Episode 428 Discussion: 13th Nov 2013

kal shooting in the studio, aaj drama in RK mansion..👏

Originally posted by: river123

I felt like RK was giving Madhu all the indications he could on his state of mind - without explicitly saying it. But Madhu was not picking up on these hints. She probably won't, until it all explodes in her face.

• I did not like RK going to Dips room, just to have the last word. Actually, like it or not, she knows what buttons to press with him - she does know him well.
• Ok, now I am feeling optimistic - we are going to have a separation soon - probably even by the end of this week or next. Which would be good as far as I am concerned (I hate separations, but am not really liking watching the current situation either) - this will put an end to this painful stuff that I am trying to avoid watching.

The Precap: Madhu, you are not God.

Like it or not this seems to be going more and more in Abhimaan way...

Originally posted by: _charu_

this is what i was telling Sounds yest. but i'm happy tht Dips verbalized his insecurities pretty quick and rubbed it on his face..so may be, the issue will be taken care of temporarily, but it'll raise its ugly head in a worse way very soon...why do we get so upset tht Dips knows him better? bec. only she can relate to and hence, understand his "gray side" 😆, his egoistic self centered nature while Madhu cannot...bec. Madhu is selfless...

RK was affected by Dips words bec. he knew she was right..RK is jealous with Madhu and insecure abt his future and their future together...and his ego will never accept tht nyone can take his place...

IMO he lashed out at Madhu bec. somewhere Madhu failed him..not only Madhu, everyone around him..Bittuji, MC, his family...I cud not sympathize with Madhu bec. she failed to understand her husband...if she thinks after going through so much, after paralysis, him getting out of his own production, he will happily wait for her soup while she comes back from work, she should wake up and smell the coffee...else, do not make puppy faces , it irritates me to no end 🤢 everything will not come to her on a platter...it applies for RK as well...i dun sympathize with ny of them, i just love them for their craziness 😆

Agree with everything you said but the difference is I still sympathize with them especially RK

For Madhu : It must be frustrating that no matter how good intentions you have, you always fail in terms of actions and you almost get the opposite result of what you wanted to have

For Rk: although I might sound repetitive, but for God's sake, people should understand him, it's easy to ask him to calm down, try to come out of this using his intelligent brain, try to find solutions, not get carried away by what he hears, but when one puts themselves in his place and try to really feel what he is going through only then they can understand, A superstar with a very fat ego which was not only there for the sake of it but because this ego helped him to build an image and to defend himself from the outside world and his family too, a world and a family from whom he got nothing but betrayal uperse now he is physically helpless too, so how do we expect him to react..

I know many will say now he found love but still, love alone is not enough, Rk still lives in a society, he still needs his image, he still needs to feel successful, respected and not sidelined, and even if he loves Madhu, he will never accept to be a loser while his loved wife is a successful person, who would like that?!! nobody!!! it's about selfesteem and self respect even more than a simple jealousy, so for me if they show him that way I won't mind, the problem for him is not Madhu's success but Madhu's success while he is pointed out as a loser although personally I wouldn't call him that because it's not like he didn't try his best to make the movie, but destiny had another scenario, the scenario of paralysis.

Now the problem is neither Rk nor Madhu have a wise person in their lifes who can undertand them and guide them strongely out of their problems, Madhu used to have Padmini although the latter made many mistakes, Rk poor guy never had anyone but himself let guidance aside he wasn't spared even the betrayal of his loved ones!!!!!!

Now what would have been nice is Rk concentrating on his recovery, visiting doctors, if he doesn't stand being on sets, at least he should focus on his health try to find the best doctors and physiotherapits to recover rapidly and come back to the world he loves most "Cinema", I mean so what if he got paralysed, so what if the film is a flop, it's never the end of the world, he can stand up again and fight to get back whatever he lost.

Note: Rambling out of habit hence bit longish than necessary. 😉😆

Honestly I found it excruciatingly painful to see RK-his fears, him losing everything he called his own. And that i want him to win these battles on his own.

But that doesn't take away the fact that I do not understand Madhu.. Madhu is basically diing what she feels is best in the given situation... She Ofcourse doesn't understand what it is to lose stardom, his fears, etc n hence is not seeing what we are all seeing...

Sadly the truth is RK n Madhu have never truly understood each other but they are hopelessly in love with each other.

Actually no one has truly ever understood him apart from dipali.. The ego, arrogance, am strong is all just a facade to cover up his most deep seated fears, weaknesses, vulnerability.. He was a loner in this and will always be a loner.. I truly doubt if any of his close ones can ever see what it actually is except dipali who plays him badly with his weaknesses.. It is only He who needs to keep fighting these devils himself repeatedly throughout his life whenever they come out... No one can help him in this...

Originally posted by: dramacrazy12

Zoya ...You are right...very well written.

I always find it interesting how we tend to evaluate our self-worth. For someone who has fought bravely alone and won like RK ...a loss like this would hit him hard not only because he risks losing all he has earned so far but also because he does not know if he will ever get a chance to win it again. His failure does not come from lack of determination or courage but his physical disability...something that he has no control over in his life.

Let me digress with a small example from my own life - Years back I was on a fast track career path until I found out that I was pregnant...I decided to be a stay at home mom and take a break from my career. Things were going great and I was happy with my decision until in a certain social gathering...I had the chance to meet a very rude and vicious person who emphatically told me that I was a glorified maid taken for granted and had no personal social standing apart from my husband, she further made it a point to rub every thing on my face by quoting how my former colleagues were rising in their career and telling me that I would have no understanding of latest IT developments in the industry since I had been away so long. Soon I started feeling like a dinosaur amongst my career oriented friends and began to shy away from them. I spent a lot of time wondering if I had made a wrong decision...would I ever be good enough for a job?...had I lost my edge?...did everyone really think of me as a maid and take me for granted? Every little thing hurt ...every little comment misinterpreted and suddenly I felt suffocated and unappreciated. That is until my husband and parents realized what was happening and they stepped in to re-assure me and show me how I was adding value. They also encouraged me to take on smaller projects that I could pursue from home with flexible timing for my personal development and satisfaction. It took me a while to come to terms with my new role and he happy with myself again. What is funny is all this because of a single vicious comment and my personal choice. When I look back I see that she had vocalized my subconscious fears and that is why it stuck a nerve. Wonder how I would have reacted if it was not my choice to begin with or I had no one to re-assure me/show me a way out of my dissatisfaction or the entire world seemed to be treating me as joke. I guess that is why I sympathize with RK.

It is a difficult if not impossible challenge...he needs moral support from his family and wife and an active cheerleader like maybe a support group. For RK all these avenues are closed...his family is busy plotting and using the circumstances to their advantage, his wife is busy saving his material belongings, he cannot join a support group or have a moral coach because it will be perceived as a weakness by media and masses. He really has no one to talk to and share his heart/fears with ...other than Dips who is using the opportunity to her advantage. Even if Madhu was here, she would not understand his fears.

The point I am making is that this battle cannot be won alone easily ...even if he does it will change him maybe for better, maybe for worse.

BTW his right side is effected so painting would not work for him either. Painting with left hand is like learning everything all over.