Successful yet lesser than their husbands

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I sometimes feel why do Balika Vadhu shows their women successful yet inferior to men in profession and education
In JaAn's marriage, Anandi was said to be better in education and intelligence and if given chance she can easily outrun Jagya in profession and their marriage failed
In JaGa's, marriage both Jagya and Gauri were equally qualified and after sometime Gauri surpassed Jagya in qualification and even their marriage failed
Now they have finally shown two successful marriage and both Jagya and Anandi have found their true love but even here
In Jagya's case he has got his wife who may be working but is still lesser than him in profession and calls him sir
In Anandi's case...she was shown to be topper in studies and even became a Sarpanch of Jaitsar but when she got married her husband turned out to be even more better than her an London MBA and IAS officer...why not someone equal...someone who studied in Jaipur?
Does it mean Shiv and Jagya are good husbands only because their wives are not equal to them or surpassing them in education and qualification?
i mean will they ever show either both of these wives surpassing their husbands in their profession (I don't see how Ganga can surpass because in the end she will be a nurse and somewhere i feel the way they have shown Anandi's education, she still is not so well qualified and deserving to surpass Shiv)

P.S i am not bothered with anything but i have seen most of time successful marriages in T.V serials are shown in such way only and even in women empowerment shows in the end they make sure she becomes a better bahu and biwi than working women...Sorry if you find it silly and offensive

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Post not at all silly or offensive. Quite thought provoking. I have a few views on this but am too tired to type it out right now. Will get back to you tomorrow.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Yes, Because our society also is like this only. When Jagya-Anandi's marriage broke, didn't everyone want next guy for anandi to be more educated, more powerful and more paisewala? I even read some comments hoping that kesarbagh house should be bigger than BH. Same way ppl want a more powerful person only. Noone wants a less successful person for a qualified girl. Only if the heroine gets more qualified guy as hubby, ppl will feel that she is successful😆.

I have seen some families in villages not sending the girls for master studies after graduation because they feel it will be difficult to get equally or more qualified guy as dowry attached to that also will be higher.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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I don't know you are girl or not so don't take it as offense if you are a boy
BV cvs are men so i think they are not giving much importance in woman education😡
Ganga studied only diploma in nursing and Anandi did some online degree (don't know her qualification) but Shiv and Jagya compleated their master course...
So what i think is this CVS don't want women to study more they want women to have lesser education and Sugna was left uneducated...
In Sasural simar ka Roli got married when she was studying and she continued her studied without going to college but sitting in home without the coaching of teachers
This is the stupi d attitude of colors tv🤢 they give importance to men when it comes to education and i think they copied it from tamil movies bcoz in some tamil movies they do like this only🤢
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Posted: 12 years ago
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It's coming from the most basic thinking of our indian society,
Men are taught to be looked as superiors and husbands as gods,
When you look at a wedding there's this compulsory that men has to be elder than the girl,
And the qualifications, even height has to be a grade lesser than the guys,
These thoughts are deeply rooted coz of the male dominated society we live,
Only women change their surnames, but husbands never do,

These kind of notions can change only with time.

As far as BV it was one of those very rare serials which show some good messages to the society,
Painfully it has shown some worse ordeals which a woman face too like marital rape, adultery etc.
This can be changed only if the mindset and the thought process of the people in both the gender change.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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But I still feel that even biologically, every woman no matter how qualified or educated she is, we are still wired to have a man we can look up to.
And it is not just Indian society -- even in the U.S. one does not find a female surgeon marrying a truck driver as a common occurrence.

I still feel women are biologically primed to still want a man to provide them with security no matter how financially independent they are and how educated they are.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: tinoo

But I still feel that even biologically, every woman no matter how qualified or educated she is, we are still wired to have a man we can look up to.

And it is not just Indian society -- even in the U.S. one does not find a female surgeon marrying a truck driver as a common occurrence.

I still feel women are biologically primed to still want a man to provide them with security no matter how financially independent they are and how educated they are.



I think its not biological but social conditioning. For so long we have been taught to think that way. Whole world has been male-dominated.

I study spanish. There one little text that reads about a spoilt child - Father scolds the kid and mother cries😆. Nothing different from our society.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Sunna Dewani, since you said "male dominated" I wanted to post an old post of mine which I made two years ago on this same balika vadhu forum when we were talking about women's rights. Dug it up from the archives.
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I just remembered something -- I studied in Boston and in 2000-- and attended a seminar once of an Indian lady student at Harvard who was working on her Ph.D. in anthropology. Her name was Seeta Pai.
Anyway, her presentation was absolutely fascinating.
Her Ph.D. was on the Nair community of Kerala, women's rights and the role that education played in DIMINISHING women's rights. (!)
I dont remember everything clearly --
but she took seven families with seven generations of women in each set. [49 women in total]
What this means is that in each family there was a great-great-great grandma, a great great grandma, a great grandma, a grandma, a mother, a daughter and a grand-daughter.
(Since nair women marry early and have a really long life span this was possible, where the grand-daughter might be 10 and the eldest woman in the lineage might be 110 years )
She also took 1950 (or somewhere thereabouts) as the dividing line between the generations of women (meaning it would be that three of these women would be educated before 1950, and four of them had received education after 1950).
1950 is when the Indian government started compulsory schooling for girls etc. in Kerala.
Now what she found was something fabulous --
the three 'uneducated' generations in each of the families before 1950 were in a completely matriarchal society. The men took the women's names; after marriage the men moved into women's homes, the women had all the decision making power in the homes; the sons-in-laws had to give their money to their mother in law and the mother-in-law would decide how money was spent.
However, the four younger generations of the family who considered themselves 'educated' and had been to some format of school and college -- the education system overturned the power system in the households. Because the British western way was to put father's name, husband's name in the forms for school admissions, for other things etc!! So the grandmother, mother, daughter, grand-daughter somehow all turned into a patriarchal society!! The remaining four generations all were takign their husband's names, moving into their husband's homes after marriage, they were giving their income to their husbands and father in law -- and the male Nair men would decide how money was spent!!
Her thesis was focused on the paradox of 'girls education' as defined by the west -- which says that education empowers women.
Here instead of empowering women, in many cases worked as detrimental to an already existing power structure where women were at the top!! Instead of empowering girls, it was actually stripping them of their power.
The funny thing/irony was that the 4 younger generations because of their 'modern' education as determined by a degree certificate/formal school all considered themselves highly progressive than the older three three generations. They considered their three generations of women 'illiterate' and 'backward' -- so the matrilineal society had swung to a patriarchal system by virtue of the system of education implemented in Kerala.
Food for thought!! [Apologies for not remembering all the details -- but this was just so fantastic) -- she completely blew the lid off the myth of education and feminism through her case study so I remember it vividly -- and the whole audience gave her a standing ovation!!

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Posted: 12 years ago
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@tinoo - Yes, I have also heard that kerala had matriarchal system earlier. But now its nowhere like that. I think with education they aped what happens is other cultures and moved to patriarchal system. Really ironical story indeed.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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In today's society ...modern woman is a wondrous and amazing phenomena...but it seems a huge upheaval to him !!
In this serial the male character... who has seen a traditional grandmother, and a mother largely cocooned within their home domain .
The women in this BV ...Anandi... Gowri... and Ganga...all are emerged from the clearly defined boundaries of her home and entered schools , colleges and defined their roles at the work place !
Anandi effectively juggles her work life, her social life, her home, family life and traditions and festivities !!
Most men mistakenly perceive emancipation of women, as losing power and control over their women !
But the fortunate few...like Jagya and Shiv... see it as a wonderful union of equals !
The true strength of a man is not in domination, it is in being strong enough to respect her for her life choices !!

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