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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Samanalyse

Borna, you have no idea how much I missed these very looong posts.

This is what my face looks like right now ==> 😃

*Sigh* It's not that I haven't watched any shows after PV1 ended but nothing has sustained me for more than a week. The real reason is not because shows are bad per se, just very boring.


That said, I am so happy that you are enjoying JLZ! From the glimpses I have seen, it does seem like there are some wonderful actors at work there and that the leads' relationship is being developed beautifully. Actually, after the announcement about TP, I have been wondering how many more shows I would give an honest try if only they had a guaranteed end, and how many I am holding back from because they don't. It's one thing with shows that decline after their story runs out, like Geet in my experience, where you can just pick and ending point and call the rest bonus time with your favourite actors. It is another thing entirely when a show is yanked in the wrong direction long before its core is exhausted, as happened with PV and even AB. That is truly heart breaking and the worst part is that there is never any warning and you try so hard to hold on to the good before finally admitting what has happened to your show.


Aww, Sammy! 🤗

And this is me, even with a splitting headache: 😃
Ditto! At least, I've missed making substantial posts and talking to my friends from the PV-ZMD days about shows...

Your remark about how no shows sustained your interest for more than a week sounds exactly like my condition after LTL was set up by the channel to change focus (aka to take a suicidal nosedive) back in March 2011. I've recounted that story many times before, I believe. So much pain, having that story snatched away when there was so much left to be shown with a superb cast bringing the writing to life. After that, everything seemed to pale in comparison. Even Mohnish Behl couldn't charm and impress me into watching KTLK - and I absolutely loved his work in Sanjivani, so that's saying something...After PV-ZMD pulled me out of my hiatus, there was no looking back for a while, but when it ended the way it did, I detached from it just fine, given my history with similar past experiences, and then I didn't watch anything at all except for a few old episodes of the two shows I mentioned above. I also was happily distracted by British TV for a while, but even those ended up giving me heartache 😆

And so my penchant for falling in love with ill-fated couples who fall into these categories continues: a) they are neglected "side characters" in shows that focus on only one couple's "moments", b) they are a main couple in a show full of terrible twists, c) they are subjected to an actor replacement because the channel is full of itself. I sometimes have random bouts of nostalgia and bitterness comes surging to the surface with regard to a few shows I hold in higher stead than the others...But then I always tell myself to be happy for the good things those shows had - and that usually does the trick.

I had heard about the Khoobsurat fiasco and couldn't believe that they were eliminating Ehsaas from the show! He was the heart of the show, wasn't he? Literally and figuratively, in a manner of speaking? That's just sad!

In recent years, the shows I've ended up actively following and loving the most are the ones I've come across quite by accident. Oddly enough, I had heard of JLZ in passing during my days lurking around another show's forum as that show was breathing its last after endless illogical twists (that's a fiasco with a story for another day!) and people were talking about how "some other show is copying it." I didn't care much for those comments at the time, but now that I've been watching JLZ, I remember those complaints and all I can do is roll my eyes. In terms of essence, characterization, and treatment, zameen-aasmaan ka farak hai, but of course some people aren't willing to step back, look beyond the surface, and let go of the notion of their favorite actors' shows being "flawless" so discussion is pointless. *shakes head wearily*

@bold: Wow! I don't think I'd be able to handle following more than one show that is currently on-air at the moment! At least you seem to have a list of sorts! Maybe you could check back in a few months and see how things are going? 😆 As for me, I get pulled into a fictional universe headfirst (heart-first, really) and then end up being swept along in a sea of emotions, as you probably know! I've never been so strongly attached to a slice-of-life sort of story before. I've always gravitated towards soulful stories that have hints of darkness in them. But JLZ is truly making me very happy...touchwood! Plenty of lovely, subtle progression on the relationship front, characters that are relatable, music that sounds like a film score...and two lead actors I can happily watch all day if they're given episodes where all they have to do is look at each other, smile, and be adorable...😆 They don't even have to SAY anything. That's how expressive their silences are! *happy fangirl sigh* 😆 I told a friend earlier, "Hopeless me...But I'm happily hopeless!" 😆 (Aside: I took my talent for rambling to the JLZ Forum and now IF has even more of my looong posts in its archives 😛 😆)

I actually don't know the details about the issues that SC faced...All I know is that it changed hands before I got the memo! 😆 Loved reading your views about TP, by the way! I have to commend the people in the TV industry who have the courage to try out new genres, new methods of storytelling, and new formats. I may not have a personal interest in the majority of the shows out there right now for various reasons, but it's nice to know that new things are being attempted here and there amid the usual fare...
Edited by MelodiousDreams - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi all...long time since I visited this thread, but after what I am watching on the Kannada remake of PV, I just had to. 😊


They followed the original pretty much with few changes until Aarti's confession and then it is all changed! I don't know what they are actually heading to, but I am so happy to see something different and I am crossing my fingers that the ex-husband's role is not cut short by death. 🤔 He doesn't go on to file a custody case and is slowly and surely worming his way into Aarti's life and creating havoc very subtly and showing an innocent face all the time! 😈 I am enjoying it a lot at the moment and hope it continues to entertain as the story progresses.


@Sam, I am watching TP as well and I love the fairy tale quality about it! I was also glad that they are going to follow the fixed number of episodes format...praying fervently that this is one show which I can remember with a smile when it is over! 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Borna and Shobhs, so sorry for disappearing like that from our conversations and for the late replies but here I am!

@Borna: It's not just that no show is holding my interest, it is also that I am holding myself back from investing in anything too deeply. Partly because of previous experiences and partly because real life just won't permit me to make the same kind of time commitment anymore. I really miss the forum interactions a la DC in the PV1 days, though. Now, I have found a good balance, posting when I feel like it without any loyalty to one show. I have become something of an IF nomad.

I agree with you about being happy about what our favorite shows did give us but like you said, sometimes the bitterness really surges up and you feel terrible for a little while before you can remind yourself of all the good things and move on.

Yes, Ehsaas was the heart of Khoobsurat and it was such a beautiful story in terms of symbolism etc. I think the Mittals had originally planned for a love triangle between the handsome, grown-up Ansh (can't remember the name of actor or character for the life of me right now), Ehsaas and Aradhya but the online audiences demanded less scenes of Aradhya and GU-Ansh and more of the "lead couple." That caused the writers (egged on by Sony, probably) to rush into a groom swap that really killed the essence of the show. Still the budding love between Aradhya and Ehsaas was cute until it took a further nosedive with too much interference from the grandmother. *SIGH*

Wait, what show are you talking about? The one that JLZ was supposed to be copying? You are free to speak here! 😆

I am usually not more than a one-show person, but I like to keep abreast with what is on because I am also fascinated with the way the whole industry functions, the content on TV and the way it interacts or complements what's happening in film. I love stalking forums to see what people are thinking in terms of ideology and content.

@Shobhs: So good to hear that you are watching the Kannada PV! I don't know if you knew, I think I mentioned it in DC, but I spent the summer in Mysore for a language program and stayed with relatives that I barely knew. As fate would most beautifully have it, our only connection was PV! They were watching (and loving) it in Kannada and I would watch it with them. When I was there, they covered the story from Adi's kidnap right up until Sakshi's debate. I don't follow the episodes back in the States but I do watch the trailers on the FB page to see where the story is going. I hope that you are right about them not following PV1 literally but I am not sure I have as much faith as you do. We did have this phase in PV1, when they were living in the upstairs room, one of my favourite parts of the whole show. Still, fingers crossed that you are right.

I am so glad to find a fellow-TP watcher among us! It is good fun and I love how refreshing Anshuman's character is. He is so evil without being conflicted about a dark past. No excuses, just pure evil. 😈 I love it!

So much more lethal than all the silly, violent AYMs in every other "youth-oriented" love story. And Paakhi is the perfect counterpart. It is so good to see a story about a charged relationship in which both the man and the woman are actually on equal footing in terms of intelligence, skill and savvy!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@Sam: It is not that I have a lot of hopes on the Kannada version, but definitely what they are showing is lots better than what we saw in Hindi. 😃


Shashank worms his way into the good books of Aarti's in-laws. He manages to get a job with Rajashekhar's help. He takes Aditya home from school when he is hurt and the boy develops a fever. He refuses to let the boy go with Aarti when she comes to take him. The aunt has not disappeared but is very much there (it is Sattu's sister here, not tayiji).


Finally when Aarti creates a big fuss over Shashank being friendly with Aditya, he files for custody. The custody fight scene was so much more believable. Shashank makes a good case for himself and so does Aarti. The judge finally says that Aditya will spend weekends with Shashank and after a month, they will decide who will have custody. Confusion of Aditya is also shown well. Gayatri still supports Aarti and Surya, even defying her husband who is angry with Aarti and supports Shashank.


On the whole, I like this presentation better. I am really curious to know what will be the outcome of the custody case...I just hope they don't go and mess it up in the end! 😛

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