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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: 5cents

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ouchy itna gussa 😛

I completely agree with Lakshya here... ...exactly my thoughts. Ethical issues and is it morally permissible to hide a child's biological details from the kid? 😕 .

From the inception of this track I have said that ...it is not him being a adoptee that is the problem ...The problem is just secrecy!! That is why we had that sc from the adoption center where the lady told Ansh to disclose to the adopted child that kid is a adoptee not a biological child of the couple.

The way Shiv has been shown from teh beginning truthful & honest so for a rightious person like him such a big lie or undisclosed truth is bound to create a havoc in his dil & dimag.

Some may find it illogical but for me it is a highly dillogical track ❤️
Being a big phan girl of Sigmund Freud I want to get into Shiv's mind & read what is going on in his nervous system 😛

Now to address the second qs abt adoption...
I agree completely with Supriya that ADOPTION sure is one of many ways to make a family.👍🏼
The child that is adopted has nothing to do with the decision and more importantly, did nothing to create the situation. It is just destiny of the kid whom we got by choice & not by chance.
But a certain fact which I know first hand as my MIL is a social worker and she yells from roof top that...Adoption is not a substitute for having a biological child nor is it a way of REPLACING a child who dies. But it is open secret and a fact many many people even today adopt for selfish reasons like inability to conceive. When family sees a couple grieving a miscarriage & doc declaring that she'll never be able to conceive ...selfish family of the couple do not let them grieve but instead force them to go for adoption.

Here Alok immediately substituted & replaced a baby...believe me it happens! If Alok would have let Ira grieve the loss of the biological child things would have been different. But there is no denying that when we love someone we are very scared to hurt them thinking we might loose them...end of the day we are very emotional selfish being😭 Alok thought only abt Ira's well being, her loss her pain as probably weak Ira his ek lauti patni was oscillating btw life & death.

Tina di😊 not gussa wussa😉 just my love and affection for CVs😆
S parentage drama - I am absolutely cool about it now...they wanted to prove it to us that indeed Sjee is CM's son, they gave us solid proof for what we've been discusssing for ages on the forum😉
My grouse is the interlinking with adoption...they should have kept it out of the S's parentage drama...the way the promotion of Ansh adopting was going on...it seemed like the next big thing on the card...but that was completely sidelined for drama
I just hope that if at all they want to show Ansh adopting, they involve social issues element too in it😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: 5cents

AWWW Hiral 🤗

ouchy itna gussa 😛

I completely agree with Lakshya here... ...exactly my thoughts. Ethical issues and is it morally permissible to hide a child's biological details from the kid? 😕 .

From the inception of this track I have said that ...it is not him being a adoptee that is the problem ...The problem is just secrecy!! That is why we had that sc from the adoption center where the lady told Ansh to disclose to the adopted child that kid is a adoptee not a biological child of the couple.

The way Shiv has been shown from teh beginning truthful & honest so for a rightious person like him such a big lie or undisclosed truth is bound to create a havoc in his dil & dimag.

Some may find it illogical but for me it is a highly dillogical track ❤️
Being a big phan girl of Sigmund Freud I want to get into Shiv's mind & read what is going on in his nervous system 😛

Now to address the second qs abt adoption...
I agree completely with Supriya that ADOPTION sure is one of many ways to make a family.👍🏼
The child that is adopted has nothing to do with the decision and more importantly, did nothing to create the situation. It is just destiny of the kid whom we got by choice & not by chance.
But a certain fact which I know first hand as my MIL is a social worker and she yells from roof top that...Adoption is not a substitute for having a biological child nor is it a way of REPLACING a child who dies. But it is open secret and a fact many many people even today adopt for selfish reasons like inability to conceive. When family sees a couple grieving a miscarriage & doc declaring that she'll never be able to conceive ...selfish family of the couple do not let them grieve but instead force them to go for adoption.

Here Alok immediately substituted & replaced a baby...believe me it happens! If Alok would have let Ira grieve the loss of the biological child things would have been different. But there is no denying that when we love someone we are very scared to hurt them thinking we might loose them...end of the day we are very emotional selfish being😭 Alok thought only abt Ira's well being, her loss her pain as probably weak Ira his ek lauti patni was oscillating btw life & death.

Tina, agreed that adoption is not a substitute for having a biological child. But what is the harm if the couple who loves kids wants to adopt a kid. What is wrong if a woman like me who loves kids but is in no mood to get married adopts a kid.
But what I am really objecting to is the way they are showing adoption. Anandi seeing the plight of the kid saying let us adopt and arguments given in favor of it is it is after all a social service or noble deed.

What I would have been happier if CVs had shown that how by bringing the innocent child home transforms your life, bringing in joy that you think, live only for her/him. In adoption child is the one who is the most precious gift of all and by giving her a decent family is a pittance in front of what the child gives us. Adoption is a relationship born of heart the bonding/connection which you sense and here it comes from your heart. Who better than me who is experiencing it day in day out. I did not bear my daughter for 9 months but my daughter is extremely precious for me and that one smile of hers is enough to wipe away all the tensions.

Adoption is not charity but the most beautiful relationship you can ever form.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: dsupriya


Tina, agreed that adoption is not a substitute for having a biological child. But what is the harm if the couple who loves kids wants to adopt a kid. What is wrong if a woman like me who loves kids but is in no mood to get married adopts a kid.

But what I am really objecting to is the way they are showing adoption. Anandi seeing the plight of the kid saying let us adopt and arguments given in favor of it is it is after all a social service or noble deed.

What I would have been happier if CVs had shown that how by bringing the innocent child home transforms your life, bringing in joy that you think, live only for her/him. In adoption child is the one who is the most precious gift of all and by giving her a decent family is a pittance in front of what the child gives us. Adoption is a relationship born of heart the bonding/connection which you sense and here it comes from your heart. Who better than me who is experiencing it day in day out. I did not bear my daughter for 9 months but my daughter is extremely precious for me and that one smile of hers is enough to wipe away all the tensions.

Adoption is not charity but the most beautiful relationship you can ever form.


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There is no harm if one wants to adopt ...to make a family...I guess you missed my first point This is exactly what I said there. ADOPTION sure is one of many ways to make a family & have a kid to relive our childhood through him or her. Sushmita Sen best example apart from you😃. I think you are getting bit emotion and reacting to it not responding. It sure is not charity but people do get moved and adopt like Aji & I know many who have done that here in the Valley where I live. There are zillions of reasons why people want to adopt. Without paging Sigmund Freud I can say that safely that we all have biases and thinking is different from one another. So you simple cannot generalize that one only adopts to enjoy a baby to have a fulfilling life.

Friend of mine was visiting a orphanage as her kids school project & a small girl came & held her hand my friend was so moved that she moved mountains to adopt the same baby girl but she found out she had a twin brother... so she decided to adopt him also. Here there was no intent of having a family as she already had a son but today she is happy with her 3 kids. Such is life so there is nothing right & wrong & we all do things according to out sense & sensibility. At the end of the day we humans are emotion beings that's why Shiv reacted so strongly to the secrecy surrounding his birth and adoption.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: 5cents


AWWW Sups 🤗

There is no harm if one wants to adopt ...to make a family...I guess you missed my first point This is exactly what I said there. ADOPTION sure is one of many ways to make a family & have a kid to relive our childhood through him or her. Sushmita Sen best example apart from you😃. I think you are getting bit emotion and reacting to it not responding. It sure is not charity but people do get moved and adopt like Aji & I know many who have done that here in the Valley where I live. There are zillions of reasons why people want to adopt. Without paging Sigmund Freud I can say that safely that we all have biases and thinking is different from one another. So you simple cannot generalize that one only adopts to enjoy a baby to have a fulfilling life.

Friend of mine was visiting a orphanage as her kids school project & a small girl came & held her hand my friend was so moved that she moved mountains to adopt the same baby girl but she found out she had a twin brother... so she decided to adopt him also. Here there was no intent of having a family as she already had a son but today she is happy with her 3 kids. Such is life so there is nothing right & wrong & we all do things according to out sense & sensibility. At the end of the day we humans are emotion beings that's why Shiv reacted so strongly to the secrecy surrounding his birth and adoption.

Tina even in the case of your friend, she moved mountains to adopt the same baby girl and brother because she felt bonded with her. You are also missing my point here, bonding is equally important. The way colors site showed the message, the way Anandi thought about it. That is what I am objecting to. Adoption changes your whole life. in your friends case she did it out of some connection with the child. That is what I am emphasising on. You may do it for all reasons, ultimately should not miss out on the connection bonding the child requires from you. It is much more involved than social service

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