Episode 451 Discussion: 13th December 2013

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Episode 451 Discussion: 13th December 2013

Welcome to the Episode discussion thread which we call as Viewer's and Reader's Respite. That's very apt, don't you think ? 😉. And that proves our objective.

Objective behind the thread is
  1. It helps in keeping the forum clean without much litter. People just need to fall in a habit.
  2. We can have it like breathers at first followed by analysis.
  3. It also helps like-minded souls and pals bond and gel together to drop in their thoughts for themselves as breathers and for their friends as a peep into the episode and for others to post their reviews.
  4. And those from different time-zones, who do not get to watch the episode at this time of telecast (Indian 8:30 PM), without any worry to trace or keep track of all their buddy's posts, they can come here, read with leisure and later post their analysis after watching it from their Time zones.

Note for Newcomers to this thread.
Extremist thoughts and moralizing thoughts are not welcome over this thread. It is entertainment show we are watching. The channel calls their programs as entertainment and we are watching the show. Discussions are welcome in light hearted and in realistic manner. Moral policing is not appreciated. We do not want to feel stifled into that kind of atmosphere here.

There are several other social welfare sites that are there to discuss the genuine issues. If for some reason, it is felt that social concerns have to be addressed and ethical and moral responsibility needs to be exercised for watching entertainment, then; certainly the forum is an open place to create separate ATs and build up that kind of propaganda.

Please heed to this as direct request and conditional requirement to participate in this thread. Strong words such as psychopaths unless used in show, need not be used to instigate riotous atmosphere or start sermonizing.


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Today's LU from Armu4eva
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3846691/13th-december-short-lu-madhubala

Note:
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  • The link to Previous Episode thread if anyone wants to trace and post thoughts there https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3845387/episode-450-discussion-12th-december-2013.
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https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/72894138

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https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/75172850

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https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/77151154

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TRPs for week 49, December 1 - 7th, 2013

Weekly Analysis

Originally posted by: river123

TRP Charts:

"We know what we are doing." Of course CVs!

Another pathetic week. TRPs went to 1.9 vs. 2.2, down approx. 14% (TVTs were not available this week, so %ages may be off a little.) MB's position shares its #18 position with Punar Vivah (yes.) Majority of the top 18 shows decreased TRPs from the prior week.

The numbers say it all - this track is not working. However, the issue goes deeper than just the track. Its a basic disconnect between what CVs are churning out, versus what the viewers want to see (there are numerous posts that CVs can refer to if they are interested. The ones that come to mind are Leela, Evil Defiance, Soundarya, Subashni, Charu to name just a few.) Next week will be yet another interesting week - what with the introduction of the new girl. Wait and watch...
Weekly TRP historical trends are below (note: data converted from TVTs to TRPs so that we could have consistent comparison points. This is a rough inexact conversion and may not match to the second decimal place with other estimates due to minor differences in conversion methodology)
Note: Data converted from TVTs to TRPs from week 31 onwards. Does not take into consideration impact of adding new markets at various points. Size of these markets, viewing patterns, demographics, level of digitization etc. of those markets would impact TRPs. Also, hard to judge IPL's exact impact.
The two charts below show: 1) Top 18 shows TRPs and 2) TRP increase/drop for those shows, compared to the week prior. The blue bars on the second chart are the ones that did better, the red are the ones that did worse, and the no bars are the ones that were the same. TVTs (which I believe do provide an accurate picture of relative rankings) were used to rank the shows.



Note:
  • TRPs for Taarak will be updated as soon as they become available. As of now, last weeks numbers with an adjustment down for Sab TV's % drop were plugged in as a placeholder.
  • This week no TVT data was received as of now. If TVT data does become availble, the rankings will be adjusted to reflect that.
  • This is a rough analysis. Please feel free to point out any holes.

Data Source


Edited by -MAS- - 11 years ago
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perfect birthday for bechari madhu.
sometimes I think, will she be better off with bhai, may be she wud have got madhu wala pyar frm him..or may be ulta..uska kaam dhandha bandh karake , he'd be either working as a juinor artist stuntsman or may be under construction building.but kam se kam sukhi parivar toh hota.
sorry for the useless rambling I thot kameena rk phir se apna rang dikhaye toh past yaad aa jaata hai.
this had nothing to do with the episode btw which had many scenes rehashed from the past..like
pabo repeating her apshaguni chant
bittuji with her bhabhiji chant
Radha and her flip flop
Ria reminding us of bhai in bhai era
rk reminding us of madhu frm bhau era..woh ladki jisse tum pyar karte ho and smile karke phone cut.
madhu fumbling when asked abt her next film..its so so difficult to say no right?
rk fuming on hearing praises of biwi
biwi asking tum theek ho na rk, and smiling seeing him putting up a facade again..may be madhu is waiting for the time when he will stop reacting to "her" fans requests so tht she cud sign her next film..btw she is comfortable with everyone calling her madhubala right? And not madhubala kundra..bec in the fim titles also she features as madhubala alone
rk forgetting her bday was typical..dunno how junooni ones behave..
and the climax, rk ki pol kholo thanks to Ria..good job..madhu ka sukhi sansar khatre mein and i'm sure, ab woh sab theek kar degi..
the only one scene which I liked was Rm's pic in the guest house..beautiful pic reminding me of those golden days...
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sorry, i'm typing frm the cell..so its difficult to edit msgs but I just realized its Friday today..so no MB for the next two days :((
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thx charu
I was waiting for a review so that I could put my point
And I did not want to start with negativity

But what is rk
I can digest madhubala Ji is a superstar which India has not seen in last 6 years
But what is rk -- non existent

Ok he was not so prominent in his last movie but what about last 6 Years
Come in yaar people don't treat past superstars like this -- ok he is past -- we agree -- and accept - do we have a choice

Even govinda is treated better

Even a past superstar like Rakesh khanna was treated Better even when his wife dimple was a bigger star

Really this show deserves the trp it is getting

And as I said before this track is for rk haters -- really it's a pain for people who have even loved rk for a day
Edited by LSPD - 11 years ago
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In the farm house pic Ria's shadow fell in place of madhu's pic.
Cvs want to give us Signal for upcoming Epis through this i Suppose🤢
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Originally posted by: Rk-the-baazigar

In the farm house pic Ria's shadow fell in place of madhu's pic.

Cvs want to give us Signal for upcoming Epis through this i Suppose🤢



No Rajji
Her shadow falls on both
So she will shadow both somehow
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Only bittuji remembered madhus bday and Madhu bday wish list is too long is janam mein to poora nahi hoga.

Bday lunch gone wrong ...Waise ek achchi Baat hai , rk is talking to biwi in his guilt otherwise he was totally ignoring her,
What contrasting personalities at lunch, one get upset at small things, other ignores the same thing which husband is upset and become extra chirpy as if nothing happened.
Why could she not say no outright to fans questions again ambiguity ? May be she did not have time before the other fan but in and spoke .

Ok can some one please stop 'Tim theek oh na RK ' dialogue , it is really irritating .

Ok now Ria is mouthing pyar wale dialogues and RK tries to ignore or Rk tongue tied . Whatever but peecha choota nahi . Liked RKs pol khol in front of biwi.

Biwi angry asks what is the relation ..oh how I wish he says same as yours with sultan 😆 A friend .

But I know Cvs will never bring up sultan.

Waise RK should follow madhus philosophy, should not disclose anything to Madhu like Madhu never used to tell about her visits to sultan even after marriage or her nivaran plans , if caught he should say the truth and ask her not to worry

ETA: did any one notice kaka at farmhouse calls RK as producer w😆
Edited by armummy - 11 years ago
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It was good to see Madhu getting a taste of her own medicine 😛 Does she understand now how RK used to feel about her friendship with Sultan? Does she understand now how much it hurts when your spouse fails to read your feelings?

RK is slowly and steadily falling out of of love with Madhu. He invited her out for lunch out of guilt - remembering Ria words about lying to her. He was surprised to realise that he had forgotten her birthday. Madhu isn't his junoon anymore. He wasn't even that much affected today by the fans giving her more importance nor was he much disappointed with Madhu for again failing to understand his feelings.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Did madhu's wish list had rk by any chance? Parivar mein sukh shanti, vishwas, izzat, pyar, bittuji ko bday ka return gift mil gaya..wonder madhu had no lecture for scolding chief n daru peena which bittuji was planning to do
..
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sometimes madhu reminds me of asaram Bapu, no offense to the great man!
Edited by _charu_ - 11 years ago

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