DOTW: IV A Few Unanswered Questions - Page 2

Pri, Pia's character was to develop gradually but I guess the creative hurried up. I somehow still see some reason for her changes. Bani wanted to divorce Munna at that time so what she grasped from that situation was that her sister and Munna were not happy in their marriage, the only thread that connected them was their unborn child and that's why Jai cared for Bani and not loved her. She drugged and raped him for the simple reason that Jai would not haven give into her as a support system in full and not displayed his vulnerability to her until he gets weak. Drugging him just made him weak and allowed him to open up to her. He shrugged her off every time and refused her advances too in India when he was fully conscious. She did not intend to sleep with him I guess but it just happened but even if it was deliberate on her part she did it to make sure that Munna accepts her next morning, as the only person who genuinely cared for him, who was there to help him when he needed it and she gave herself physically to soothe his pain. Munna in all his guilt would have accepted her or something on this line would have happened. And no one would have questioned Jai's decision to marry Pia.

Sahil's case still eludes me. May be someone is playing the game and making Sahil and Pia believe that they were the mastermind behind JW's destruction.

I guess JW never married post his break up with Roshini because he never found someone suitable enough for himself. He was never attracted to the females who threw themselves at him. With Pia the case was different. She came as a wind that shook his foundation and was least bothered about the consequences that she would face flirting with JW. I too was against Jai for proposing to Pia but then I see from other side now. ND sent his daughter to JW clearly indicating that he has forgiven him (of a crime that he never committed) and why should JW reel under the guilt of a crime he did not commit deliberately. It was just an accident and it was not as if he ran away from the spot. He offered to help.

His anger to an extent was justified post marriage because what B-P-P did was deliberately done on their part. And what hurt him most was the fact that he trusted these people, who harped about moral values et al.

As for why no one apologized to Munna well that is because he is an idiot of the highest order. Why will any one apologize to him when he refers to himself as a culprit rather than a victim? Rano is the only one who considers him victim.

Bani never attracted JW because she had nothing different to offer other than her integrity, loyalty and hard work. Pia challenged the male egos of Pushky and JW. She flirted with them openly without thinking about the consequences. Bani was simple, Pia was patakha type.

Bani fell for Munna when she saw his hurt and pain. She was attracted to a part of his personality that only she saw and no one else, that behind that tough faade lies a man who feels pain and needs TLC too just like everyone else to soothe his pain, who wanted to share his life with someone.

Why Bani never trust Jai, well all I can say that it's all in the genes. I hope KW does not inherit the same trait. Bani puts her family first and foremost to everyone even Munna. And I will not be surprised if she preferred Pia and her child over KW tomorrow and announces a temple in dedicated memory of her late GFN parents.

I use to hold god opinion about Jigs a few days back because she against all odds was a good mother who cared enough for her children but now even that seems like a sham. Why is she still hell bent on destroying JB's marriage. Whether she likes it or not, Walia heir is here to stay be it Pia's or Bani's. She has lost her only loyal son and Ranveer is in no mood to entertain her. What is she actually planning to do now? I think Aditya and her marriage ended because they both never shared same outlook towards life. I cannot say about Ranveer

How come Pia transformed from a silly, selfish woman but caring sister to a rapist? Hmmm…thinking and trying to understand Pia is not worth it to me as I detest her anyway. Infact, right from the start I did not like Pia's character nor RC's acting. (No offence to RC's fans)

How come Sahil the angootha chhaap statue became the Prof. Moriarty of KS? It's the result of transformation of KS from a romantic and enduring show into a silly, illogical, rubbish sitcom.

JAI WALIA

Hmm I think Rosh and Jai were on the verge of break-up. I don't think there was really any love between them. Probably after his break up with Rosh and of course the stupidest curse from ND, I think Jai might have lost interest in marriage at that point of time. With all his concentration going into his business, he might have not spared a thought about marriage. But I don't think Jai was really affected by unhappy marriage life of Krishna Walia and Jigyasa Bali. I mean he was always portrayed as that kind of person who believed in the institution of marriage and children. Even with Rosh, he proposed marriage but it was Rosh who did not want a marriage.

JW had known that he had killed Kiran. And yet he thought it fit to propose to Pia and later marry Bani, and ill-treat them. Seems to be a rather huge indictment of JW's character. What made him do such a nasty thing overlooking his own past misdeeds? As you said it, it was one of the huge indictments of JW's character. That was one of the major flaws of his character and one of the things I really hated about him. I think initially, he felt responsible for the accident and that is why he opted to help the three sisters out. Despite the rejections and oppositions from his own family members, he felt that it was his responsibility to take care of the three sisters and he just did that. He gave them shelter and of course the job. But when he fell in love when Pia, I guess he thought he should just propose to her and hide the truth from her as telling the truth would jeopardize him from getting Pia. He already had problems due to the age difference between them and if this truth was also known then he can just forget about marring Pia. When Pia ran away, his anger and hurt blinded him. It just blinded him from seeing that Bani was also affected as mush as he was from the betrayal from her own sister and her best friend. His anger blinded him from seeing that he was hurting himself and Bani in the process. It's just that anger and defeat that made him act that way. Another reason, he is a person who has not really faced a defeat but now was defeated by a girl who actually lives and depends on him for her own survival. It's a defend of lowest kind according to him. It hurt his ego. You know what I mean. Hence, his behavior to Bani and her sisters. But we cant also forget the fact that JW started feeling guilty for treating Bani badly after his anger was cooled a bit but mostly because of his behavior. Ideally, he should have felt guilty for his own misdeeds he did to the sisters and their mother but he never did. He was in the height of his hypocrisy.😕😉😆

The night in Dubai damaged both J-B. But perhaps it devastated JW even more than Bani for the simple reason that while Bani had a lot of emotional support during her trauma, JW was left to fend for himself with possibly only Karuna (and even she may have some hidden agenda) for support. He was in fact meted out some fairly horific treatment by the GFNs. And yet even after he has been found to be innocent, no one-Bani, Maasi, Dadi, Adi, Jigs, Rano, Pushkar- has ever expressed any regret for what was done to JW or offered any healing touch to him. In fact barring perhaps Rano no one has even admitted that what had happened was an attack on JW as well. Why? Is it because he is still considered guilty? Or is it really JW's fault- that he had failed as a hubby/bro/uncle/father/son/friend and so no one has really been able to trust him in the crisis or develop any sense of empathy for him when he was found to be innocent? One thing Pri, firstly we cant measure who was affected more simply because here we are talking about emotions. Emotions are not commodities to measure. If it's hurt, it's hurt. A hurt which might be a perceived to be simple one to one might be a biggest hurt to another. So lets not measure who was affected more and who was affected less. Again ideally, massi, and all the other GFN's must have apologized to JW for their behavior. But I don't see why Bani should apologise.😕 She should lend her support to him which she did after she came to know that he was raped but she don't need to apologise. 😊Because, she did not throw him out of the house, Massi did. She did not want to accept the WC business stuff but Massi and other's challenged her to do it. In the whole ONS issue, Bani was the only one who did not pass any judgements about Jai nor sprouted any hurtful words against him. According to me, what Bani considers betrayal was the fact that Jai hid it from her and that is really betrayal. Bani's trust was broken badly Pri. Consider this, Bani has never once thought anything wrong about Jai and Pia when she clearly knows that Jai once loved Pia. And it was not only because it was her sister involved but even after she started loving him, Bani never once thought that Jai might still love Pia and not her. Like when Jai wanted Pia to stay in his house after the abortion, Bani only accused him of trying to breakup PP but she never accused him of having feeling for Pia. She trusted Jai and she believed completely that Jai only loves her and when she saw Jai holding and kissing his ex-flame, just imagine how it must have felt to her. Moreover, Bani suspected him but Jai clearly dismissed it making it even worse. Bani does not hold JW responsible for the ONS but the post ONS behavior he is hold responsible. But now even that is forgiven. 😊As of Bani asking Rano that if she can forgive Jai why not forgive Bani. Again to me, Bani was referring to the post-ONS behavior which she forgive him anyways. Bani trusts Jai…I have more explanation down. Don't jump at me now itself.😆

BANI

Bani first fell for or rather was infatuated with Pushkar. Later of course she fell for JW big time. But interestingly neither JW nor Pushkar fell for her but fell for Pia instead. Why? Was it because Pia is prettier (assume that that is the case without comparing RC/PD's looks)? Or was it because Pia was lively and Bani was serious? Or was it because Bani being so confident did not attract the same interest as damsel-in-distress Pia? Okay I have cracked my brains number of times why these two guys fell for Pia but I was never able to come up with a very satisfying answer.😕😕😉 Especially JW falling for Pia amuse me big time.🤢😕 Hmm…after much thinking (I do think about Jai Pri😉), Jai had a very serious life style. Like a boring business, boring business parties, a damn boring sister🤢, everything was so boring and serious in his life and house. Jai, I think, want to be fun and he likes funny people like Adi, dadi and Pushkar. 😊He might have wanted to be like them but never really got a chance to be one. No one really encouraged him to be one and even if he tried, everyone will give him amused looks and I guess eventually he just became serious and remained one. He was also never challenged. Everyone listened to him and followed his instruction including Bani. And then came Pia, she was bubbly and straight forward. She challenged him. For the first time, someone else was suggesting an idea to him. Asked him to wear blue jeans and red pullover.🤢 I guess all these attracted to him. (sorry Pri, I don't want to discuss more about this. Blue jeans and red pullover🤢🤢🤢 really put me down big time and I don't want to think too much things about Pia). Who cares if Pushkar feel for Pia.😆😆😆 I was happy that he stayed far away from Bani as I really love their friendship and I did not want it to morph into any other relationship.😃😛

Why did she fall in love with JW in spite of his being a horrid hubby to her? Because he was rich and HOT? No no… it was never about looks and money. I mean Jai was hot before also but she never fell from him. Was it because of her sanskaars as a good wife? Not exactly. Was it because she appreciated the good side of his personality? Or did she fall in love with him because his sense of hurt at betrayal in love opened her to his softer side? It's a mix of hurt and then his good personality. 😳😳Bani was the only one who stood by Jai really close (literally and otherwise) and was able to see his hurt. She was able to relate to his hurt as she herself was hurt. And then, she related to his loneliness in life and how much he missed his mother. Even though, Bani had her sisters, she was never complete. She was never able to be herself with them and same for Jai. Bani realized that she is just a mirror image of Jai in many sense, right from their childhood to their current hurt. And of course, she got to see his good personality and she has always respected Jai and her respect for him only increase by being with him. Of course, not to forget the jealousy and the fear that someone (Rosh) might take away her private property😳😳, I mean someone close😳😳 to her, from her. I guess all these made her fall and fall big time for JW.

Ever since the PR raaz crisis she has never shown any particular trust in JW, whether it was the divorce-alimony- miscarriage fiasco, or the ONS or the Sahil murder case? Why does she so much mistrust the man she claims to and probably loves very much as well? Is it any fault on her part or is it that JW's own actions have hardly inspired any trust in her? Okay now to the part where we both love to disagree.😆 For me Bani trusts Jai. It is a simple as that. Pri, for example and touchwood, if someone else does something bad to my parents behind their back and I think I could handle it by myself and hence decide not to tell my parents due to the fear that it would hurt them, it does not mean that I mistrust my parents nor their judgements. It's simply my fear and also my love for them that prevents me from telling them. Well, it might not be the best thing but we human being and emotional people and sometimes we take decisions from our heart rather than brain. When you love someone unconditionally, you would not have courage to see them hurt. You simple would not have the courage and that was precisely Bani's stage. And that was precisely Jai's stage during ONS. All these has nothing to do with mistrusting that particular person. And also we must consider Bani's childhood. She had one difficult childhood. She faced a lot of financial difficulties. She might have even had difficulties with day to day's activities. And Bani did not have anyone's support and she knows how terrible it would be to face such a situation. That's why she decided that Jai's property is important. Because she knew not many people would stand by Jai if he loses his property. She would never be able to see Jai face the same situation as her. She knows how difficult and terrible it would be and she could never imagine Jai in that stage. And that's why she decided to save his property. Her method was absurd and she could have told others about it but her personality is not like that. Like, from childhood, be it any problem, she faced it herself. She never had anyone to guide her and support her. She was always used to making decisions and that has become the part of her personality. Our childhood decides our personality and Bani's childhood made her one who takes their own decisions without any help from anyone. And that is why Bani started handling things herself. It's just her personality. It has got nothing to do with mistrusting Jai and his judgements. Like Jai's personality is being hot-tempered and he can't avoid it. When he is angry, he calls Bani in possibly the worst words a woman can be called. But that does not mean he actually means it and thinks that Bani is a very cheap girl. It's personality Pri. And of course, her fear that Jai might be hurt only goes to show how much she loves (not claims to love) Jai. Her decisions might not be right but we cant really blame her because that's how she is, an emotional person who makes her decision with heart rather than brain. ONS issue, who wouldn't suspect after all the clues that are being displayed. Initially she did not feel anything wrong but it after Rano told her and when Jai also standing with his head down cast made her suspect. She was also able to read Jai's eyes. Like she once questioned him on why he seems to be distant when her and it seems that they are not the same. And Sahil's case, well, one- fear of hurting Jai (how it would hurt him, don't ask me), two, manipulated by Tarun when he brought in Jai's name. Initially Bani wanted to tell Jai but Tarun manipulated her. And well, now she told Jai everything and thank god for that.😃

My favourite topic- the Dixits. She abandoned JW and subjected him to substantial emotional torture during the PR crisis and yet once she found out the truth has never regretted her parents actions? Pia has not only destroyed her life but destroyed JW's life on two occasions the second one perhaps more brutally. Yet Bani has never regreted what Pia has done to him. Why? Is it because she still considers JW guilty? Or could it be that whatever love she received has been from her own family which makes her very enamoured of them to side against them for JW's sake. And could be it that very simply JW has never been the kind of husband who could have won her undivided loyalty? You already now my stand on this… But Bani does not hold Jai guilty for anyone. And pri finally I found out (Bani's characteristics rubbing on me) how Bani would react if anyone hurt her. She is the kind who moves away from the person if they hurt her. She is not the kind to question or create scene but will just move away from that person. Like in divorce case, she just simply wanted to go away from Jai. And now with Pia also, she never questioned her nor created a scene, she simply moved away from Pia. So, it's her way of reacting to hurt and possibly punishing people.

JIGYASA/KIDS

Do I really have to bother about Jigs and her kids? Well let me try.

She is shown as a frustrated, wicked, cunning but ultimately an incompetent vamp? Why is she like this, was it that she was a wicked person by nature to begin with? Or have her experiences with life embittered her?

What is the precise nature of her relationship with her brother? There seems to be little caring and affection between the two. Why is she so estranged from her bro? Is it because she has resented JW's preference for relative outsiders (Adi, Karuna, Pushkar, the Dixits)? Or was it really the other way round- that it was Jigs' selfishness and lack of love and trust which had driven JW to seek solace in others? For Jigs, she come first and she only comes first. Not even her kids even if she claims to be so. If she really cares for her children, she would be happy for her kids and would not actually try to separate them (Rano-sahil). So, would she really care about her brother?!? I doubt so,

And finally, why did her marriage with Adi break up? Was it plainly because Jigs was a bad woman? Was it because both were very young and immature when they married and could not handle the additional pressure that the kids brought on the relationship? Or was it because Adi could not be as successful and as rich as JW, plainly he couldn't be the man that her Bro was? Hmm… Adi was brilliant enough to actually leave that lady. Seriously, Jigs is a kind of person I think would want to rule in everything and probably Adi did not give in to her and hence divorce.

All their kids seem to be fairly maladjusted individuals. Was it that their unhappy marriage had never allowed them to mature as individuals or simply poor genetics or just plain bad luck? Lack of attention and proper love and care from both parents. I mean individually they were guiding their kids and Adi and Jigs have contradicting views for everything, hence children bombarded bet the two.

Ranveer had wanted to become a brahmachari and seemed to be a bit of a misogynist. Why? Just a randome inspiration in childhood or had his parents bad example created a revulsion towards matrimony and women in him? Ranveer (siddarth) is an eye-candy to watch.😉😃😆 I don't really think about him a lot. Especially now, since he became a weeping willow. I hate spineless people.

I am so sorry for writing so long. Did not even realise it. Hope I did not bore you.😊

Cheers,

Meena

Meena,

(I am so sorry for writing so long. Did not even realise it. Hope I did not bore you.)

Not at all. Loved your answers.

Rgds,

Pri

Meena,

My grouse against Bani is not so much that she makes mistakes but that she resolutely refuses to be either be apologetic about them or learn from them.

Rgds,

Pri

Originally posted by: majumdar

Meena,

My grouse against Bani is not so much that she makes mistakes but that she resolutely refuses to be either be apologetic about them or learn from them.

Rgds,

Pri

Hmm..yah sometimes it puts me down too...But I guess old habits never die.😉😆😆...Besides, on a positive note, she is changing for good. One, during Sahil's issue her first reaction was lets tell Jai. Mind you previously her first reaction was Noone must know about it especially Jai. Welcoming change. Now she also told everything about Sahil issue to Jai and both of them are working together on it. So...i hope her change continues...😉😆😆

great answers everyone! 👍🏼

i enjoyed reading all this! 😛

Right from the time KS has started, it has had an unhappy knack of flitting from one event to another without properly resolving existing issues and leaving behind more riddles than answers. Then again lots of questions/issues which ought to have been raised (for eg. Dixit/Walia/Shukla Parents) were never addressed at all. Particularly the issue of the emotional legacy that parents left behind for their kids. Of course lots of the riddles are downright ridiculous and not worthy of racking our brains. For eg:


How come Pia transformed from a silly, selfish woman but caring sister to a rapist?
***(Ash) I think it was because she always wanted to be famous and rich and if u review the old episodes she has always thought about her happiness and comforts first leaving behind the self respect (even though she was caring, her ambitions took over her affection towards her sister)

How come Sahil the angootha chhaap statue became the Prof. Moriarty of KS?
***(Ash) This one, even I m not able to answer 😕

But there are others which are worth thinking about. Of course we don't have all the facts and a lot of our answers will have to be based on our opinions/prejudices. But let's think about these:


JAI WALIA


JW was a successful tycoon, was engaged briefly to Rosh (probably without any great love on his side) and yet never got married until the age of 40. Why? Was it the breakup of his engagement with Rosh? The knowledge of his role in KD's death? Or was it the unhappy legacy of his parents' marriage?

***(Ash)I think all these reasons together and also he never found a person who cared for being only Jai and always people wanted to be close to him because of his name and fame!

JW had known that he had killed Kiran. And yet he thought it fit to propose to Pia and later marry Bani, and ill-treat them. Seems to be a rather huge indictment of JW's character. What made him do such a nasty thing overlooking his own past misdeeds?

***(Ash) We cannot forget the fact that JW killing KD was never in the script and was added later, but we cannot take this as defense on JW's act. So, he did it probably because he found Pia to be the one who doesnt fear for anything and has a lot of dare and at the same time he had seen her being very loving and caring towarders her sisters and could go to any extent to defend them and this was the reason he fell for Pia (He had never seen her selfishness and whatever he witnessed her ambitions to be her childishness) and as far as marrying Bani is concerned, he never knew he was marrying her and by the time he had to fill her maang, his pheras were complete and once the pheras are done yr are declared married rite?



The night in Dubai damaged both J-B. But perhaps it devastated JW even more than Bani for the simple reason that while Bani had a lot of emotional support during her trauma, JW was left to fend for himself with possibly only Karuna (and even she may have some hidden agenda) for support. He was in fact meted out some fairly horific treatment by the GFNs. And yet even after he has been found to be innocent, no one-Bani, Maasi, Dadi, Adi, Jigs, Rano, Pushkar- has ever expressed any regret for what was done to JW or offered any healing touch to him. In fact barring perhaps Rano no one has even admitted that what had happened was an attack on JW as well. Why? Is it because he is still considered guilty? Or is it really JW's fault- that he had failed as a hubby/bro/uncle/father/son/friend and so no one has really been able to trust him in the crisis or develop any sense of empathy for him when he was found to be innocent?

***(Ash) I think all the crowd never apologised or want to think that he was attacked was because of their thoughts, I mean like there is a saying that let the saree fall on thorns or thorns fall on the saree (its in hindi, something similar which has this meaning), the damage is the saree and if a female rapes a man or a man rapes a female, the culprit is man itself!


BANI

Bani first fell for or rather was infatuated with Pushkar. Later of course she fell for JW big time. But interestingly neither JW nor Pushkar fell for her but fell for Pia instead. Why? Was it because Pia is prettier (assume that that is the case without comparing RC/PD's looks)? Or was it because Pia was lively and Bani was serious? Or was it because Bani being so confident did not attract the same interest as damsel-in-distress Pia?
***(Ash) I think both of them fell for Pia because of her lively nature, her looks (I m not comparing RC/PD here, as its been told that Pia is prettier) and for her boldness! And also naturally first the man falls for beauty and her charm and she had it all and Bani was sober! Its like hot and cold!

Why did she fall in love with JW in spite of his being a horrid hubby to her? Because he was rich and HOT? Was it because of her sanskaars as a good wife? Was it because she appreciated the good side of his personality? Or did she fall in love with him because his sense of hurt at betrayal in love opened her to his softer side?
***(Ash)I think she it was because of his nature and his good side. Even though he was hard from outside, he was very emotional and she saw him sailing in the same boat as she does. But to fall in love u dont need a reason rite 😉

Ever since the PR raaz crisis she has never shown any particular trust in JW, whether it was the divorce-alimony- miscarriage fiasco, or the ONS or the Sahil murder case? Why does she so much mistrust the man she claims to and probably loves very much as well? Is it any fault on her part or is it that JW's own actions have hardly inspired any trust in her?
***(Ash) U know Pri, I dont want to answer this as its the lack of Ekta's creatives which makes the female not believe her own spouse and even though she claims to trust JW more than anyone and loves him unconditionally, she cannot see him in pain telling the issues 😕


My favourite topic- the Dixits. She abandoned JW and subjected him to substantial emotional torture during the PR crisis and yet once she found out the truth has never regretted her parents actions? Pia has not only destroyed her life but destroyed JW's life on two occasions the second one perhaps more brutally. Yet Bani has never regreted what Pia has done to him. Why? Is it because she still considers JW guilty? Or could it be that whatever love she received has been from her own family which makes her very enamoured of them to side against them for JW's sake. And could be it that very simply JW has never been the kind of husband who could have won her undivided loyalty?
***Its very simple, because Pia is a dixit from blood and JW is not

JIGYASA/KIDS


She is shown as a frustrated, wicked, cunning but ultimately an incompetent vamp? Why is she like this, was it that she was a wicked person by nature to begin with? Or have her experiences with life embittered her?
***She is a wicked person from nature, but was never harmful to her own family or people close to her before Dixits entered to her house and she felt that her powers were being reduced and she was being ignored after their entry into the house and its at time natural for a person to react this way when an outsider tries to take yr position and as she has been the cunning by nature couldnt tolerate this and has turned out to be a vamp

What is the precise nature of her relationship with her brother? There seems to be little caring and affection between the two. Why is she so estranged from her bro? Is it because she has resented JW's preference for relative outsiders (Adi, Karuna, Pushkar, the Dixits)? Or was it really the other way round- that it was Jigs' selfishness and lack of love and trust which had driven JW to seek solace in others?
***She has always loved her brother, but not more than herself! She loves herself more than anyone and she has been the person who has always rcvd all kinds of attention from her brother inspite of her cunning behavior and before Dixits made an entry JW had given all the powers related to household to her and she never had anyone who could rule her out!

And finally, why did her marriage with Adi break up? Was it plainly because Jigs was a bad woman? Was it because both were very young and immature when they married and could not handle the additional pressure that the kids brought on the relationship? Or was it because Adi could not be as successful and as rich as JW, plainly he couldn't be the man that her Bro was?
***(Ash) Its because Adi was very straight forward and also because he didnt have the same fame and name as JW did! she wants to be the centre of attraction where ever she goes and being a Bali she was missing all this, but being JW's sister made her all this fall on her feet!

All their kids seem to be fairly maladjusted individuals. Was it that their unhappy marriage had never allowed them to mature as individuals or simply poor genetics or just plain bad luck?
***It was their parents unhappy marriage and also the way Jigs over ruled everyone made them the way they are

Ranveer had wanted to become a brahmachari and seemed to be a bit of a misogynist. Why? Just a randome inspiration in childhood or had his parents bad example created a revulsion towards matrimony and women in him?

***They never showed the depth of all this in the show and we hv to just guess what the answer his and I think its because of the inspiration as we hv never seen blaming his mom or Dad for their break up! I think KS should hv concentrated on all the other imp characters in depth which could hv made it much more interesting

And Thanks a lot for this Pri, I hope my answers are not as bad as I thought it is 😉 !