest critic apparently. I don't know though if he's even watching the show or not.

Ravi Bhushan or not, but both the actor and new director should have known on the get go! And maybe worked with it, at least when filming! Come on, we being from non-filming industry or non-acting background, we get to somehow know that better than those experts in filmmaking.

And the clownary mentioned before, the ones a CEO of Earthcon does in modern times should differ from that being done by royals back in the age, but the CEO's seems to have more suave and royalty than that of a Prince of those time and age bygone and that's the reason it's all cringe.

My vision... Forget it!! I don't have any vision for this show!! I don't even know what the actual planned story is!!!

Originally posted by: Yashikha16

I am still trying to wrap my head around this 1. I never went to an Indian school, and our history was mostly about how the Dutch found our island and how the French and Brits ruled Mauritius and the different settlements who came, including our ancestors from Africa, India and China.

Who are the @bold names here? And yeah, Indian civilization is way older than Egyptian and Greek civilization. I mean, Ramayan and Mahabharat are such proofs.

I know the @underlined facts.

Sandrocottus is Greek name for Chandragupta and first time William Jones found it out but new scholars say Sandrocottus was not Chandragupta but Samudragupta as Chronology have been compromised in previous works by historians. Still Ashok mentioning Antiochus (son or grandson of Seleucus) in his inscription refutes this.

Originally posted by: Yashikha16

I am still trying to wrap my head around this 1. I never went to an Indian school, and our history was mostly about how the Dutch found our island and how the French and Brits ruled Mauritius and the different settlements who came, including our ancestors from Africa, India and China.

Who are the @bold names here? And yeah, Indian civilization is way older than Egyptian and Greek civilization. I mean, Ramayan and Mahabharat are such proofs.

I know the @underlined facts.

I have read 8 mandals of Rig Veda and trust me our civilization is more than atleast 17000 years old. In Rig Veda even Ghrit (Ghee or clarified butter) is praised for its nutritional value, looks like it was a big discovery that time and it has been used in food for more than 10000 years. Rig Veda is the biggest evidence of antiquity of the civilization.

Originally posted by: NostalgiaLove

They wore upper garments, not just overly over. Men didn't wear shirts though. Yup everything should be sanskari on ITV, it's not black and white. Eg- Vidisha's king and Karu like relationship did exist and women couldn't do anything about it, it happened for alliances rather than love. Sometimes feudatory kings themselves offered these girls to gain favours. So Ashok and Devi being so agitated about this is weird. Look at Bindusara, he considers it perfectly normal 😂🤣

@1st Bold: Yup, I know. It was unfortunate really, but was a fact of life at that time. Don't forget harems where girls were forcefully brought and bought and selected, never again to be seen by their families and friends.

@2nd Bold: Wait really?! This is insane that they're even bothered. All part of the story, I understand, but still it's inaccurate like the whole show itself. Assign a personal director to Adnan to make this show at least 10% more bearable!!

Originally posted by: Yashikha16

I am still trying to wrap my head around this 1. I never went to an Indian school, and our history was mostly about how the Dutch found our island and how the French and Brits ruled Mauritius and the different settlements who came, including our ancestors from Africa, India and China.

Who are the @bold names here? And yeah, Indian civilization is way older than Egyptian and Greek civilization. I mean, Ramayan and Mahabharat are such proofs.

I know the @underlined facts.

Som Ras wasn't Wine 🍷 but a juice extracted from a yellow plant (possibly ephedra). It's leaves and stems were crushed under stones and juice was extracted from it to make a drink and used as libation for gods. This juice was sometimes mixed with milk or curd. It's written it's juice had cured leprosy as well. Standing in front of sun for hours also cured skin diseases and leprosy. That's why Ancient Rishis made standing in front of morning and evenings sun and praying it as a ritual as layman could benefit from it and get proper.vitamin D and required energy.

Source- Rig Veda and commentary by SayanAcharya

Originally posted by: NostalgiaLove

I have read 8 mandals of Rig Veda and trust me our civilization is more than atleast 17000 years old. In Rig Veda even Ghrit (Ghee or clarified butter) is praised for its nutritional value, looks like it was a big discovery that time and it has been used in food for more than 10000 years. Rig Veda is the biggest evidence of antiquity of the civilization.

About the Rig Veda, we have all the 4 Védas at home. But the 1st of the 18 Rig Veda books (the Rig Veda is divided in 18 books), it has only "introduction" throughout the 100 or so pages. So, never really was able to read it.