The tale of Eklavya..

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Eklavya, a self made man, a self learned student. Eklavya could learn archery better without Drona's blessings, knowledge and endorse. Better than even Drona's favorite student. He taught himself without submitting himself to a teacher and this is a reason he's treated as a hero.

Eklavya was born in a tribe, nishada tribe and that was engaged in anti-social acts. They were used to create trouble for the citizens as well as the Kuru dynasty. This is the reason they were allotted to live in the forest. And from there too they were creating problems for the people. When Eklavya approached Drona, he refused to accept him as his student. Most of the people claim this was due to his cast. But let's keep in mind that Drona had been sheltered and appointed by the Kurus. So how could he teach someone who belonged to a cast harming them? I don't think Drona was so narrowed minded.

Because Drona accepted Dhristadyumna as his student despite of knowing he would slay him in the future. So he wouldn't have accepted him in case his mind was so narrow.

So perhaps Drona observed that Eklavya didn't had the character of a protector. A person gains knowledge by not just being expert in the art but after understanding how to use the art he learned. Eklavya had the potential to become the best archer but the character to protect was missing.

Still, Eklavya's determination to learn was unparalleled. He made a clay form of Drona and practiced in front. He practiced; he learnt and became an expert. One day when Drona was travelling in the forest with his students, they spotted a dog which had his mouth sewn up with arrows. Eklavya had been practicing and the dog had been barking. An irritated Eklavya shot arrows to silence the dog. Arjuna was amazed and stunned to see this extraordinary competence in archery used against a harmless creature. All dogs bark, but do this mean we all need to shoot arrows to quiet them? Never! There are several ways to get rid of them without harming. This was such a cruel act against an innocent creature. Arjuna wanted to know who did this and went to inform Drona. Drona came forward and Eklavya bent to him. He addressed Drona as his teacher.

Drona then demanded his "Guru dakshina" and the self-made archer had to sacrifice his thumb. Many argue he demanded his thumb as he never wanted anyone to be better than his favorite student. Yes this is a main reason for sure, not the sole reason. He may have thought that Eklavya may become an anti-social element in the future, looking at how he treated a harmless dog. So in the future he may create troubles for innocent people. To end all the possibilities, he demanded his thumb. Eklavya without a hesitation agreed and sacrificed his thumb. He will always be remembered for his selfless adoration and respect for his Guru, a Guru who never considered him his student, who never taught him. I've always been against this act of Drona. Eklavya cut his thumb without a bit of hesitation, so wouldn't he have developed a character he lacked, if Drona wanted him to do so? Indra felt ashamed after Karna handed over his Kavach and Kundal to him. This is the reason he gave him a powerful weapon, Bramhastra. Drona would have given something to Eklavya.

But Eklavya still practiced the art and decided to battle for the Kauravas in the war. So before the war, Krishna challenged him and killed him in the battle between them. He was purified and released by Krishna.

So Eklavya had the ability to become the greatest archer, but he lacked the character. This is the reason he used his skills against a harmless creature. His character would have caused troubles for him and others too. Drona's act can't be considered fair, and so he received a curse.

Both sides were guilty!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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nice post...👏
i was not knowing y he cut his thumb n y drona demanded...!
u cleared my doubts...😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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That is not all Drona demanded his thumb for 1 more reason he thought being a tribal nishada he has no right to learn Dhanurvidya as in Hastinapur only Kshatriyas had right to learn this as well as the point which u all mentioned too was correct as well . Drona thought Eklavya cheated him so he demanded thumb of his right hand 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: GOLD.A

That is not all Drona demanded his thumb for 1 more reason he thought being a tribal nishada he has no right to learn Dhanurvidya as in Hastinapur only Kshatriyas had right to learn this as well as the point which u all mentioned too was correct as well . Drona thought Eklavya cheated him so he demanded thumb of his right hand😊

Right...this is the reason he rejected Karna too.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I've always disliked this act of Drona.

Your example of Indra and Karna was apt here.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thanks for sharing. Very interesting
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Very nice post👏

There is one thing that I always wonder.. Are there authentic instances/Slokas in MB that prove the fact that Arjun was indeed jealous of Eklavya.

I know that it is the accepted perception but I do not think that it is completely true. I have tried looking for actual verses that support the theory of Arjun's jealousy and can find none. 😊

So that means that the only reason why Arjun's 'jealousy' is brought into the picture is because he is the one who informs Drona of Eklavya. But then, there is no doubt that Arjun would have done so. Arjun wanted to become the greatest Archer in the world. He saw someone with an extraordinary skill with the bows and hence informed his Guru about the same..

It is mere coincidence that Eklavya wanted Drona to be his Guru too.. And had gone ahead and practiced Archery even after he had been rejected as a disciple.

The facts to be considered are these.

1. If Eklavya was that wonderful of a student who would so selflessly give away his thumb, why did he not show the same behavior of accepting his Guru's words when Drona told him that he would not be able to teach him or be his Guru?

2. Why go against your Guru's wishes and words at first to gain something that is forbidden and then do an act that would showcase to the world that the sacrifice was of the greatest order?🤔

One has to remember that in those times, the lines of who can learn what was drawn pretty taut.. If Drona said No to Eklavya, there were certain reasons and compulsions behind it. Eklavya, if he was a true student and an honest one would have accepted this and moved on.
But like Karna who lied to Parashuram, Eklavya chose a path wherein he was stubborn to have Drona as his Guru, whatever the consequences. And for this, he did pay, pay with his thumb.

Now does this make Arjun any less of an Archer? I do not think so. Arjun was a great archer in his own rights. He was not the lesser skilled person just because he was privileged enough to get his shiksha from Drona.. Something that Eklavya was not destined to have.

So no.. I do not think that Eklavya was better than Arjun. I have doubts about Arjun actually being jealous of Eklavya and as much as I find it shocking that Drona would go to the extent of asking for Eklavya's thumb (I would have preferred if he had asked Eklavya never to use his skills again if at all he wanted Eklavya not to use his skills wrongly instead of asking for the thumb), I think Eklavya was also at fault for flaunting his imagined and self proclaimed Guru and letting him down.

The relationship between a student and a Guru is that of great trust. Lies and disobeying orders form no part of it. It required that the student submit himself totally to his Guru to gain knowledge. I do not think Eklavya did that.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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This is what i know . I am not saying it is THE correct version but i always read this only .

Eklavya travelled to Hastinapur , sought an audience with Drona and requested official training .

Drona , though impressed , refused . 2 reasons for the refusal .

Caste WAS definetely one . Clearly the Mahabharat says that Drona enquired about his caste and creed . In those days only the Kshatriyas and Brahmins had a permission to obtain the knowledge of warfare as the society was based on Varna ashrama . Drona refused Eklavya as he was a Nishada , a tribal , of a much lower caste than Kshatriyas . He refused Karna as he was a suta putra , again a lower caste . Drona followed the varna ashrama dharma implicitly . He did not refuse these 2 out of personal disdain but bcoz it was the social norm . Parshuram trained only brahmins . Others like Drona trained only brahmins or kshatriyas .

Drona accepted Drishtadyumna as he was a kshatriya . The fact that he accepted him inspite of knowing his purpose shows his large heart but the social norm of caste was followed .

Second is that the Nishadas were not exactly friends of the kingdom in which Drona was employed . Drona was the Rajguru and it was his duty to look after the benefit of the kingdom. The Nishadas were a source of constant trouble to Hastinapur . So accepting Eklavya was an absolute no no .

Undeterred , Eklavya practised archery on his own , without Drona or any training , and excelled . He practised it before a statue of Drona .

Once Drona took the princes to the forest for training . When they were sleeping at night a wild dog started barking . He barked non stop . It was the no moon night . Amavasya . Before they could do anything of it , seven arrows sewed the dog's mouth in such a way , that the barking stopped AND the dog was uninjured . Specifically mentioned . Astonished and impressed the princes and Drona went to find further and found Eklavya practsing shabd bhedi shooting at night . This type of shooting was practised in the dark by hearing sounds and hence the accuracy towards the dog .

Drona was impressed and pleased and Eklavya prostrated before him and showed the statue .

Drona had promised Arjun that he would make him the world's best archer . A visibly insecure Arjun reminded him of his promise . He felt jealous of Eklavya all right .

To keep up his promise to his best student Drona asked for Eklavya's thumb as guru dakshina as the thumb was an integral part in archery .

Eklavya gave it .

The fact that Arjun had an ego of his archery skills is true coz in the Maha Prasthanika Parva it is clearly mentioned that when Arjun fell dying , Bheema asked Yudhishtir the reason and Yushishtir answered that he could not enter heaven bcoz of his ego about his archery skills ...he had said that he would win the war in 1 day while it took 18 days to be precise .

I differ about the cruelty to an innocent animal argument . Firstly it was a wild dog and wild dogs can shred u to pieces . Secondly they were Kshatriyas who hunted as a game , that era was different . Dasharatha and Pandu made mistakes while hunting deer . The Pandavas sanctioned a lot of burning of wild life when they ordered the burning down of Khandav van . So no , i differ there .

This is what i heard of Eklavya . Other versions may be there but i read this only .






Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I read a different story about Eklavya and the dog, he filled the dog's mouth with the arrows to make him stop barking without injurying him. He was such a great archer.

Dronacharya was selfish and ambitious because he wanted to use both Kauravs and Pandawas against Drupad to snatch away his kingdom to take revenge against him and to make his son king of Panchal.

He had already given his vachan to Arjun to make him the world's greatest archer.
He asked for Eklavya's thumb because he knew that if this child has learnt dhanurvidya without actually his teaching him just by watching he also has the potencial to become world's greatest archer and Arjun was just learning at that time.

Dronacharya was insecure and when he saw danger and obstruction in front of his ambitions he removed that competition.

He did it for the second time when he refused to accept Karn as his student.

Both Eklavya and Karn were far better archer then Arjun simple reason being that they both had huge talent and they learnt archery themselves and Dron knew it very well hense his insecurity.

Just because it is being considered for thousands of years that Arjun was the greatest archer but the doubt also has been there always that Karn and Eklavya might be far better archers then Arjun.

The fact that Eklavya was not cruel to the dog his character can be judged from the fact that he at once cut his thumb and gave it to Dronacharya in guru dakshina without uttering a single word.

Personally I think that Eklavya and Karn were far better archer then Arjun.


One day while Ekalavya is practicing,he hears a dog barking. Before the dog can shut up or get out of the way, Ekalavya fires seven arrows in rapid succession to fill the dog's mouth without injuring it. The Pandavas come upon the dog, and wonder who could have accomplished such a feat. Searching the forest, they find a dark skinned young man, dressed in all black with long hair and strong muscles. He introduces himself as Ekalavya, a pupil of Drona.

I read this story in school when I was in first class 😆 😆


Edited by rasyafan - 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Justlikethat1



Now does this make Arjun any less of an Archer? I do not think so. Arjun was a great archer in his own rights. He was not the lesser skilled person just because he was privileged enough to get his shiksha from Drona.. Something that Eklavya was not destined to have.

So no.. I do not think that Eklavya was better than Arjun. I have doubts about Arjun actually being jealous of Eklavya and as much as I find it shocking that Drona would go to the extent of asking for Eklavya's thumb (I would have preferred if he had asked Eklavya never to use his skills again if at all he wanted Eklavya not to use his skills wrongly instead of asking for the thumb), I think Eklavya was also at fault for flaunting his imagined and self proclaimed Guru and letting him down.

The relationship between a student and a Guru is that of great trust. Lies and disobeying orders form no part of it. It required that the student submit himself totally to his Guru to gain knowledge. I do not think Eklavya did that.


I agree, I think the general audience likes to put down Arjuna because he's hailed as one of the heros of Mahabharat, and no one worships heros nowadays. No, today only gray shaded characters are interesting. People only relate to gray shaded characters, so they like to create arguments to prove that the heros were not heros, and that they don't deserve to be worshipped or hailed. But we have to remember that in prehistoric epics, the heros became heros for a reason. There were certain ethics and moral codes which they followed back then, and are no longer followed now, but that doesn't make them "anti-heros" just because they're not acceptable in today's times.

Arjuna is not at all blameworthy in the whole Ekalavya case, so to put him down in order to hail Ekalavya is meaningless. No where in MB does it say that Ekalavya was better than Arjuna and that Arjuna was jealous. Ekalavya is simply described as being a good archer, that's all. We don't know whether he was a better archer than Arjuna or not, because his story ends after giving his thumb to Drona, but to make interpretations that do not exist is impractical.

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