Today what jalal did is unforgettable.... - Page 2

Originally posted by: SonyaBlade

In the case of Richard the Lionheart, he imprisoned his wife because she went against him in support of her son to overthrow him for the throne. In her case, he locked her away, but it was definitely a Royal prison...she essentially had her own home and servants and everything that a queen could want for except her freedom...I'm sure many in her situation would consider it a life of luxury regardless whether she was allowed to move around freely or not.

I just point this out because we can use examples from every which way to say that Jalal is acting this way or that way...regardless of the matter, taking his sword and essentially executing her on the spot for her admission goes AGAINST everything he has said. He is the one that has said that the trial system of the mughal empire is beyond reproach and everyone is treated to a fair trial...therefore killing her right away does not HONOR those sentiments and as ruqaiya said (and for once I agree with her) it doesn't befit an emperor to act in that way.

i'm not speaking about the extremism of the action...you are absolutely right that his actions are of an emperor and his duty lies to the kingdom, however when he has given her ten days...even with the confession it should have been dealt with the next day.

But, an emperor was allowed to overrule even his own decree and couldn't even be questioned if he did...just like he alone was allowed to pardon the guilty...also, its pretty obvious that all his rules seem to fly out the window when it comes to Jodha since he is obsessed about NOT wanting to be attracted to her (when in reality he is!) Besides, knowing his temper she was trying to instigate him so that she could finish this torture once and for all...

Btw, please don't misunderstand me 😳 I am not making excuses for his behaviour here...obviously, NONE of this can hold true today (at least not in the developed world!) Just that it was a different time altogether...and we possibly shouldn't view these characters as black and white...

So essentially the topic creator is correct, Jalal does not love Jodha, has never had any affection for her, because just like he saw the love and purity that she displayed in her poem...if he had even a slight understanding of his Jodha he would have realized right away that Jodha's confession was said so quickly, so abruptly and so matter of fact...that it in no way resembled how she acts...and as soon as she asked for him to spare her brothers...that should have been the red flag for Jalal that Jodha is doing this for some self righteous reason, and not because she is actually guilty.

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Of that, I have no doubt..Jalal hasn't understood Jodha (or what she is made of) yet!😳

@lashy ... such valid argument

@sonyablade , practical answers at the best...

But i guess we r not talking about brains here... jalal seems to have shut all door to his at least as far as this fiasco is concerned...

I guess , it were emotions at their best ... jodha infuriated, violated n hurt wanted a conclusive end , so she does instigate jalal at doing wat he is best at ...cold blooded anger

Jalal poisoned to hear the confession and the subconscious thoughts of her being the trust breaker coming true , actions upon his emotion ...tht moment was pure rage ( both reasons well known to us)

but at the same time ... it makes one thing very clear tht jalal DOES NOT LOVE jodha , not now ... the only pull he feels is the OCD he has with jodha ...

But, seeing tht he is good with ponder upon and after incident thinking ...jodha's words would hit him like a blow ...like the other day when she said tht she wanted nothing from him and there is nothing tht he could give her ...

jalal is faced with a weapon both emotional n hurtful sob ... he would not be able to forget wat jodha said today ... now he would have to start thinking seriously about this marriage ...( this is not a joke anymore ;at least not for jodha)

Kashi

Originally posted by: lashy

For your statement, I can only give one answer - today for that instant Jalal showed that he was an emperor...and thats the harsh reality!😊

This is all fictional no doubt...however, if Jodha was indeed guilty, that would have been his verdict -> execution (I realize that the amount of investigation that went into accusing Jodha was minimal and that Jalal was being very strong-headed about it, BUT and a big BUT, in yesteryears it was not really a hard task framing and having someone else executed for it - even a royal!) With the amont of clues presented against Jodha, I can imagine many-a-royal would have met a sorry fate!😒

Besides, a king's prime duty lies with the welfare of his kingdom... any king who honours that code remains successful...if a King gets embroiled in matters of the family he is bound to start losing his hold on the kingdom - even if he is a good king!

For Jalal, the heir was very important for furthering his legacy and a purposeful murder of it was beyond comprehension...

I agree that Jalal was being blinded by rage and not taking Hameeda's suggestions into consideration - but my argument is that many kings who're considered 'Great' today might have not even given their family such chances!

History has shown that if a queen had been suspected of a crime (even if actually innocent)...she'd have been locked in a special dungeon and not allowed to meet anyone till the king's courtiers/ministers investigated the case...At least Jodha did receive some form of respite in her own room and she was able to meet with her brothers...

Your analysis is on the dot. One should never forget while watching a historical show that those times were different. There were lots of conspiracies being made against each other. Watch Maharana Pratap and you will know that one queen will act against another just to make her son a king. Maharana Pratap was also a victim despite being an elder son and a valiant warrier.

akbar was not a romantic person, he had so many women, he used most of them like a commodity, but there were very few that laid lasting impression on him, i believe jodha will be one of them and that is when there will be change of hearts..till then we will have to enjoy their roller coaster love hate joy ride!

jalal did not think that Jodha 's brothers has aved his life.

TM i agree with you totally...Even in olden times thourough investigation was carried on ,or noone would have been left alive...
No one was ever proven guilty on such flimsy evidences and no one was aquited so easily on the small evidence provided by cheif queen...

And he will not burn MA either when she is caught...She will get away with it just as she got away with killing BK.


As for Jodha, my only advice to her is that she starts showing some selfrespect in true sense instead of speaking to him in pleading tones...Afterall she is fearless as she claims.

Every coin has two sides. We are very well aware that in future a love story is gonna develop between them and keeping that in the back of our mind u have asked how will she ever be able to love him!

But if we keep that thought away...why will Jalal or Jodha ever care about the future. In their present scenario Jodha feels nothing for Jalal and Jalal definitely cares more for his murdered to-be-born child than Jodha. He might be mesmerized with her, but we cant expect him having eyelocks with her when she has stated that she killed the child. He pulled the sword on her as an action to the punishment any person who would come forward and claim to hv done the act.

The fact that after Ruqs telling him abt Salima he decides to go to Jodha rather than Salima shows how guilty he was and wanted an answer to Jodhas such action.

Keeping aside the love story that will develop, there was nothing wrong in Jalal almost killing Jodha today. He lived upto his character!

Originally posted by: tara_211

Every coin has two sides. We are very well aware that in future a love story is gonna develop between them and keeping that in the back of our mind u have asked how will she ever be able to love him!

But if we keep that thought away...why will Jalal or Jodha ever care about the future. In their present scenario Jodha feels nothing for Jalal and Jalal definitely cares more for his murdered to-be-born child than Jodha. He might be mesmerized with her, but we cant expect him having eyelocks with her when she has stated that she killed the child. He pulled the sword on her as an action to the punishment any person who would come forward and claim to hv done the act.

The fact that after Ruqs telling him abt Salima he decides to go to Jodha rather than Salima shows how guilty he was and wanted an answer to Jodhas such action.

Keeping aside the love story that will develop, there was nothing wrong in Jalal almost killing Jodha today. He lived upto his character!

Originally posted by: tara_211

Every coin has two sides. We are very well aware that in future a love story is gonna develop between them and keeping that in the back of our mind u have asked how will she ever be able to love him!

But if we keep that thought away...why will Jalal or Jodha ever care about the future. In their present scenario Jodha feels nothing for Jalal and Jalal definitely cares more for his murdered to-be-born child than Jodha. He might be mesmerized with her, but we cant expect him having eyelocks with her when she has stated that she killed the child. He pulled the sword on her as an action to the punishment any person who would come forward and claim to hv done the act.

The fact that after Ruqs telling him abt Salima he decides to go to Jodha rather than Salima shows how guilty he was and wanted an answer to Jodhas such action.

Keeping aside the love story that will develop, there was nothing wrong in Jalal almost killing Jodha today. He lived upto his character!

@lashy I have not seen the series you have mentioned...as I watch little TV...but I do know little bit of Indian history...When I mentioned that evidances against Jodha were weak , it was becoz The kesar which came from Amer was pure...agin Jodha had no idea that Jalaal will ask her to feed Ruku...again even if she banked upon the fact that Ruku will eat it later, there was no gaurantee of it...etc etc..