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Originally posted by: -Shruti
Maybe I needed to do some research on the dog part 😛

Above all, the truth is that Eklavya is best remembered for his selfless adoration and respect for his spiritual guru. Whenever people will talk about an ideal student, Eklavya's name will be taken with pride and respect.

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Drona was cursed by the goddess of knowledge. I'm aware of two curses he received for his cruelty in the Eklavya incident.

He was cursed to cry as a human being and not a warrior in front of his enemies in the battle field.
And he was also cursed to die without his weapons.

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people think ,everyone who is challenged by krishna is bad.But that's not true,it is considered an honour to be challenged by him.purification is the reason eklavya,karna even arjuna had to leave their bodies to attain heaven,unlike yudhistira who was granted his body to heaven.everyone in the above had their faults.karna had his ''durabhiman'' which made restricted him from doing the right thing and ultimately finally made him fight in the wrong side.arjuna had his "ahamkara" of being the greatest archer in the world.krishna gave them chances but they failed.karna was given a chance before the war during meeting to let go of the past.But karna couldn't let go.arjun was given chances during the war.Infact krishna used karna for this purpose.the reason why his helmet fell during the last fight with karna and ofcourse krishna himself praising karna various times for his archery skill.but arjun did not let go of his aham so had to die to attain heaven.

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: -Shruti
One day when Drona was travelling in the forest with his students, they spotted a dog which had his mouth sewn up with arrows. Eklavya had been practicing and the dog had been barking. An irritated Eklavya shot arrows to silence the dog. Arjuna was amazed and stunned to see this extraordinary competence in archery used against a harmless creature. All dogs bark, but do this mean we all need to shoot arrows to quiet them? Never!

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My reading of Ekalavya, & why he was admired by Arjun, was not that he injured the dog, but he shut it up without injuring it. After all, anybody could have shot an arrow and cut off that dog's tongue, or worse, its head, but that's not what Ekalavya did. He sent a series of (presumably blunt) arrows that jammed that dog's mouth open, w/o injuring it. That was what probably impressed both Drona & Arjun.

Also, as Varaali once pointed out, people didn't think much of animals then. Dogs were considered unclean, hence Yamaraj's test of Yudisthir while accompanying him to heaven. Except cows & to a lesser extent horses, I doubt that any animal was really adored the way people today adore animals. What Ekalavya did was not considered unethical by the texts in those times.

There is nothing wrong w/ what Ekalavya did, except to continue to observe Drona from afar, after he had been turned down. However, the punishment he received was disproportionate, but Drona was a pretty vile character in his own right - even w/o factoring in Ekalavya.

One thing I wondered, and I asked this question elsewhere - is there any documented evidence that Ekalavya belonged to Magadha? Reason I ask is that in the war, Magadha fought on the Pandava side, so if Ekalavya was a Magadha citizen, his duty too would have been the same - he couldn't have then picked which side he wanted to fight for. I read somewhere that one of his sons fought in the war on the Kaurava side & was slain by Arjun.

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Various sites state that he belonged to Magadha. So I guess he changed the side on his will.

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: -Shruti
Drona was cursed by the goddess of knowledge. I'm aware of two curses he received for his cruelty in the Eklavya incident.

He was cursed to cry as a human being and not a warrior in front of his enemies in the battle field.
And he was also cursed to die without his weapons.

He deserved those 2 curses...

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: .Reshama.
He deserved those 2 curses...

Indeed!
He was slain by his own student Dhrishtadyumna, son of Drupad. Drona's two actions led his downfall whereas Eklavya was purified and released by the lord.

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: -Shruti
Indeed!
He was slain by his own student Dhrishtadyumna, son of Drupad. Drona's two actions led his downfall whereas Eklavya was purified and released by the lord.

Eklavya died in the battlefield..but i really wonder what happend to his soul..did he attain nirvana??

Am gonna be very honest Arjun had a very big ego with insecurities and it was because he had Dron and Krishna under his wing..When both died ..Arjun wasnt superior anymore... So in my pov Karan and Eklavya very the greatest and superiour they didnt had help like Arjun did..

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Originally posted by: .Reshama.
Eklavya died in the battlefield..but i really wonder what happend to his soul..did he attain nirvana??
Am gonna be very honest Arjunhada verybig ego with insecuritiesand it was becausehe had Dron and Krishna under his wing..When both died ..Arjun wasnt superior anymore... So in my pov Karan and Eklavya very the greatest and superiourthey didnt had help like Arjun did..

I think his soul attained nirvana.
Eklavya would have been parallel to Karna in case he had fought further. Greatest archers ever!
And the Kaurav side would have been even more powerful then.

For me Bheeshma, Karna are the greatest warriors. And Drona was a great warrior too, after the two men. All three were the students of Lord Parashurama.

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.Reshama.

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: -Shruti
Indeed!
He was slain by his own student Dhrishtadyumna, son of Drupad. Drona's two actions led his downfall whereas Eklavya was purified and released by the lord.

Dron was a brahmin but in my eyes he acted also like a kshyatriya and he wasnt a full rightfull brahmin to me..a bonifide brahmin wouldnt act like Dron...He wanted revenge his friend and wanted half of his kingdom. Astwathamma became a the King..He was very wrong..

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