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Posted: 19 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: mistletoe

That is the problem with all Hindi Soaps, there is nothing called 'Character Development!'

The simple, loving and warm Bani will become an overnight Business Whiz!

The best friend cum loyalist Tarun will turn into a Wife-stealing, Jobless Lawyer without any explanations!

The almost son like Pushkar will forget all his gratitude and take off with his Mentor's bride on the day of their Wedding!

Blah Blah, I can go on for ages here! Infact, the only character who has shown a gradual development has surprisingly been Saahil...We have seen how he has degenerated from being a meek, mama's boy into a loser of the first category and now to a potential murderer! Even Ranveer's transformation from Sexy Sanyasi to Crying Majnu has left me flabbergasted!

Amongst the main characters, it was JW who had shown a gradual change....When he fell in hatred and then in love with Bani.....That part was one of the most beautiful phase of KS! Done to perfection!

Rest has all been completely illogical and haphazard!

Pia as a character had maximum potential and could have gained as much popularity as Jai, Bani & (Old) Jigyasa, if only they had taken a talented and sorry to say, but a much more prettier face as Pia! Simply because, Pia's character is one who had to look extremely attractive, the prettiest amongst all.....But RC falls short in the looks department! And the less said about her acting prowress, the better!🤢

Not to argue with you 😊 and not taking offence ...am gonna say this 😳so please dont mind...

Say if pia was a more likeable character would that not make her slightly more liked...yeh jygassa was evil but if you think about it with pias character they crossed a line that was totally unacceptable personally i havc not seen done by other evil characters.

Roshni pretty personally i dont know...i do know shes got that western pretty look about her 😕 that alot !! of girls look like in the uk 😆but she is a model so obviously something about her that makes her pretty ....Acting she may not be the best in the department but at the end of the day evils harder to play i would say..the fact pias so hated is a job well done 👏

Pias character i have always said like you mentioned has had the maximum growth potentiol but was butchered...not by the actors but the story...she could have been a fun character ! but nope they turned her into the worst vamp ever unlike none i seen...

whats her motive?

What person would do that to their own real sister?

all these were never addressed most vamps have motive...also tend to be unrealated...jygassa was but we still saw that she cared about jai.

This is the character that had potential now unredemable...to me the other characters dont need redeming ...maybe raashi how stupid they made her

Can you guess which actress from Teledom could have portaryed Pia to perfection?

I would have personally liked to see the girl who plays Sindhoora in BMTD, she is not only attractive, but a very good actress too....and does a fab job as a negative character! (Only thing, she would have looked too old to play Bani's younger sister, but then so does RC!)

Cheers,

MT

Edited by Misangelic - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Mis, cant support you in this. RC cant act for anything under the sun and we hate P's character cos its plain bad and stupid and selfish, to top everything. Also RC being pretty, well I will reserve my comments.
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Posted: 19 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: sangitadas



Mis, cant support you in this. RC cant act for anything under the sun and we hate P's character cos its plain bad and stupid and selfish, to top everything. Also RC being pretty, well I will reserve my comments.

Nian,

Agree with Pri, Meg, Sangs on this. Roshni cant act at all dear and its not her dressing or character Pia that we hate but her acting. Pia was supposed to be a grey character from the beginning but becasue of the inept acting skill or no skill what so ever Pia has become the most hated.

No kuddos for her acting at all but becasue of no acting skill what so ever and her ever so same srunched up facial expression for each and every emotion.

Open your mind and watch and you will understand why 99 % of the forum does not like Pia.

Love

Krishna

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Nina,

As far as RC's looks is considered, all I can say is that beauty lies in the eye of the beholder, so I can't comment. But when u say that Pia is hated so RC is a good actress I think that's not quite correct. Pia was never meant to have been hated in the first place, distrusted, muddle-headed maybe but never an outright villainess and it is possibly cos of RC's inability to act a more complex role that she had to be cast as a villain.

Rgds,

Pri
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: majumdar

Nina,

As far as RC's looks is considered, all I can say is that beauty lies in the eye of the beholder, so I can't comment. But when u say that Pia is hated so RC is a good actress I think that's not quite correct. Pia was never meant to have been hated in the first place, distrusted, muddle-headed maybe but never an outright villainess and it is possibly cos of RC's inability to act a more complex role that she had to be cast as a villain.

Rgds,

Pri



I agree with you pri. I think Pia's character is not meant to be hated like jigs or like any other villainous characters. After the ONS when Pia thought she and Jai can be happy but that happiness was shortlived with Bani returning to Jai. At that point, Pia character is supposed to gain sympathy from the audience because she is hurt and kind of guilty for ONS. But RC just failed there and we couldn't see the ONS from Pia's perspective at all.

If RC was able to emote the conflict between her love for Jai and Bani, all her determination to get Jai would have been at least acceptable but again RC failed there.

If at all RC could act, i think creatives would have resorted to redeeming Jai in a different way rather than showing that Pia drugging Jai.
Edited by Je_aime - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Hai god what have i come back to from the lecture if you do not like her thats fine 😊 i dont want to argue about it to be honest and cannot be bothered to ....

Kubare 😃 i am open minded...just because i dont agree with everyone and want to slate rc does not mean am not ....to be honest i stand by what i say if given the chance she would prove what shes about..if 99% of the people hate her then go ahead...i dont like pia because shes been butchered to that point...rc i still support i never said shes a great actress but she does bring something to pia...how can you say shes not proved she can act complex emotion...shes never had the chance ...before she had the chance her character was butchered...if she had a decent storyline and still messed it up then i would say yes she cannot...

Mauj..she was always meant to be a villian, the ons was meant to happen...

I have never agreed about jai and hate his character more no offence to ram for the exact reason that everything focuses on him...why was he redemed at cost of pia...i forgot the mahann jai can get someone pregnant and still come out looking great...whatever the circumstances because the audience love him and bani rani together
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Posted: 19 years ago
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I cant say about the others but pias character is not butchered she was like that in the begning aswell always thought about her self and her intrests 😡
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: mistletoe

Excellent post Megs,

Will add some more details later on, but just wanted to mention that they could have taken some pointers out of Kabhi Alvida Na Kehna!

Kiron Kher's character was a splendid one in the movie, one of its highlights! The way she is shown to side with her daughter-in-law, Preity when SRK confesses on an ONS with Rani was so well portrayed!

And yet, when SRK has to leave the House, she breaks down crying and says that even though she knows her son has committed a mistake and she supports her Daughter-in-law, she is also a Mother and just cannot abandon her son from her Heart!

Massi has been butchered pretty brutally for sure! 😕 And ironically, it is her coldness towards Jai that has made us negative towards Bani in this issue! If only Massi had taken a neutral stand, the way she did during the PR Fiasco, things could have been so much better. But now, our Lady had to do her Shraadh Stuff!😡

Am not surprised about Pia, because, her character always had more of black shades than white and it was pretty clear in the beginning of the show, that Pia would be the Black Sheep of KS!

Cheers,

MT

Kiron Kher did such a fantastic job in the movie. The sad thing in KS is that Seema Bhargav has the acting chops to carryout whatever they give her. If they had given it more thought the Jai Massi interaction after the ONS reveal could have been brilliant. Kiron Kher's reaction was so natural and I felt she provided the right support for both son and bahu. Even now massi character has come chance if they get her with the program of apologizing and than trying to bridge the gap between the two. She is one of the few who can. They are wasting such great opportunities between RK and SB. I still remember the scene between them after bani looses the first baby. It was brilliant. Hope the creatives hear us.

meghna

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: Misangelic

Hai god what have i come back to from the lecture if you do not like her thats fine 😊 i dont want to argue about it to be honest and cannot be bothered to ....

Kubare 😃 i am open minded...just because i dont agree with everyone and want to slate rc does not mean am not ....to be honest i stand by what i say if given the chance she would prove what shes about..if 99% of the people hate her then go ahead...i dont like pia because shes been butchered to that point...rc i still support i never said shes a great actress but she does bring something to pia...how can you say shes not proved she can act complex emotion...shes never had the chance ...before she had the chance her character was butchered...if she had a decent storyline and still messed it up then i would say yes she cannot...

Mauj..she was always meant to be a villian, the ons was meant to happen...

I have never agreed about jai and hate his character more no offence to ram for the exact reason that everything focuses on him...why was he redemed at cost of pia...i forgot the mahann jai can get someone pregnant and still come out looking great...whatever the circumstances because the audience love him and bani rani together

Nina,

RC is not at all bad looking, infact she looks much prettier and attractive in real life (As she looked in JIKNH) than in KS! I somehow feel that the Producers have given quite a raw deal to RC / Pia in terms of her overall appearance! One she has a terrible wadrobe!🤢 Her clothes are so down market, not at all the kind that a character like Pia would wear! Secondly, her make-up is done in a way that she looks very dull, I mean she was positively glowing in JIKNH! But our point here is that while there is nothing wrong with RC (In the looks department) she just fails short of portraying Pia's charater, who is supposed to be a stunner and an absolutely gorgeous creature!

Be honest and tell us Nina, do you really think that RC while portraying Pia looks like the kind of girl who would have a Business Tycoon and a Young Heart-throb falling all over her?😕 That is why we find her character to be so unrealistic!

Regarding her acting, seriously, I have tried so many times to say something positive about her in the updates, but the girl really fails me! There have been some scenes where she has shown sparks, but overall, RC totally, totally fails to get the nuances of Pia!

Cheers,

MT

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Posted: 19 years ago
#30

Originally posted by: mistletoe

Nina,

RC is not at all bad looking, infact she looks much prettier and attractive in real life (As she looked in JIKNH) than in KS! I somehow feel that the Producers have given quite a raw deal to RC / Pia in terms of her overall appearance! Thanks for telling me that 😳 i too think that as well the clothes definetly do not suit her some photos i have seen one in particular in a yellow t shenlooks nice One she has a terrible wadrobe!🤢 Her clothes are so down market, not at all the kind that a character like Pia would wear! Secondly, her make-up is done in a way that she looks very dull, I mean she was positively glowing in JIKNH! But our point here is that while there is nothing wrong with RC (In the looks department) she just fails short of portraying Pia's charater, who is supposed to be a stunner and an absolutely gorgeous creature! hmm 🤔 put like that it makes sense...but i think that potrayal is down to the costumes etc...

Be honest and tell us Nina, do you really think that RC while portraying Pia looks like the kind of girl who would have a Business Tycoon and a Young Heart-throb falling all over her?😕 That is why we find her character to be so unrealistic!

Well to be honest 😆 i dont see jai has the type of guy to have two girls falling over him though rams a different matter and is cute 😳..back to roshni from what i have seen pia/roshnis look is the type of girls guys do go for honestly from what i see at uni though i dont see why 😕...Jai i think fell for pia because she was different and exciting also a brain though she never used it for good ...bani types would never get a second look being honestwhich is pathetic really....

Regarding her acting, seriously, I have tried so many times to say something positive about her in the updates, but the girl really fails me! There have been some scenes where she has shown sparks, but overall, RC totally, totally fails to get the nuances of Pia!

Yeh rekhaji i know you have 😊i do not know if i ever told you this i do remeber when you defended her 😛...roshni as pia i think shes done ok job 😕maybe i am missing something at times i dont like her acting but most of time its ok i liked her especially near the start

Cheers,

MT

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