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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: lashy

But, Sara that Jalal did out of HIS OWN WILL...in fact, he nearly considered himself a follower of a new religion that took points/principles from various religions ...therefore, HIS SENTIMENTS were not affected by doing phere and Arthi!

MA is a staunch Muslim...she doesn't believe in all this...therefore its a completely different thing he is unhappy about...plus, he has already been very unhappy with Jodha lately!



you are absolutely right lashy..that he did all on his own will and MA doesnt want at all n more of this hate jodha n all other hindus n their religion..so she is making issu...
but what i cant undersytand that CVs are really showing that all the other people feeling bad according to religion are right on their own...


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose


this is 16th century di..

arey waise bhi maham usse "dudh ka karz" yaad dilati rahti hai.. aj to jodha ke liye unke aaknhon me aansu bhi aa gaya.. I fear ab to Jalal ke upar "pani ka karz" bhi aayega..😆😆😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Star_girl


Of course. That was another significant point. By throwing color on Maham, Jodha, unknowingly, went against the basic point Jalal made. Interestingly, this, later, will be an important point in Akbar's religious worldview. Where he clearly mentions, that no one will be or shall be forced, or influenced to join another religion. You want to take part in a festival, go ahead. You don't, you won't. Jalal's reaction was extreme, to justify Jodha's suicide that is to come, but his logic was not exactly wrong. But dude. These two needs a basic lesson in communication. 😆



i think knowing unknowingly jodha played an important part in changing the way Akbar thought or had views about religion, akbar never respected women except a few and i believe jodha was one of them who held an important place in his life, and not to forget that she gave birth to jahangir who was the next emperor!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Sara di.. Read this

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Yes, of course, Ela, and I myself have noted that what he did during the dature ka ark affair was far worse. But if she is going to behave as badly as he did, there is no difference between them.

I also wrote very clearly that it was not about her being nasty to Jalal - It is about her demeaning herself. I set great store by grace in public, and the Rajput queens were celebrated for being like that; Just watch Maharani Jaiwantibai of Mewar in Maharana Pratap' she was the same from the time she got married as a teenager. Jodha has always been like a loose cannon, with no sense, and no sense of responsibility either,as when she burnt the wedding dress.

I did not at all like the way Jodha behaved yesterday, trying to talk down to him and humiliate him, and I did not at all like the way she behaved today, like a bheegi billi, apologising to all and sundry and scared stiff. I expected her to be calm and state her position that it was just an accident, but even before anyone says anything to her, she looks terrified.

Any husband with absolute power, Ela, cannot, by definition, be jailed, for there would be no power above him to do that. I used that term very deliberately. There are very few such left, except perhaps the Saudi princes or Latin American dictators, and I cannot imagine one such apologising to his wife, no matter what he had done to her.

The interesting and relevant point is that her brothers really feel no rancour towards Jalal. She does, and so she should just go home to Amer and be done with this life in Agra. She cannot expect anything more from Jalal, he is not going to parade in sackcloth and ashes to please her. That is the way it is, and she has to work within that framework.

Today, he made it clear that, in line with what I have written here and contrary to interpretations elsewhere, he had no intention of trying to retain her in Agra. When he said aakhri kwahish,it meant just that. She does touch him somewhere, but he is not a lovelorn Majnu to sigh after her; he is an emperor.

Freedom to practice her religion did not mean celebrating all her festivals in public in the Agra palace. It meant doing puja in the privacy of her rooms.. You have to remember that this was a major concession by the emperor, and the mullahs must have criticised it vocally.So yes, she needed his permission for that, and Hamida Banu too does not say, contrary to what she said about Jodha's temple visits, that his permission is not required.

Once Jodha brought her celebrations out into the open, clashes and complaints were bound to surface, and of course it all blew up with her colliding with Mahaam Anga. I was surprised to see Jodha immediately fold up like a pack of cards. I would have expected her to stand up for herself somewhat more.

Shyamala

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Posted: 12 years ago
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thanks alakh...exactly which thread is this...today i m very busy...inlaws are here...son is not doing well, and husband going out of town...

so miss so many good posts🤔
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: smile.sara

thanks alakh...exactly which thread is this...today i m very busy...inlaws are here...son is not doing well, and husband going out of town...

so miss so many good posts🤔

appke bete ko kya hua hai sara di??
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: smile.sara

thanks alakh...exactly which thread is this...today i m very busy...inlaws are here...son is not doing well, and husband going out of town...

so miss so many good posts🤔


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Wish your son a speedy recovery...😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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ekta ka shatir adha dimag😆😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: smile.sara



acha ..main concept of islam is ..oneness of G0d... there is no god but Allha...

so peras aroud agni is more against religion than this whole foolish fiasco...
yah khud tau phera le kar agae...aur har waqt aarti or ilak lagate rahte hain...😕

being a muslim i didnt find any uproar in this whole matter... CVs are manipulating...

as they are showing ... mughals are right there... but actually there is not such thing in relifgion.



Originally posted by: smile.sara



believe me what Akbar did..is a real isam

geo aur geene dau...

there is no pressure in religion... atleast this what i believe n do...

😳



Kindly avoid commenting on any religious facts or issues as its very a sensitive subject and Jodha Akbar being a fictional show claims no factual reference to religion or customs.All members are warned that any further comments or discussions involving religion will not be allowed.

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