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Posted: 11 years ago
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Episode 086

Meri Biwi

It was over ... Lavanya was leaving ... And he was not going to stop her ... But there was still one pending issue to settle ... Khushi Kumari Gupta ...

He had come home, exhausted ... The days old pounding headache, refusing to release it's hold on him ... Ordering a hot lemon tea, he had been looking forward to some much need R and R.

He had walked into his bedroom and straight into a starring role of yet another elaborate production, ripped straight from the pages of Khushi Kumari Gupta's theatrical play book ... It had taken him some moments to figure that out but to say that he was surprised, would be an understatement of his life ...

Lavanay, in spite of his many, forceful, repetitious proclamations, was sitting on his bed, draped in some bridal nonsense ... Spouting words like Aab toh aap mujeh apni Biwi kay roop mein dekh saktay hai ?

Biwi ka roop ? What was this supposed to archive ??!!! Was he supposed to see her draped as a bride ... And just lose it ??? And just like that, fall to his knees, proclaiming he had see the light and was now giving up his evil, hedonistic, sinful ways and falling into respectful matrimony ... Really ??? That easy, huh ???

Ya ASR ... Really ... That easy ... Yaad karo ... Shaid do din pehlay ki baat ... The pink Chunri ...

First the proposal ... Now this !!! He had lost it ... He had warned her just this morning ... And yet here she was ... Dressed as his Biwi ... He yells, Mujeh pasand nahin hai ki tum meri Biwi ki tehrah behave karo ...

Meri Biwi !!! Di jaldi aao !!! He is not talking like a man with a strong aversion to Shaddi ... Biwi and other such vocabulary ... Don't wait a millisecond ... Pin him down ... Tie him up ... Abhi abhi pheray karwa do ... Maan jayayga ... Ask him, Kiss ko Biwi Bol rahay ho ??? Batao toh sahi ... Abhi sab intazam ho jayayga ...

His Biwi ??? He knows her ??? He knows how she behaves ??? How she dresses ??? How she talks ???

He does. And the one standing in front of him, dressed as his Biwi would ... use filmi words like his Biwi would ... pull over the top dramatical stunts as his Biwi would, is not her ...

He had read her the riot act, irritated further by her furtively stolen glances towards the bathroom ... He had turned and looked ... No surprises there ...

If we are talking about Biwi ka roop ... He needs to look no further ... His gaze softens momentarily ... His heart rejoices at the sight of her ... But then reality sinks it's sharp teeth ... She did this !!!

She ??? The one who had looked at him with hopeful questioning eyes ... Asking him if he understood what the Chunri on her head meant ... He, who scoffs at such foolishness, had been unbelievingly stunned ... But he had understood ... He had longed to believe ... And he had. The real question now seems is ... Did she understand ??? Did she believe ??? Apparently not !!!

Is she the same girl who fervently, devotedly attaches inordinate amount of significance to such meaningless occurrences ... Had made such a fuss about the Ghee on his shirt cuff, and now was apparently blowing away the one incident that had shook him to his core ... Made him want to believe in this hocus pocus ...

Blowing it away as though it were a silly old wives tale ... As nonchalantly ... As carelessly ... as heartlessly, as he would have ... Make up your mind Ms Gupta ... These things mean something or they don't ... Can't have it both ways ...

He had grabbed her by the wrist, pulling her into the room to make her stand next to Lavanya ... Looking at her with accusing eyes ...

If it weren't happening to him, he would have enjoyed the ludicrous absurdity of the situation ... Side by side ... His girlfriend and his ??? He rolls his eyes at the ridiculousness. These girls !!! Their audacity !!! He can't believe the stunts they are trying to pull ...

If she is going to ignore and run roughshod over one of their most magical, most pivotal moment ... Then so be it ... He knows how to play this game and he knows it better than her ...

She starts to leave ... Ek minute ... With rapidly unravelling, yet admirably restrained softness he starts ... He understands this is a little out of her scope of experience ... So for that reason alone ... She needs to quit interfering ... His life ... His choices ... His lifestyle ... And predictably she tells him exactly what she thinks of that.

Khushi gone, the fight escalates ... A woman demanding something more than he is wiling to give ... A woman questioning her role in his life ... His in hers ... Why can't they marry ... Is he scared ... Scared ??? He just about bursts a nerve ... Pyar nahin hai mujhsay ??? Koi parwah nahin hai meri ... Agar koi Farak nahi padta toh hum kuon nahin kar saktay hum shaddi ... It shouldn't matter to him either way ... Right ???

Is liya nahin kar saktay kuon ki koi Farak nahi padta ... If she stays or leaves ... It really does not matter ...

She knows that she does not want to live like this ... Dar dar kay ... Wondering each day if he loves her or not ... She wants much more from him. He clearly states he cannot give her more ...

And so our flighty, ditsy, La grows up some and makes a decision of a strong bold woman ... It is all or nothing ... Toh phir Bahut hua ... Mein ja rahi ho ...

He makes no attempt to stop her ...

Does he think of the moment when Khushi was leaving him and going to Lucknow ... Does he remember his tortured plea to stop her ... Khushi !!! Tum assay nahin ... Does he now know ki kiss Kay janay sa Farak padta hai ... If he does, he ignores it.

He marches down the stairs ... Barreling straight for her ... Khushi steps back in alarm ... Only to be steadied by his Di. Khushi stands leaning back, her shoulders supported by Di ... Terrified of his temper ... Guilty, that she is the cause of this completely unforeseen turn of events ...

If she is going to such dramatic length to foist someone else on him ... If she is blind and deaf to this thing between them ... If she wants out ...Then he will grant her what she wants ... Hisab poora ... She is no longer need ... Issay kah dijiyay ... Iss ghar say or Meir zindigi say bahar nikal jaay ...
Edited by Ipoona - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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EPISODE 86

Navratri connection...

Connection of Navratri of this year:First three Avatar of Khushi will be Durga, Parvati, and Kali.She is going to play all three roles here.{Durga ,Kumari as a young child } She will win almost everyone's heart especially Arnav's with her childish acts.{Paravati as a young woman}She is going to develop feelings as a young woman towards Arnav her discovery of Dhak Dhak and solving La and Arnav's issues .{Kali as a mature woman} She will be strong and mature during Babuji's incident , Diwali, etc and will be Kali to be ready for Shyam's avatar during his revelation.

[Just like Janmashtami this epi is full of symbolisms]


Epi starts...Arnav's bewilderment changes into bark after seeing La in bridal avatar...

"Didn't I say this already...Don't behave like my wife ...How many times I have to say that..."

La looks at Khushi with her side eyes and both are scared which makes him look at her hiding there.

He looks at her with astonishment and that changes in pain and pain changes into tears with disappointment .His bitterly pain can be seen in his eyes as he was not expecting that from her after last night when she poured her heart out in front of him. With painful teary eyes and flaring nostrils he drags her out from the bathroom.La and Khushi shares a scared look with each other.He looks at both of them and turns his face [always when he does not want to face reality to keep his ego up] and closed his eyes,"I can't believe this"...

Bingo he is not angry at Khushi but disappointed and hurt yes.Khushi seeing him in pain tries to evade from there but Arnav,"eik minute"[One minute}

Pause here: His one closed fist and other hand is open.His redemption door will always be open each time when he will be harsh with Khushi.The same way the night when he threw Khushi out of his car and came back in his room.One fist closed one hand open and he rectified right away by looking for it in the night all the way to her home to see her drunk feeling him the very first time.

PONDERING CONNECTED DOTS:

He found her in her hiding in his closet that day and went speechless with astonishment that how come she is here after whatever happened in between them and at the top she left him "Hamesha keh liyeh" regardless he couldn't throw her out of his brain and heart despite throwing pearls out into the air.

Today he found her in his room in the bathroom and stunned at her again how come she is here doing all this after whatever happened in between them especially when they both threw their hearts out on each other by sharing secretive anguish moments with each other that's why it was "I can't believe this" moment came again in front of him.Just beautiful.

La realizes this quickly this time as she knows he will yell at her like last time.,"ASR ..."But ASR throws his daggers at La and she looks down with fear,...

He comes close to Khushi,

"I can realize the way you raise up ,your thinking is different ...but there is no place of your low mentality here...over here it is against the etiquettes to interfere in others life but you will not understand...its my fault as I am expecting this from you to understand my life style"

Khushi who listened each and every word of him gathers her courage to say,"Apni kamzoriyon ko apne life style keh peeche mat chupaeye.."[Don't hide your weaknesses behind your life style.]

Arnav with gritting his teeth,"I know how to cross all the limits but I am quiet because of Di so get the hell out of this room"He sees her fear and uneasiness while gazing her from her hands to face as she was fidgeting with her Dupatta her respect.

He gulps this pain of being mad at her but the pain which is eating him alive is he can't have her or she will not be hers without Marriage a relationship which is meaningless for him because of his painful past.

He turns and tells La to change.He repeats but La answers back with some backbone."No".ASR,"what do you want La"

La,"You and I both know what I want but the real question is what do you want"[BIG Q IF HE CAN FIND THE ANSWER]

ASR,"Its clear from the very first day what I want,I never lied to you or made any false promise of marriage.You and I know this that we will live together but will never marry ...Then why are you behaving like this Dammit..."

La,"Why do you have a fear to get marry"

Arnav,"You think I am scared...

La,then why are we not getting marry?If you are not scared or it doesn't affect you then why can't we get marry?

Unintentionally La hit the target of his triggering pain and scare...of this MARRIAGE.

La,"You don't love me or care about me,

ASR,"no I don't care about you that's why I kept you besides all the odds and against of all because I lost my brain...He screamed at her/

[Remember A persom screams when he/she tries to hide flaws]

La declares she can't live with him like this.

During all of this fiasco House ladies get upset.Anjali is right Mamiji its their personal matter.Khushi is the most vulnerable here as she is blaming herself along with Mamiji for all of this.She tries hard to stop La along with Anjali but alas.I really liked La in this epi for standing up for herself and felt sorry for her too.

ASR climbs down the stairs and approaches to Khushi with his daggering rage at her,Anjali tries to talk to him but he is up to no good.

ASR,"enough Di, yeh sab tumhari wajha se huwa hai, aap sub logon ne sun liyah na la yeh ghar chod kar ja rahi hai...ab iss larki ki iss ghar mein koi zaroorat nahi hai...Ise keh dijiye iss ghar se, meri zindagi se nikal jaye...

{All this happened because of you, everyone heard that La is leaving so we don't need this girl...give her money and tell her to go away from my house and my life...

Khushi is hurt by "Meri Zindagi se nikal jaye"[Get out of my life] and he wants her to realize it the same way he did that day he yelled at her for leaving him Hamesha key liye without realizing the pain she caused for him.

Bingo both know the meanings of what he said,"Par jaan keh anjan hain"[They both want to remain as they don't know]

He walks out of the house without listening Anjali...

Pause here: Arnav,"tell her to go away from my house and my life" Bingo so she is part of your life you are telling her this indirectly and she is receiving it but because you can't have her at your terms and she can't be with you putting belief system aside so what is left your deep burning love for each other which is not going let either one of you breath no matter what."Hum saans hi nahi...

Lamha-e-Fikeriya[Thinkable moment:] He is walking out but why there is a slight satisfaction that whatever happened it happened for good from his side.Why I am getting vibes here"Jo kaam woh khud nahin kar paya woh Khushi ki badaulat ho gayea"[What ever he couldn't do it ,it happened because of Khushi.He couldn't get rid off La as he is so annoyed by her these days but it happened so what.He is not angry at Khushi this is like show off anger.He is having a point here though.Think ppl leaving it to you..


Khushi's pain has no limit.She is one selfless person and she knows unintentionally she is the cause of La's pain which she can't bear.Naniji is happy but her words are more hurtful to her.

In GH,Khushi in her kitchen having her monologue with DM and her tea with rusk."agar unhain Shakar ki bimari hai tou yeh zaroori hai keh woh doosron ki zindagi mein bhi karwahat gholain"[If he has problem with sugar it doesn't mean he has to make other ppl life bitter too] Love this selfless girl she knows La loves LG .Just wait until you will see your LG hugging La and your tears will give you an answer my Temptalicious!!!

Payal reminds her about the Navratri.

Symbolism and connections:18 jars together.as there are two numbers 1 and 8 in 18 and when we add em up its 9[Navratri----9 days]


1-In Hebrew 18 is called as Chai symbol and Jews give charity in multiples of 18 as Chai giving meaning giving life. AND In Hinduism there are a lot is related with # 18 one example is there are 18 chapters of B.Geeta and much more...

2-All components of 1+ 8= 9 which is sexually powerful, and can imagine the results it gives. Number 9 is dominated, as well as the number 1, so the number is 18 wants to be a determinant of the heart. Partner should be gentle and docile, otherwise nothing will come. In addition, it should be the primary sex number 9, because the number 18 is unable to openly express their feelings and desires. This number is a very loyal friend, but they are not easy to live with.

CONNECTION : very clear the sexual tension in between Arnav and Khushi will increase day by day but both will be unable to accept anything regardless to be there for each other in pain and sorrow as a LOYAL partner.Arnav will get more aggressive as his urge for Khushi is increasing day by day and we all know what is going to happen on Diwali.They both will be burning with desires and feel for each other but openly won't accept it and do you need me to say that Living with Arnav is not easy.uhhh

In RM,Whole family in Mandir for Navratri Pooja where Shyam "Apne moun mian mitthoo"[praising himself] and Anjali in the distress of Arnav and La 's condition as Chote does not want to get marry.He is so right here Anjali Divine forces know the best."Uper wale ne jho bhi kia hai soch samajh keh kia hai na"

He is slipping here to convince everyone so Khushi will be hers as he is saying it for Sale Sahib"a tou aap iss Dil ko nahin jantin ...ya phir Lukhnow ki larkiyon ko nahin jantin"[Either you don't know the heart or Lukhnow's girl]

"Unka Dil apne aap Dadhkane lage ga"[His heart will get his heart beat]

Seriously he is our Cupid with slimy arrows.

I did not like how he got away from Khushi's today.Perfect motive but odd timing in this triangle. Anjali's worries for Khushi shows her sweet nature and bonding in these two souls as Mothers[DM and their moms] know the best in this case.

Symbolism and connection:He gives Navratri's things to Khushi.How beautiful as I explained above Navratri------9 days----Chai--------meaning life giving as its written by FATE he is our cupid he is giving life to Khushi and Arnav relation .

Anjali is worried about Chote as he needs someone in his life who can love him and care about him she has no idea as Khushi is going to cross every limit with that.OK guys don't know about you but I did not like him touching Anjali today at all.

Kushi calls La but she refuses to deviate from her decision to please Arnav as he did not stop her while she was leaving. Love La here she did acknowledge Khushi and her triumphs for making things better in La's life.Sweet...Khushi plz learn something from La over here...

Symbolism and connection:La's reflection as she is totally unaware of Khushi and Arnav's equation.Clock time is approx 3 and 3 closet doors as this # represents success as she will be back for a while.

Then Khushi calls up Anjali to do something to get them back together but amazingly Arnav picks up the phone. Khushi gets scared & disconnects the phone.He damn knows its her.[The same thing happens when she calls during remarriage in Buaji's voice and here comes "shut up Khushi]She calls second time and he stares the phone first and then picks up but she can't be able to say anything and disconnects again.Love stern look of Arnav here. Khushi,"Woh phone peh thora hi na kha jaye ga"[

He will not eat you on phone} Selfless cookie is doing all of this for La.Love her plea to DM .I love Babuji here he is such a sweet father and his love for her is immensely visible through his smile over her childish moves.She calls again 3rdtime by saying DM's name three time [# 3 for victory]


Symbolism and connection:Two jars on Khushi's table are closer now [as these were apart in epi 58-59 ]as relationship among all is getting gripping and riveting and the sexual tension among these two is increasing too especially from Arnav's side.

ASR with his tone ,"Jab koi baat nahin karni tou phone kar keh mera waqt kyuon barbad kar rahi ho KKG" [if you don't want to speak then why wasting my time]

Khushi jerks up,"How does he know its me"..Bewaqoof girl he always knows ,you are the one taking forever to get it...uhhh...Khushi tries to clear her side to make him understand its all her fault not La's but he is not in a mood to listen any of this.

Pause here:He is relaxed by this break up and does not like a bit that Khushi is not getting it.He is not angry just upset with her over her innocent brain which is not getting his vibes.

Khushi and her bright ideas writing a love letter to Arnav from La but this letter is sending wrong signals to Buaji for Slitherwa...yikes...and breaking Payal's ventilation system how can she love ASR. Payal's brian is on vacation and will be resumed when Arnav will patch her up with Akash.She is right at one thing if DM wants them to be together then there is no need of this love letter.

You Paagal Khushi , DM and all the mothers' union of the star world got you your guy and he is right in front of you,your LG.Sheesh...

Khushi goes to RM and Mamiji taunts her but Anjali supports her.Mamiji,"Dair se aye par durust aye ...laut keh stupid ghar ko aeye" So true prediction for future.Naniji and her joy has no limit as she serves the sweets to her which makes Khushi more sad.

Anjali takes her to Arnav for check.When Anjali leaves he gives a smirky taunted look to Khushi ,"So that's why you called ...since when you are ashamed of asking money" Khushi," I am not here for money'

She gives him the letter and the way she describes it that clearly shows how much he means to her as his SORRY really kind a stuck to her.She does not want him to say sorry to anyone.While she is saying this to him his expressions deliver the message if you cares then why do I need La. He reads it and tears it in pieces by giving her this message I don't care she comes or not but at the top he throws at her meaning keep your ideas to yourself.Arnav,"this is the answer of your letter,collect it and give it to the person who wrote it "meaning I hope you got my message.



Edited by ArshiHamesha - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I love this episode... Wanted to read Rubys take on the suhag Raat with la...staged by Khushi..
Ipoona , arshi have given wonderful interpretations to it..
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Posted: 11 years ago
#5

Originally posted by: Ipoona

Episode 086

Meri Biwi

It was over ... Lavanya was leaving ... And he was not going to stop her ... But there was still one pending issue to settle ... Khushi Kumari Gupta ...

He had come home, exhausted ... The days old pounding headache, refusing to release it's hold on him ... Ordering a hot lemon tea, he had been looking forward to some much need R and R.

He had walked into his bedroom and straight into a starring role of yet another elaborate production, ripped straight from the pages of Khushi Kumari Gupta's theatrical play book ... It had taken him some moments to figure that out but to say that he was surprised, would be an understatement of his life ...

Lavanay, in spite of his many, forceful, repetitious proclamations, was sitting on his bed, draped in some bridal nonsense ... Spouting words like Aab toh aap mujeh apni Biwi kay roop mein dekh saktay hai ?

Biwi ka roop ? What was this supposed to archive ??!!! Was he supposed to see her draped as a bride ... And just lose it ??? And just like that, fall to his knees, proclaiming he had see the light and was now giving up his evil, hedonistic, sinful ways and falling into respectful matrimony ... Really ??? That easy, huh ???

Ya ASR ... Really ... That easy ... Yaad karo ... Shaid do din pehlay ki baat ... The pink Chunri ...

First the proposal ... Now this !!! He had lost it ... He had warned her just this morning ... And yet here she was ... Dressed as his Biwi ... He yells, Mujeh pasand nahin hai ki tum meri Biwi ki tehrah behave karo ...

Meri Biwi !!! Di jaldi aao !!! He is not talking like a man with a strong aversion to Shaddi ... Biwi and other such vocabulary ... Don't wait a millisecond ... Pin him down ... Tie him up ... Abhi abhi pheray karwa do ... Maan jayayga ... Ask him, Kiss ko Biwi Bol rahay ho ??? Batao toh sahi ... Abhi sab intazam ho jayayga ...

His Biwi ??? He knows her ??? He knows how she behaves ??? How she dresses ??? How she talks ???

He does. And the one standing in front of him, dressed as his Biwi would ... use filmi words like his Biwi would ... pull over the top dramatical stunts as his Biwi would, is not her ...

He had read her the riot act, irritated further by her furtively stolen glances towards the bathroom ... He had turned and looked ... No surprises there ...

If we are talking about Biwi ka roop ... He needs to look no further ... His gaze softens momentarily ... His heart rejoices at the sight of her ... But then reality sinks it's sharp teeth ... She did this !!!

She ??? The one who had looked at him with hopeful questioning eyes ... Asking him if he understood what the Chunri on her head meant ... He, who scoffs at such foolishness, had been unbelievingly stunned ... But he had understood ... He had longed to believe ... And he had. The real question now seems is ... Did she understand ??? Did she believe ??? Apparently not !!!

Is she the same girl who fervently, devotedly attaches inordinate amount of significance to such meaningless occurrences ... Had made such a fuss about the Ghee on his shirt cuff, and now was apparently blowing away the one incident that had shook him to his core ... Made him want to believe in this hocus pocus ...

Blowing it away as though it were a silly old wives tale ... As nonchalantly ... As carelessly ... as heartlessly, as he would have ... Make up your mind Ms Gupta ... These things mean something or they don't ... Can't have it both ways ...

He had grabbed her by the wrist, pulling her into the room to make her stand next to Lavanya ... Looking at her with accusing eyes ...

If it weren't happening to him, he would have enjoyed the ludicrous absurdity of the situation ... Side by side ... His girlfriend and his ??? He rolls his eyes at the ridiculousness. These girls !!! Their audacity !!! He can't believe the stunts they are trying to pull ...

If she is going to ignore and run roughshod over one of their most magical, most pivotal moment ... Then so be it ... He knows how to play this game and he knows it better than her ...

She starts to leave ... Ek minute ... With rapidly unravelling, yet admirably restrained softness he starts ... He understands this is a little out of her scope of experience ... So for that reason alone ... She needs to quit interfering ... His life ... His choices ... His lifestyle ... And predictably she tells him exactly what she thinks of that.

Khushi gone, the fight escalates ... A woman demanding something more than he is wiling to give ... A woman questioning her role in his life ... His in hers ... Why can't they marry ... Is he scared ... Scared ??? He just about bursts a nerve ... Pyar nahin hai mujhsay ??? Koi parwah nahin hai meri ... Agar koi Farak nahi padta toh hum kuon nahin kar saktay hum shaddi ... It shouldn't matter to him either way ... Right ???

Is liya nahin kar saktay kuon ki koi Farak nahi padta ... If she stays or leaves ... It really does not matter ...

She knows that she does not want to live like this ... Dar dar kay ... Wondering each day if he loves her or not ... She wants much more from him. He clearly states he cannot give her more ...

And so our flighty, ditsy, La grows up some and makes a decision of a strong bold woman ... It is all or nothing ... Toh phir Bahut hua ... Mein ja rahi ho ...

He makes no attempt to stop her ...

Does he think of the moment when Khushi was leaving him and going to Lucknow ... Does he remember his tortured plea to stop her ... Khushi !!! Tum assay nahin ... Does he now know ki kiss Kay janay sa Farak padta hai ... If he does, he ignores it.

He marches down the stairs ... Barreling straight for her ... Khushi steps back in alarm ... Only to be steadied by his Di. Khushi stands leaning back, her shoulders supported by Di ... Terrified of his temper ... Guilty, that she is the cause of this completely unforeseen turn of events ...

If she is going to such dramatic length to foist someone else on him ... If she is blind and deaf to this thing between them ... If she wants out ...Then he will grant her what she wants ... Hisab poora ... She is no longer need ... Issay kah dijiyay ... Iss ghar say or Meir zindigi say bahar nikal jaay ...


Ipoona😊

You summed up the scene very well.👏
Yes he has enough and wants her to leave him alone but that is not the solution as he tried these meds already by throwing her out ,from office...from home ,...from his car but he is unsuccessful in doing so and she is rules him over his heart and brain.She runs in his veins.
Indeed Khushi can't understand and my my my he was so soft with his control...Main samjh sakta hoon...She is bitter batter the very same Khushi way but he had enough.My grabber is she just can't get away from him as you mentioned ...the chunari did effect her too because it was hard for her to let go of it too when La was pulling it herself.At that time his eyes refuse to leave her alone as she was his as always and with Dupata she made it sure she is his and he gupls his desires when she takes off her Dupatta.


Now how can he stand another woman in the same avatar and that is the beauty of ASR as he never mixes his commitment with anything.His commitment is Khushi ...later he will tell her firmly...Main Lavanya pyar nahin karta aur shyad khabi karta bhi nahin tha...

Khushi on the other hand is selfless cookie and irritating at this point for him.His headache and his Marham...
La expects more but why ,just because Khuhi put this idea in her head then this is not love ,this is just He looks good with me...just like a designer bag which can be replaced.

She never loved Arnav but she did think of him as her mate for social circle not for her heart.She did change herself for ASR which Naniji mentions later...Jaun larki ne apne aapko itna badal diya...usee aise hi jane dain...
Naniji yes there was a reason and there is a reason as always...Khushi...his headache
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Posted: 11 years ago
#6

Originally posted by: msin

I love this episode... Wanted to read Rubys take on the suhag Raat with la...staged by Khushi..

Ipoona , arshi have given wonderful interpretations to it..


Thnx msin😊 glad you liked it.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ArshiHamesha

EPISODE 86


Navratri connection...

Connection of Navratri of this year:First three Avatar of Khushi will be Durga, Parvati, and Kali.She is going to play all three roles here.{Durga ,Kumari as a young child } She will win almost everyone's heart especially Arnav's with her childish acts.{Paravati as a young woman}She is going to develop feelings as a young woman towards Arnav her discovery of Dhak Dhak and solving La and Arnav's issues .{Kali as a mature woman} She will be strong and mature during Babuji's incident , Diwali, etc and will be Kali to be ready for Shyam's avatar during his revelation.

[Just like Janmashtami this epi is full of symbolisms]

Hi ArshiH ... Again did not know too much about navratri ... Really like the connection with Khushi ... Although the post second marriage, Khushi should a decided lack of maturity ... Don't need to mention any scenes ... I am sure all of is have some we were left wondering what just happened to this character ... But definitely all three Devi Roops are present well last the first half ...


Epi starts...Arnav's bewilderment changes into bark after seeing La in bridal avatar...

"Didn't I say this already...Don't behave like my wife ...How many times I have to say that..."

La looks at Khushi with her side eyes and both are scared which makes him look at her hiding there.

He looks at her with astonishment and that changes in pain and pain changes into tears with disappointment .His bitterly pain can be seen in his eyes as he was not expecting that from her after last night when she poured her heart out in front of him. With painful teary eyes and flaring nostrils he drags her out from the bathroom.La and Khushi shares a scared look with each other.He looks at both of them and turns his face [always when he does not want to face reality to keep his ego up] and closed his eyes,"I can't believe this"...

Bingo he is not angry at Khushi but disappointed and hurt yes.Khushi seeing him in pain tries to evade from there but Arnav,"eik minute"[One minute}

Yes ... The girl who made him doubt himself ... Is now pretending like nothing happened ... And us he'll bent on foisting another on him ... Does he foget his own role in this ..

Pause here: His one closed fist and other hand is open.His redemption door will always be open each time when he will be harsh with Khushi.The same way the night when he threw Khushi out of his car and came back in his room.One fist closed one hand open and he rectified right away by looking for it in the night all the way to her home to see her drunk feeling him the very first time.

Love this ArshiH ... Did not notice it ... Will have to go back and watch ...really briniant attention to detail on your part ... Their body language ... Really does convey a lot of hidden text ...

PONDERING CONNECTED DOTS:

He found her in her hiding in his closet that day and went speechless with astonishment that how come she is here after whatever happened in between them and at the top she left him "Hamesha keh liyeh" regardless he couldn't throw her out of his brain and heart despite throwing pearls out into the air.

Today he found her in his room in the bathroom and stunned at her again how come she is here doing all this after whatever happened in between them especially when they both threw their hearts out on each other by sharing secretive anguish moments with each other that's why it was "I can't believe this" moment came again in front of him.Just beautiful.

Are you saying he said I can't believe this because he found her hiding there or at they're audacity ... I read it as he is incredulous that she can go to such extremes ... He is on a slippery slope with her around ... The love of his life handing him his girlfriend in a platter ...

La realizes this quickly this time as she knows he will yell at her like last time.,"ASR ..."But ASR throws his daggers at La and she looks down with fear,...

He comes close to Khushi,

"I can realize the way you raise up ,your thinking is different ...but there is no place of your low mentality here...over here it is against the etiquettes to interfere in others life but you will not understand...its my fault as I am expecting this from you to understand my life style"

Khushi who listened each and every word of him gathers her courage to say,"Apni kamzoriyon ko apne life style keh peeche mat chupaeye.."[Don't hide your weaknesses behind your life style.]

Arnav with gritting his teeth,"I know how to cross all the limits but I am quiet because of Di so get the hell out of this room"He sees her fear and uneasiness while gazing her from her hands to face as she was fidgeting with her Dupatta her respect.

He gulps this pain of being mad at her but the pain which is eating him alive is he can't have her or she will not be hers without Marriage a relationship which is meaningless for him because of his painful past.

He turns and tells La to change.He repeats but La answers back with some backbone."No".ASR,"what do you want La"

La,"You and I both know what I want but the real question is what do you want"[BIG Q IF HE CAN FIND THE ANSWER]

ASR,"Its clear from the very first day what I want,I never lied to you or made any false promise of marriage.You and I know this that we will live together but will never marry ...Then why are you behaving like this Dammit..."

La,"Why do you have a fear to get marry"

Arnav,"You think I am scared...

La,then why are we not getting marry?If you are not scared or it doesn't affect you then why can't we get marry?

Unintentionally La hit the target of his triggering pain and scare...of this MARRIAGE.

La,"You don't love me or care about me,

ASR,"no I don't care about you that's why I kept you besides all the odds and against of all because I lost my brain...He screamed at her/

[Remember A persom screams when he/she tries to hide flaws]

La declares she can't live with him like this.

I loved La in this scene ... Toh phir bahut hua ... For once she shows she values herself and will not settle for half measures ... or ever be second best ... This change is defiantly due to Khushi's influence ... La has learnt well ... I love that she does walk away ... and is really leaving for London ... It is not ploy to bring him back ...

During all of this fiasco House ladies get upset.Anjali is right Mamiji its their personal matter.Khushi is the most vulnerable here as she is blaming herself along with Mamiji for all of this.She tries hard to stop La along with Anjali but alas.I really liked La in this epi for standing up for herself and felt sorry for her too.

ASR climbs down the stairs and approaches to Khushi with his daggering rage at her,Anjali tries to talk to him but he is up to no good.

ASR,"enough Di, yeh sab tumhari wajha se huwa hai, aap sub logon ne sun liyah na la yeh ghar chod kar ja rahi hai...ab iss larki ki iss ghar mein koi zaroorat nahi hai...Ise keh dijiye iss ghar se, meri zindagi se nikal jaye...

{All this happened because of you, everyone heard that La is leaving so we don't need this girl...give her money and tell her to go away from my house and my life...

Khushi is hurt by "Meri Zindagi se nikal jaye"[Get out of my life] and he wants her to realize it the same way he did that day he yelled at her for leaving him Hamesha key liye without realizing the pain she caused for him.

Bingo both know the meanings of what he said,"Par jaan keh anjan hain"[They both want to remain as they don't know]

He walks out of the house without listening Anjali...

Pause here: Arnav,"tell her to go away from my house and my life" Bingo so she is part of your life you are telling her this indirectly and she is receiving it but because you can't have her at your terms and she can't be with you putting belief system aside so what is left your deep burning love for each other which is not going let either one of you breath no matter what."Hum saans hi nahi...

I read it similarly ... Meir Biwi ... I don't really thinks he has sat down and devised scenarios that she will be his Biwi ... But I think his defenses have melted away and this idea ... Biwi ... Dhulan ... Are starting to take root ...

Lamha-e-Fikeriya[Thinkable moment:] He is walking out but why there is a slight satisfaction that whatever happened it happened for good from his side.Why I am getting vibes here"Jo kaam woh khud nahin kar paya woh Khushi ki badaulat ho gayea"[What ever he couldn't do it ,it happened because of Khushi.He couldn't get rid off La as he is so annoyed by her these days but it happened so what.He is not angry at Khushi this is like show off anger.He is having a point here though.Think ppl leaving it to you..


Khushi's pain has no limit.She is one selfless person and she knows unintentionally she is the cause of La's pain which she can't bear.Naniji is happy but her words are more hurtful to her.

In GH,Khushi in her kitchen having her monologue with DM and her tea with rusk."agar unhain Shakar ki bimari hai tou yeh zaroori hai keh woh doosron ki zindagi mein bhi karwahat gholain"[If he has problem with sugar it doesn't mean he has to make other ppl life bitter too] Love this selfless girl she knows La loves LG .Just wait until you will see your LG hugging La and your tears will give you an answer my Temptalicious!!!

Payal reminds her about the Navratri.

Symbolism and connections:18 jars together.as there are two numbers 1 and 8 in 18 and when we add em up its 9[Navratri----9 days]


1-In Hebrew 18 is called as Chai symbol and Jews give charity in multiples of 18 as Chai giving meaning giving life. AND In Hinduism there are a lot is related with # 18 one example is there are 18 chapters of B.Geeta and much more...

2-All components of 1+ 8= 9 which is sexually powerful, and can imagine the results it gives. Number 9 is dominated, as well as the number 1, so the number is 18 wants to be a determinant of the heart. Partner should be gentle and docile, otherwise nothing will come. In addition, it should be the primary sex number 9, because the number 18 is unable to openly express their feelings and desires. This number is a very loyal friend, but they are not easy to live with.

CONNECTION : very clear the sexual tension in between Arnav and Khushi will increase day by day but both will be unable to accept anything regardless to be there for each other in pain and sorrow as a LOYAL partner.Arnav will get more aggressive as his urge for Khushi is increasing day by day and we all know what is going to happen on Diwali.They both will be burning with desires and feel for each other but openly won't accept it and do you need me to say that Living with Arnav is not easy.uhhh

ArshiH ... When I saw these unusually large number of jars stacked ... I knew you would explain in detail ... Love this as being used as a clue to future story telling ... How brilliant of the writes to incorporate such elements ... We sure ar glad to have you to explain all this... Otherwise kis ko Kay pata tha ...

Sexual tension is right ... Happy days ahead ...

In RM,Whole family in Mandir for Navratri Pooja where Shyam "Apne moun mian mitthoo"[praising himself] and Anjali in the distress of Arnav and La 's condition as Chote does not want to get marry.He is so right here Anjali Divine forces know the best."Uper wale ne jho bhi kia hai soch samajh keh kia hai na"

He is slipping here to convince everyone so Khushi will be hers as he is saying it for Sale Sahib"a tou aap iss Dil ko nahin jantin ...ya phir Lukhnow ki larkiyon ko nahin jantin"[Either you don't know the heart or Lukhnow's girl]

"Unka Dil apne aap Dadhkane lage ga"[His heart will get his heart beat]

Seriously he is our Cupid with slimy arrows.

I did not like how he got away from Khushi's today.Perfect motive but odd timing in this triangle. Anjali's worries for Khushi shows her sweet nature and bonding in these two souls as Mothers[DM and their moms] know the best in this case.

Symbolism and connection:He gives Navratri's things to Khushi.How beautiful as I explained above Navratri------9 days----Chai--------meaning life giving as its written by FATE he is our cupid he is giving life to Khushi and Arnav relation .

Poor dude ... Not his intention at all to play this Cupid ...

Anjali is worried about Chote as he needs someone in his life who can love him and care about him she has no idea as Khushi is going to cross every limit with that.OK guys don't know about you but I did not like him touching Anjali today at all.

Kushi calls La but she refuses to deviate from her decision to please Arnav as he did not stop her while she was leaving. Love La here she did acknowledge Khushi and her triumphs for making things better in La's life.Sweet...Khushi plz learn something from La over here...

Symbolism and connection:La's reflection as she is totally unaware of Khushi and Arnav's equation.Clock time is approx 3 and 3 closet doors as this # represents success as she will be back for a while.

Then Khushi calls up Anjali to do something to get them back together but amazingly Arnav picks up the phone. Khushi gets scared & disconnects the phone.He damn knows its her.[The same thing happens when she calls during remarriage in Buaji's voice and here comes "shut up Khushi]She calls second time and he stares the phone first and then picks up but she can't be able to say anything and disconnects again.Love stern look of Arnav here. Khushi,"Woh phone peh thora hi na kha jaye ga"[

He will not eat you on phone} Selfless cookie is doing all of this for La.Love her plea to DM .I love Babuji here he is such a sweet father and his love for her is immensely visible through his smile over her childish moves.She calls again 3rdtime by saying DM's name three time [# 3 for victory]


Symbolism and connection:Two jars on Khushi's table are closer now [as these were apart in epi 58-59 ]as relationship among all is getting gripping and riveting and the sexual tension among these two is increasing too especially from Arnav's side.

Another brilliant subtext. ...

ASR with his tone ,"Jab koi baat nahin karni tou phone kar keh mera waqt kyuon barbad kar rahi ho KKG" [if you don't want to speak then why wasting my time]

Khushi jerks up,"How does he know its me"..Bewaqoof girl he always knows ,you are the one taking forever to get it...uhhh...Khushi tries to clear her side to make him understand its all her fault not La's but he is not in a mood to listen any of this.

Pause here:He is relaxed by this break up and does not like a bit that Khushi is not getting it.He is not angry just upset with her over her innocent brain which is not getting his vibes.

Khushi and her bright ideas writing a love letter to Arnav from La but this letter is sending wrong signals to Buaji for Slitherwa...yikes...and breaking Payal's ventilation system how can she love ASR. Payal's brian is on vacation and will be resumed when Arnav will patch her up with Akash.She is right at one thing if DM wants them to be together then there is no need of this love letter.

You Paagal Khushi , DM and all the mothers' union of the star world got you your guy and he is right in front of you,your LG.Sheesh...

Khushi goes to RM and Mamiji taunts her but Anjali supports her.Mamiji,"Dair se aye par durust aye ...laut keh stupid ghar ko aeye" So true prediction for future.Naniji and her joy has no limit as she serves the sweets to her which makes Khushi more sad.

Anjali takes her to Arnav for check.When Anjali leaves he gives a smirky taunted look to Khushi ,"So that's why you called ...since when you are ashamed of asking money" Khushi," I am not here for money'

She gives him the letter and the way she describes it that clearly shows how much he means to her as his SORRY really kind a stuck to her.She does not want him to say sorry to anyone.While she is saying this to him his expressions deliver the message if you cares then why do I need La. He reads it and tears it in pieces by giving her this message I don't care she comes or not but at the top he throws at her meaning keep your ideas to yourself.Arnav,"this is the answer of your letter,collect it and give it to the person who wrote it "meaning I hope you got my message.

Loved this!!! She really does not want him to apologise to anyone else ... Her own magic moment. ...



Arshi ... Really enjoyed all the symbolism ... And all your pondering points ... Love the explaination of the18 jars ... And the two jars sitting apart. ...
Who do you think was their numerologist... Or consultant for weaving such elements into the story ... Must be the director ... Or maybe the writers. ... Very unusual method of leaving clues ... This is what drew me to your posts in the first place ... Great job!!!
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Thnx ArshiH and Ipoona ...brilliant posts.👏
Arshi Di I just loved the detailed review with all the pictography and what I say about your Connections.Such a creative and unique way of telling this story.

It is a love story but the way you incorporate this with these elements,it just enhances its beauty more and make it more compelling..😊
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Thnx Ipoona
Are you saying he said I can't believe this because he found her hiding there or at they're audacity ... I read it as he is incredulous that she can go to such extremes ... He is on a slippery slope with her around ... The love of his life handing him his girlfriend in a platter ...

Ipoona what I am trying to say he said sorry to her and she poured her heart out to him and he was so happy she opened up , he is thinking she knew what he is feeling for her and she does matter to her that's why he felt the urge for sorry... and here he sees her doing all of this.

That's why he said , main tum jaisi larki se yeh umeed karta hoon keh woh mere life style ko samjhe...he is in the initial state of developing commitment but at the same time can't go away from his norms either.

Ved Raj is the story writer and GUatum H was screen writer.Ved by profession is an engineer and scientific brain with plenty of knowledge and he mentioned some where in his interview all the others who were in his team...Later we have so many different writers to mess up the story...as they molested the character of Khushi and Anjali
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Originally posted by: Preety_Nebula

Thnx ArshiH and Ipoona ...brilliant posts.👏

Arshi Di I just loved the detailed review with all the pictography and what I say about your Connections.Such a creative and unique way of telling this story.

It is a love story but the way you incorporate this with these elements,it just enhances its beauty more and make it more compelling..😊


Hey Preeti😊

Good to see you here.I know you were not with us in the beginning .I am glad you are enjoying it.I see it at different angle and very few ppl like it as most of the ppl want to read a love angle and I am seeing a lot of different others as this is not just a love story for me , it is beyond that.

Thnx for dropping by.

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