Punish Actions, not thoughts - Page 2

Atlast a post with some fresh approach.

I did not have problems in this sindoor episode.

But I definitely wondered about her attachment towards Doctor sa without divorcing Ratan Singh, her claiming to live for Mannu but readiness to give him up to Rat only so that Doctor & his family could be saved and her thinking about Jagya after he was engaged to Sanchi.

When Sanchi was pursuing Jagya, he wasn't bound to anyone. Still we criticise her for falling for bhabhi's ex etc.

I'd have had problems with Sanchi if Jagya was already engaged or married to someone else, and she would have been thinking about him.

Similarly, though I know it is not easy to get over past, still it was an issue when Jagya had memories of Anandi after marrying Gauri (even randomly, not just after fights with Gauri) and when Anandi used to remember him or dream about him despite knowing he was now married to someone else. Or Gauri, to marry Jagya even after knowing his truth of marriage with Anandi.

Subconsciously people think anything. But there are reasons why it's all subconscious and never in conscious mind. There's something called propriety, some differentiation between right or wrong.

Even that Daddu is criticised for the way he talks to and about Kalyani ji, he's suspected to have "love" for her, he's made fun of, acceptability of his behaviour is questioned. Though both Daddu and Kalyani are single and can marry if they want, but still their being samdhis makes people either criticise Daddu or feel odd at him or joke about him.

This is a serial. Here thoughts of characters are projected onscreen vividly and those sequences are like action only for viewers. Hence they are debated.

Also I don't buy the logic that only action should be punished and thoughts should be excused. First of all, only discussions happen here. No one's punishing anyone. Secondly, thoughts, subtle signs in behaviour and gaze also matter. Otherwise, why do women feel uncomfortable when men gaze at them at public places? There is no action. Still the "male gaze" generates discomfort or feeling of insult. Why? Because subtle gestures also make an impact. *I used this just as an example to substantiate my point*

Thoughts lead to talks and speculations about a person if people come to know about his/her thoughts. And action (if wrong) results in punishment and a more definitive comment on person's character/mentality.

Ganga's story is a sign of modernity given her emancipation and admission of her desire for the man who helped her. But what is modern or acceptable about imagining or pining about a man who is engaged to someone else?

For Jagya also, it wouldn't be questionable if he had thought about Ganga earlier. But imagining her after being engaged to someone else was odd.

Then these claims to make a sacrifice or telling others that you're not interested in anyone else etc. are hypocrisy.

Like Ganga was teary eyed when Shekhars brought proposal for Jagya. But tried (in vain) to sound unaffected when Sanchi questioned her.

My point has always been that you should stick by your view na? Why think some other way? But try to hide it and behave like you don't know?

There was no need for Ganga to act so shocked when Jagya was confessing love to her (even when they were alone after all had left) or when Lal Singh told her about her own behaviour towards Jagya. You always loved him. Accept it! At least when both of you are alone and the one who you loved is confessing his feelings for you! There's no need to feign shock or denial then.

Originally posted by: Skepblun

I did not have problems in this sindoor episode.

But I definitely wondered about her attachment towards Doctor sa without divorcing Ratan Singh, her claiming to live for Mannu but readiness to give him up to Rat only so that Doctor & his family could be saved and her thinking about Jagya after he was engaged to Sanchi.

When Sanchi was pursuing Jagya, he wasn't bound to anyone. Still we criticise her for falling for bhabhi's ex etc.

I'd have had problems with Sanchi if Jagya was already engaged or married to someone else, and she would have been thinking about him.

Similarly, though I know it is not easy to get over past, still it was an issue when Jagya had memories of Anandi after marrying Gauri (even randomly, not just after fights with Gauri) and when Anandi used to remember him or dream about him despite knowing he was now married to someone else. Or Gauri, to marry Jagya even after knowing his truth of marriage with Anandi.

Subconsciously people think anything. But there are reasons why it's all subconscious and never in conscious mind. There's something called propriety, some differentiation between right or wrong.

Even that Daddu is criticised for the way he talks to and about Kalyani ji, he's suspected to have "love" for her, he's made fun of, acceptability of his behaviour is questioned. Though both Daddu and Kalyani are single and can marry if they want, but still their being samdhis makes people either criticise Daddu or feel odd at him or joke about him.

This is a serial. Here thoughts of characters are projected onscreen vividly and those sequences are like action only for viewers. Hence they are debated.

Also I don't buy the logic that only action should be punished and thoughts should be excused. First of all, only discussions happen here. No one's punishing anyone. Secondly, thoughts, subtle signs in behaviour and gaze also matter. Otherwise, why do women feel uncomfortable when men gaze at them at public places? There is no action. Still the "male gaze" generates discomfort or feeling of insult. Why? Because subtle gestures also make an impact. *I used this just as an example to substantiate my point*

Thoughts lead to talks and speculations about a person if people come to know about his/her thoughts. And action (if wrong) results in punishment and a more definitive comment on person's character/mentality.

Ganga's story is a sign of modernity given her emancipation and admission of her desire for the man who helped her. But what is modern or acceptable about imagining or pining about a man who is engaged to someone else?

For Jagya also, it wouldn't be questionable if he had thought about Ganga earlier. But imagining her after being engaged to someone else was odd.

Then these claims to make a sacrifice or telling others that you're not interested in anyone else etc. are hypocrisy.

Like Ganga was teary eyed when Shekhars brought proposal for Jagya. But tried (in vain) to sound unaffected when Sanchi questioned her.

My point has always been that you should stick by your view na? Why think some other way? But try to hide it and behave like you don't know?

There was no need for Ganga to act so shocked when Jagya was confessing love to her (even when they were alone after all had left) or when Lal Singh told her about her own behaviour towards Jagya. You always loved him. Accept it! At least when both of you are alone and the one who you loved is confessing his feelings for you! There's no need to feign shock or denial then.

We dont have control over our thoughts. But our actions can be controlled. And thoughts always dont result in actions.

amazing post!!

Originally posted by: Skepblun

I did not have problems in this sindoor episode.

But I definitely wondered about her attachment towards Doctor sa without divorcing Ratan Singh, her claiming to live for Mannu but readiness to give him up to Rat only so that Doctor & his family could be saved and her thinking about Jagya after he was engaged to Sanchi.

When Sanchi was pursuing Jagya, he wasn't bound to anyone. Still we criticise her for falling for bhabhi's ex etc.

I'd have had problems with Sanchi if Jagya was already engaged or married to someone else, and she would have been thinking about him.

Similarly, though I know it is not easy to get over past, still it was an issue when Jagya had memories of Anandi after marrying Gauri (even randomly, not just after fights with Gauri) and when Anandi used to remember him or dream about him despite knowing he was now married to someone else. Or Gauri, to marry Jagya even after knowing his truth of marriage with Anandi.

Subconsciously people think anything. But there are reasons why it's all subconscious and never in conscious mind. There's something called propriety, some differentiation between right or wrong.

Even that Daddu is criticised for the way he talks to and about Kalyani ji, he's suspected to have "love" for her, he's made fun of, acceptability of his behaviour is questioned. Though both Daddu and Kalyani are single and can marry if they want, but still their being samdhis makes people either criticise Daddu or feel odd at him or joke about him.

This is a serial. Here thoughts of characters are projected onscreen vividly and those sequences are like action only for viewers. Hence they are debated.

Also I don't buy the logic that only action should be punished and thoughts should be excused. First of all, only discussions happen here. No one's punishing anyone. Secondly, thoughts, subtle signs in behaviour and gaze also matter. Otherwise, why do women feel uncomfortable when men gaze at them at public places? There is no action. Still the "male gaze" generates discomfort or feeling of insult. Why? Because subtle gestures also make an impact. *I used this just as an example to substantiate my point*

Thoughts lead to talks and speculations about a person if people come to know about his/her thoughts. And action (if wrong) results in punishment and a more definitive comment on person's character/mentality.

Ganga's story is a sign of modernity given her emancipation and admission of her desire for the man who helped her. But what is modern or acceptable about imagining or pining about a man who is engaged to someone else?

For Jagya also, it wouldn't be questionable if he had thought about Ganga earlier. But imagining her after being engaged to someone else was odd.

Then these claims to make a sacrifice or telling others that you're not interested in anyone else etc. are hypocrisy.

Like Ganga was teary eyed when Shekhars brought proposal for Jagya. But tried (in vain) to sound unaffected when Sanchi questioned her.

My point has always been that you should stick by your view na? Why think some other way? But try to hide it and behave like you don't know?

There was no need for Ganga to act so shocked when Jagya was confessing love to her (even when they were alone after all had left) or when Lal Singh told her about her own behaviour towards Jagya. You always loved him. Accept it! At least when both of you are alone and the one who you loved is confessing his feelings for you! There's no need to feign shock or denial then.