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Posted: 11 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: Sofna

IDK Mary but Ishita taking his child is not a small thing. Many a times it is the person closest to the child that end up harming them the most. I'm a mother I would freak out, in the name of care and concern if someone as nice as Ishita even did that w/out my consent.

I felt the issue was handled correctly by imprisoning the parents (I didn't like it), but the whole time Ishita was with Ruhi in hospital the only thought that was running through my mind, what your doing is wrong!
If she could've gne to Shagun y not Raman?

Raman & family will need to apologize, if through Ruhi they find out that it was the airhead dimple who had fed her expired med... but other than that I feel they were right.



I agree that as a parent it is scary, but it was an emergency situation so I am willing to forgive her. Raman too is selectively worried about Ruhi and he often ignores her (like that day on the street when he drove off). He could have taken a moment to think where would Ishita goes with Ruhi anyway if she lived on his doorstep.
Edited by Marybarton - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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MaryBarton:

You, or rather your mom have put your kid to bed, in your own house. You may be drunk, you may be an indifferent parent, but you have dropped her off home with a (responsible!!!!)adult who has then put her to bed, all safe and tucked in. You wake up, to find her missing. No note, no idea where a little girl might be at 2 in the morning.

The person you suspect is absconding, her phone is turned off. There is a lock hanging on her door, her parents are not available at 4 in the morning to tell you if she is there. Its now 9 in the morning, your kid has been missing for over 6 hours. Will you be able to think calmly at the police station? You suspect this woman, who you have fought with, who you don't like at all, and who you have berated and who's sister's wedding you have stopped. Her mom is an enemy of your own mom, this missing woman, with a clear obsession with your kid, has every reason to dislike, or even hate you as well. And... and.. you have found her bracelet inside your house.

If you then don't call the police, and ask them to do whatever it takes to get your kid back from the woman you suspect (rightly) of having abducted her, you are not a bad parent--you are a monster.

You will not think about the pros and cons. You wont wonder if you have been rude, or overreacted. You will think--I want my kid.
Edited by napstermonster - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: napstermonster

MaryBarton:

You, or rather your mom have put your kid to bed, in your own house. You may be drunk, you may be an indifferent parent, but you have dropped her off home with a (responsible!!!!)adult who has then put her to bed, all safe and tucked in. You wake up, to find her missing. No note, no idea where a little girl might be at 2 in the morning.

The person you suspect is absconding, her phone is turned off. There is a lock hanging on her door, her parents are not available at 4 in the morning to tell you if she is there. Its now 9 in the morning, your kid has been missing for over 6 hours, and you will think calmly at the police station? You suspect this woman, who you have fought with, who you don't like at all, and who you have berated and who's sister's wedding you have stopped. Her mom is an enemy of your own mom, she has every reason to dislike, or even hate you as well, and you have found her bracelet inside your house.


If you then don't call the police, and ask them to do whatever it takes to get your kid back from the woman you suspect (rightly) of having abducted her, you are not a bad parent--you are a monster.

You will not think about the pros and cons. You wont wonder if you have been rude, or overreacted. You will think--I want my kid.



That is good alternative thought. At the same time this is the Ishita he wanted to protect when she came to talk calmly to him about Mihika and Mihir. It is also the Ishita who saved Ruhi when she was stuck in a room for an hour when he was not looking out for her. He knows these two good incidents relating to her.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I think Ishita shoots herself in the foot when it comes to Ruhi. She is calm and sensible in all other aspects of her life--as you said, she was the most rational person in the whole Mihir-Meehika debacle. She is truthful, reasonable, and straightforward. I am loving this woman.

But when it comes to Ruhi, something happens, and its not exactly a positive trait. I wont comment on whether this is frustrated mother love, because I'm sure there are people who are inappropriate about other people's kids who still have five kids of their own.

I get the premise is that the "life long love" that Ishita feels will be for Ruhi and not Raman (which is a nice twist). But still, there has to be boundaries, and coming into someone's house, and taking their kid out the door is certainly not! Its an emergency--so you couldn't shout out to the five other non drunk family members, about the frothing little girl? Who would have stopped you from rushing to the hospital when they saw that Ruhi was at death's door?

When it comes to Ruhi, Ishita just...stops thinking. And thats not okay. Ruhi is not hers. Even after she marries Raman in the future, just because she loves Ruhi, that wont give her more rights or more say than Raman has. He is an indifferent father..but he is the father.

No matter what her private thoughts about Ruhi are (which are not based on complete information) Ishita cant just say whatever she wants to this kid's parent, and she can't be surprised if she gets rudeness in response. She does not know anything at all about this kid's background. If she gets the whole barren taunt, now, she has kind of brought it onto herself by being very personal about Raman's weak point.

She is the one who harps on and on about Raman's wife, and surely she can see this is not a topic he is going to welcome! No one would! No matter how worried you are about someone else's kid, you do NOT rudely imply things to single parent about the missing parent!

She is the one who rescues Ruhi from the room, but come on--Ruhi's father had left Ruhi with his date, a relative-by-marriage, who his mom assured him was a capable woman. He was at an awards function, having to do media coverage. He didn't want to bring Ruhi, but the family insisted, and he made alternate arrangements by bringing Ms Pea Green Gown along as a glorified baby-sitter.

The fact that Ishita helped Ruhi from tat room was immediately undercut by her saying, to a comparative stranger (which Raman still is) --you don't know how to care for your daughter, since you are yelling at her for wandering off, I'll take her away from you. No one gets to say that! Its HUGELY inappropriate!

The fact that that evening is when Ruhi goes missing? Dammmn...
Edited by napstermonster - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Aahaana



He didn't literally beat up her parents, he requested them not to touch or restore to violence. Us audience knows the situation hence we are favoring Ishita here but in reality - its her fault. You cannot take somebody child without the parents consent so she would have faced legal issue. She already know he was drunk so why call him up? And she went to Shaguns house so why not go back to Raman n co n wake up his people or inform her own parents?

Her engagement getting called off is good for her as it seems both has different goals in life, this relation would have not worked in the long term. Ishu is emotionally invested in Ruki to actually care for Prateiks career and it would have lead to bigger issues at one point.

He is not responsible for his mothers insults and verbal abuse toward the Iyers.

His fault is that he did not spend time with his child to understand she is very lonely, failed to create bond as she is living exp of his failed marriage and he is not aware of the bond ishu shares with ruki:)

Situations created misunderstanding - she has not seen his good side and he is yet to see hers so its equal here. because we the fans cares for Ruki and Ishu - we turns blind eye to Ishus flaws here!

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I completely agree with you.
In fact I'm quite surprized at the way Raman n his family is getting bashed in the forum for behaving the way yesterday they did, except of course the elder sister , who's completely evil , n completely deserves all the bashing n thrashing.
What Ishita did was pure n simple kidnapping or abducting in the language of law. You just can't do this , pick up a girl from a place with out informing any of her/his family members. This is illegal. I wonder how many of the members here know that. I learnt that in my law classes.
Whatever may be your intention , even if it's about saving a person's life , picking up a minor , a child from her home with out guardian's consent is a strict NO NO.
No matter what, we can't change or modify the law.
Ishita did wrong. It was her duty to inform the Bhallas , she didn't even make sure who picked up the phone. N she should've informed her own parents too , then all this public fiasco could have been avoided. She could've gone to Bhalla's house instead of going to Shagun's. She could've atleast texted Bala or Mihika informing them about the whole situation. She acted really like an emotional fool. No other words. I'd have behaved exactly the way Raman did in the same situation.
If any one deserves a slap , it's ISHITA HERSELF , from her parents. She's solely responsible for this public humiliation to her entire family.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: napstermonster

I think Ishita shoots herself in the foot when it comes to Ruhi. She is calm and sensible in all other aspects of her life--as you said, she was the most rational person in the whole Mihir-Meehika debacle. She is truthful, reasonable, and straightforward. I am loving this woman.

But when it comes to Ruhi, something happens, and its not exactly a positive trait. I wont comment on whether this is frustrated mother love, because I'm sure there are people who are inappropriate about other people's kids who still have five kids of their own.

I get the premise is that the "life long love" that Ishita feels will be for Ruhi and not Raman (which is a nice twist). But still, there has to be boundaries, and coming into someone's house, and taking their kid out the door is certainly not! Its an emergency--so you couldn't shout out to the five other non drunk family members, about the frothing little girl? Who would have stopped you from rushing to the hospital when they saw that Ruhi was at death's door?

When it comes to Ruhi, Ishita just...stops thinking. And thats not okay. Ruhi is not hers. Even after she marries Raman in the future, just because she loves Ruhi, that wont give her more rights or more say than Raman has. He is an indifferent father..but he is the father.

No matter what her private thoughts about Ruhi are (which are not based on complete information) Ishita cant just say whatever she wants to this kid's parent, and she can't be surprised if she gets rudeness in response. She does not know anything at all about this kid's background. If she gets the whole barren taunt, now, she has kind of brought it onto herself by being very personal about Raman's weak point.

She is the one who harps on and on about Raman's wife, and surely she can see this is not a topic he is going to welcome! No one would! No matter how worried you are about someone else's kid, you do NOT rudely imply things to single parent about the missing parent!

She is the one who rescues Ruhi from the room, but come on--Ruhi's father had left Ruhi with his date, a relative-by-marriage, who his mom assured him was a capable woman. He was at an awards function, having to do media coverage. He didn't want to bring Ruhi, but the family insisted, and he made alternate arrangements by bringing Ms Pea Green Gown along as a glorified baby-sitter.

The fact that Ishita helped Ruhi from tat room was immediately undercut by her saying, to a comparative stranger (which Raman still is) --you don't know how to care for your daughter, since you are yelling at her for wandering off, I'll take her away from you. No one gets to say that! Its HUGELY inappropriate!

The fact that that evening is when Ruhi goes missing? Dammmn...



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Posted: 11 years ago
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I don't know guys, people just react differently in times of crisis... and yes, though I agree with most points, this is the way I see it:

Ishita: Panics, thinks of taking the girl to the hospital first (correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't cough syrup overdose cause death?)

Raman: Panics, finds child missing, suspects Ishita has kidnapped her (she did almost take Ruhi with her at the party earlier, no?)

Ishita's family: Panics, daughter late for engagement, innocent, blamed, punished, shamed...

Raman's family: Panics, finds the little girl missing and in confusion also suspects Ishita.

BUT then my common sense kicks in and I ask myself: if Raman's family do really know Dimple so well, wouldn't Raman's mum know that she's so full of herself and can't be trusted with a child, least of all a sick one? If I were them, I'd question her first because no human could sleep so soundly next to a coughing/sick child, to the extent that she doesn't even realize the child is taken...

Just wanted to add something: Women are generally quick to form bonds with a motherless young child. It's not just Ishita. It's not just barren women. It's not just single women/serial heroines.

To continue, if I was Raman, I'd kick myself real hard for getting so drunk in the first place. Doesn't he listen to his head anymore? His anger and resentment keeps blinding him. He's just as guilty for trusting a nincompoop with his child.

So, ya, Mr Raman, allow me to give you your first slap.


Edited by Chimpsy - 11 years ago

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