Punish Actions, not thoughts

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I feel real empowerment of women is when girls like Ganga go after what they want. Many in this forum has expressed their displeasure about Ganga being subconsciously wanting Jagya. And that's why she did nothing to stop Jagya. They saw it something as prohibitive. I say, whats problem in pursuing her love. When educated girls like Sanchi can devise a plan to get her love Jagya, why not Ganga? Are we so morally policing her that she should not go out of conventions?
For me, she just wished for Jagya, not planned anything to get him. Thats the difference between character and crime. We should not punish the characters, only actions should be punished. Sanchi might be cruel in her thinking but she should be punished only for her deeds not thoughts. Same goes to Ganga. She should not be held responsible for her thoughts. Only her actions. Same goes to Jagya, He has done mistake in agreeing for Sanchi's proposal and breaking rishta. So he was OK to get bashed, beaten and smothered with his past. And yet he feels apologetic to these lunatics. He feels he deserves this punishments for his mistakes. But his thoughts are still valid. His conviction says, he is doing right thing for his family. No body is listening to him when he says, in long term everyone will agree with him for breaking rishta. Marriage with Ganga was not in his post break up plan. Marriage with Ganga is something that happened to retain Ganga, not to smudge salt on anyone.
Many say, Ganga already knew Jagya engaged when she came back to Jaistar? So what? If anyone has problem with Ganga, it's their problem not Ganga's. That's why I liked her when she wanted to go back to Jaitsar after finishing the course. I liked her even more when she stayed back in Mangalore when she got the idea Jagya wants to avoid her. It shows her concern was one and only Jagya. Beautiful! Love happens, love ends...and people move on. She has hopped she would move on with her life.

I don't buy that argument Ganga should have stopped Jagya from marrying. I would say, CVs have showed this marriage sequence beautifully. One important aspect of this marriage sequence is that Ganga has been freed from all moral bindings that would have kept Jagya away from her.

Ganga gets to know Jagya broke the engagement.
Ganga gets to know her Doctorsa also loves her.

She was well aware that Sanchi was a mismatch for her doctorsa. Although she was in awe with the recent revelations, she was OK with doctorsa's confession. And why not? she wants her doctorsa's happiness. I say she should be confident enough to go after her happiness too. How long she can be meek and inferior to Sanchi like people. Earlier she thought doctor would be happy with Sanchi but now she knows its not. She did not have time to analyse the situation with all of ifs and buts. As I see it, only thing that mattered to her was Jagya. Isn't this love story beautiful?

Its other thing she felt guilty after Sumitra and Ira starting blaming her...til then she was pondering if its a dream or for real. What's more, she just dreamt about hugging her doctorss few hours ago too...

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Posted: 12 years ago
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well said TM! u know im so tired of readin posts ppl saying ganga did wrong she shld control her emotions, she shldnt think n dream abt jags or that she shldnt have allowed jags to fill her mang! all these statements make me wonder if we all watched d same episode!
agreed jags cldv done this with his familys consent, but situation was such he had to act on impulse so as not to let ganga leave again! furthermore, he had already broken d rishta with sachi!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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furthermore, sachi also admitted to her family that jags didnt know of her feelings, but did that stop her from dreaming abt jags? infact look at how sachi tenaciously pursued her so called "love", she used lies, manupulation n deception, even threatened to kill herself to emotionally blackmail her family n sumitra!

why is it ok for sachi to think of jags out of love, but not ok for ganga to do d same?

point remains, jags broke d rishta with sachi before marrying ganga, there no 2ways abt it!
Edited by kritikakk - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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very true. really tired of seeing posts against Ganga. Everyone is blaming ganga for falling in love with jagya. She moon eyed him etc etc. She fell for him before Sanchi's proposal. immediately people can expect her to forget her love; still she tried to stay away from him. people who blaming ganga for falling in love indirectly supports Sanchi the one who manipulate everyone to trap the man who never reciprocate her love.
ganga left their house coz she dont want to hurt them and stayed away (some unknown place) from them just coz she really care about Singhs she dont want to create more problems between them. yes of course she didnt forget her love but at the same time she didnt plan to trap anyone like Sanchi.

Now during the marriage she was totally in shock and hurt . She was hurt by Sumi's dirty accusations against her she didnt expect jagya;s proposal and she never expected a wedding that day. everything happened beyond their control. (Even Jagya didnt plan for a wedding.) Throughout the situation she was completely in shock and she didnt defend when he filled her maang.

Somewhere i read a post saying 'does she remain silent if Bala fills her maang?' (disgusting post) here Jagya married her to protect her from his moms false accusations against her and dont want to lose his love anymore. but I dont undersand how these people were able to compare Jagya with Bala. Absurd.
Edited by shalinii173 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Lovely post. Nothing more to add. In fact, she fell in love with him long before Sanchi's proposal came in front of him. So there is no point in raising fingers for her falling in love with him.

We cannot decide with whom we'll fall in love with. There are people who fall in love with someone they used not to like before. It just happens and it is only natural.

Whatever she did can only be seen like how a person sinks to bottom of a big whirlpool from which he tries to swim away. Some things will drag you into it. No options than surrendering into it. You can't run away everytime! Life is not always in our hands...

Edit- there is a saying 'everything is fair in war and love'. Even if Ganga had made a plan to marry Jagya, I would've supported. Because her, his and his family's happiness would be its long term result. Though slowly, Singhs will accept and live happily with her. She wants everyone's happines. Not like Sanchi who executed all cheap plans to tackle and marry a man, only for her selfishness, not for the happiness of any other person! Will Jagya be happy with her in that case? Will Saanchi be happy after marriage? Will Shekhars and Singhs be happy? Only for a few days until Saanchi's true colours are out.

Sometimes small mistakes pave foundations for big rights. Else, there was no need for Krishna to ask Arjuna kill Karna! There is a right in that too. I personally find nothing wrong in what Ganga did. I'm not supporting any particular character specially. Everyone can give explanations that are valid from their points. But as a third person, I see Ganga as right only.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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good points above!

i find some statements in some post so absurd, and wonder why d double standards!
1 post i read said that ganga is a divorcee and thus shld have controlled her feelings, then went on to state that jags shldv married sachi for family happiness becoz when sachi's true colours come out d family wld themselves tell jag to divorce her!

i truely wonder if ppl actually know what they r saying in their posts! it just absurd thgs being said against ganga w/o any concrete reasonings!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Very nice post TM. Nice to read the honest pov on Ganga. Yeah she loved her Dr.Sa but never tryd or though to have him as lif partner. The innocent soul didnt understood when she started loving him. She cares for others feelings specialy for Singhs. She even try to protect them by puting her lyf in denger, and even ready to give her chiled to that monster Ratan. Coz for her Singhs are her family. She love everithing releated to her Dr.Sa. But she never tryd to show her feelings to anyone. She never tryd to show her feeling to anyone. her intension and action were never wrong.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: shalinii173

very true. really tired of seeing posts against Ganga. Everyone is blaming ganga for falling in love with jagya. She moon eyed him etc etc. She fell for him before Sanchi's proposal. immediately people can expect her to forget her love; still she tried to stay away from him. people who blaming ganga for falling in love indirectly supports Sanchi the one who manipulate everyone to trap the man who never reciprocate her love.

ganga left their house coz she dont want to hurt them and stayed away (some unknown place) from them just coz she really care about Singhs she dont want to create more problems between them. yes of course she didnt forget her love but at the same time she didnt plan to trap anyone like Sanchi.

Now during the marriage she was totally in shock and hurt . She was hurt by Sumi's dirty accusations against her she didnt expect jagya;s proposal and she never expected a wedding that day. everything happened beyond their control. (Even Jagya didnt plan for a wedding.) Throughout the situation she was completely in shock and she didnt defend when he filled her maang.

Somewhere i read a post saying 'does she remain silent if Bala fills her maang?' (disgusting post) here Jagya married her to protect her from his moms false accusations against her and dont want to lose his love anymore. but I dont undersand how these people were able to compare Jagya with Bala. Absurd.


I'm not tired of seeing those posts. I just don't agree with those posts.

And as far as Bala's case, marriage would have been invalid because Ganga wouldn't have agreed for such marriage. Both bride and Groom needs to give consent for the marriage. And rituals can not go beyond people who wants follow it. Otherwise Ganga was married when she saw her maang with doctorsa's blood.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Jamy-

Lovely post. Nothing more to add. In fact, she fell in love with him long before Sanchi's proposal came in front of him. So there is no point in raising fingers for her falling in love with him.

We cannot decide with whom we'll fall in love with. There are people who fall in love with someone they used not to like before. It just happens and it is only natural.

Whatever she did can only be seen like how a person sinks to bottom of a big whirlpool from which he tries to swim away. Some things will drag you into it. No options than surrendering into it. You can't run away everytime! Life is not always in our hands...

Edit- there is a saying 'everything is fair in war and love'. Even if Ganga had made a plan to marry Jagya, I would've supported. Because her, his and his family's happiness would be its long term result. Though slowly, Singhs will accept and live happily with her. She wants everyone's happines. Not like Sanchi who executed all cheap plans to tackle and marry a man, only for her selfishness, not for the happiness of any other person! Will Jagya be happy with her in that case? Will Saanchi be happy after marriage? Will Shekhars and Singhs be happy? Only for a few days until Saanchi's true colours are out.

Sometimes small mistakes pave foundations for big rights. Else, there was no need for Krishna to ask Arjuna kill Karna! There is a right in that too. I personally find nothing wrong in what Ganga did. I'm not supporting any particular character specially. Everyone can give explanations that are valid from their points. But as a third person, I see Ganga as right only.


Thanks!

@bold- it doesn't matter who falls in love first. It matters whether the other person is comfortable and if their love has any chances of success.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Wonderful post. Exactly what i think. I even made a post about Ganga becoming assertive. Many
Replies misunderstood what i ment. They equated it with being minipukative and obscessive
Like Sanchi. Yes, Ganga has a right yo pursue her love. Her love is pure and includes
Everything and every one near and dear to Jagia unlike Sanchi's which is on par with what
Bala had in mind.lot of people knw all his but still want to bash Ganga because she is linked with
Jagia, their ain villain. They are painting Sanchi as a real victim and rubbing the nad behaviour
of Shiv and Ira under the rug just because their target is Jagia.

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