What We JB Fans Can Live With-Pia Baby?

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Posted: 19 years ago
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The creatives have taken a lot of steps to fulfill our wishes. The made a major miscalculation with the ONS and trying a triangle which backfired miserably. To retract the mistake and stem the falling TRP's they have butchered Pia's character. Now we see them dilly dallying trying to figure out where to take this story next. Some of the major questions I think they are trying to gage is

1. Should Pia's baby be JW's?

2. Should Bani come back unconditionally in JW's life?

3. How would JB deal with Pia's baby in the event that it is JW's?

While they have redemeed JW to the "Ram" status by a dreadfull storyline of date rape one thing left to be resolved is the parentage issue. I feel that if they remain true to the JW character (ONS was totally out of it and they saw the after effects) than showing him as the father will totally make him a guilt ridden fugure who will never be able to accept the happiness in his life despite no fault of his own. He is not a man to be able to live with the fact that he fathered two children at the same time from two sisters. The very thought of it will haunt him forever. It will also leave a very bad feeling with the viewers. ONS has caused the loss of a lot of viewership and if KS wants to get back its old magic it needs PIa out of the JB equation.

I understand that from the storytelling perspective a Pia baby with JW will have a lot of mileage but I feel like the ONS storyline the viewers will be disgusted with it. KS has broken all norms in what the viewers will put up with and the creatives need to understand that we love the purity of the JB relationship and Pia in anyway in it is just not acceptable. There are many ways to bring Pia into the storyline in the future. Make her the vamp who is after their blood and does a million diff things to mess them up but the love and the scared marriage relationship between JB should remain untarnished.

I realize Pia baby is not due to any fault of JW but his character will never recover if the baby is shown to be his. The whole sceneario and timing brings a huge level of disgust. The creatives can tell the story a million different way without taking this angle. JB can even raise the baby so long as it is shown that it is pushkar's.

The last few episodes they are also confusing us with what bani feels. On thursday they showed that she is apologetic and on friday they showed that she is cold and indifferent. I think Bani has always been shown as a person who can forgive and she love JW to the end of the earth. JW right now is a broken man and needs bani's unconditional love to bring him back to the land of the living.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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The only reason for some viewers like me to stick around with KS inspite of the trash shown the past few months was the wait for the complete redemption of JW and consequent rediscovery of J-B's love for each other.

What has been shown this past week is just a temporary respite and infact pretty ominous for the future of KS. I would have liked this J-P-B track to end FOREVER and the story move on to other avenues. But if R*'s child is indeed JW's, she is always going to be there between J-B irrespective of what JW feels for her or not. How the child was conceived is immaterial. The guilt and shame of having fathered 2 kids with 2 sisters would be too much for a man like JW and his character would be tainted for all times to come.

I would have much rather preferred a leap, complete redemption of JW, banishment of R* from J-B's life forever and a process of rediscovery for J-B. This redemption is too lame for me. The future of KS is now going to be paternity suits, custody battles, fighting for the child's claim and JW again torn between the 2 kids. It has become another masala potboiler from the classy love story it was.


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Posted: 19 years ago
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Meghna
Thank You for making this post.
Absolutely No R 🤢 baby with JW. If they show JP baby, then I'll quit this
show. I have been hanging onto it for the JW redemption.
The poor man has already endured
so much, he'll never be able to face himself or enjoy any sort of
happiness from anyone. And the JP baby will forever taint the purity of JB
relationship. I am hooked on the purity of the JB love.
Jai Walia should be Fully, Completely and Absolutely Redeemed.

AP
Edited by aperture - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Hey megs
Nice questions and I fully agree with the point that Pia in JB angle will bring the TRP further down.

Jai Walia will never be fully redeemed till it is shown that the baby Pia is carrying, is not his. We may accept it but most of the viewers will not and it stands the chances of being backfired .

As to why Bani is indifferent I cannot understand the entire situation but I guess she somehow wants Jai to make the first move and even after everything she will not be able to ignore the fact that Pia is carrying his child.If she tries to close in on to him, this fact will just bang in to her thoughts.

It will take up a lot of time before JB gets back on track. I am not saying we will not have JDD moments but they will not, infact cannot, act normally. It will be completely wrong on our part to expect JB to react like nothing happened and everything is back to normal so early. So many questions have been left unanswered. I stand by the thing that they still do not shre the same space(bedroom) yet in that house and it is good.

Till yesterday I was thinking that Jai has not displayed his happiness on B's pregnancy the way we expected but I guess I was wrong .He is excited cause his dream has finally taken a foundation and is beginning to shape up, why will he not be happy but its just that he is not on absolutely normal terms with Bani just like a normal couple. But I guess the preganacy will definitely break the ice between them unless Bani decides to leave, for reasons known to her and Ekta Mayii only.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: capricorn2006

The only reason for some viewers like me to stick around with KS inspite of the trash shown the past few months was the wait for the complete redemption of JW and consequent rediscovery of J-B's love for each other.

What has been shown this past week is just a temporary respite and infact pretty ominous for the future of KS. I would have liked this J-P-B track to end FOREVER and the story move on to other avenues. But if R*'s child is indeed JW's, she is always going to be there between J-B irrespective of what JW feels for her or not. How the child was conceived is immaterial. The guilt and shame of having fathered 2 kids with 2 sisters would be too much for a man like JW and his character would be tainted for all times to come.

I would have much rather preferred a leap, complete redemption of JW, banishment of R* from J-B's life forever and a process of rediscovery for J-B. This redemption is too lame for me. The future of KS is now going to be paternity suits, custody battles, fighting for the child's claim and JW again torn between the 2 kids. It has become another masala potboiler from the classy love story it was.

That is my feeling too. I think the creatives feel now that viewers know that ONS was due to no fault of JW we viewers will be ok with whatever trash they show. They have already butchered the relationship between sisters now they are going to create a mess between parents, husband and wife etc. How can a man no matter what the situation not feel gross when he is faced with the fact that he has fathered two children months apart from sisters. How does a father look into the eyes of a child and not see it's mother having drugged him to conceive the child? How does a sister forget that her husband has a child with her sister who she has raised like a mother? The whole scenario is just too gross.

I feel the best solution would be to have a paternity claim right away and it to be proved that the child is not JW's. Any future storyline containing JW"s child with Pia will just cause viewers to stop watching the show like they did with the ONS. Like you said KS is not a potboiler and the TRP"s tank whevnever they go that route and bounces back when it is JB romance. A clean slate romance for JB to recover from all the crap from the last 4-5 months is just what is needed to get the magic back into the show.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: aperture

👏 👏 👏
Meghna
Thank You for making this post.
Absolutely No R 🤢 baby with JW. If they show JP baby, then I'll quit this
show. I have been hanging onto it for the JW redemption.
The poor man has already endured
so much, he'll never be able to face himself or enjoy any sort of
happiness from anyone. And the JP baby will forever taint the purity of JB relationship. I am hooked on the purity of the JB love.
Jai Walia should be Fully, Completely and Absolutely Redeemed.

AP

My point exactly. KS magic was the purity of JB love and having Pia in the frame will doom it. They can bring Pia into the show a million diff ways like having her marry sahil so long as she is not in the JB relationship.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Couldn't agree more Meg. All said and done, the fact still remains that Pia and Bani are sisters and the disgust level of two sisters being pregnant by the same man is too high.
What I don't understand is why didn't the creatives continue with the leap. By showing, Ekta would have been able to take KS back to its' golden days. With the leap, the creatives would have been able to:
1) Re-create the love-hate relationship between Jai-Bani
2) Could have shown full redemption of JW
3) Introduce the J-B-T triangle
4) Show the split between three sisters

By looking at the current state of affairs in KS, I think Ekta has decided in showing that Pia's baby is indeed JW's .

Emma
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: mahimn

Hey megs
Nice questions and I fully agree with the point that Pia in JB angle will bring the TRP further down.

Jai Walia will never be fully redeemed till it is shown that the baby Pia is carrying, is not his. We may accept it but most of the viewers will not and it stands the chances of being backfired .

As to why Bani is indifferent I cannot understand the entire situation but I guess she somehow wants Jai to make the first move and even after everything she will not be able to ignore the fact that Pia is carrying his child.If she tries to close in on to him, this fact will just bang in to her thoughts.

It will take up a lot of time before JB gets back on track. I am not saying we will not have JDD moments but they will not, infact cannot, act normally. It will be completely wrong on our part to expect JB to react like nothing happened and everything is back to normal so early. So many questions have been left unanswered. I stand by the thing that they still do not shre the same space(bedroom) yet in that house and it is good.

Till yesterday I was thinking that Jai has not displayed his happiness on B's pregnancy the way we expected but I guess I was wrong .He is excited cause his dream has finally taken a foundation and is beginning to shape up, why will he not be happy but its just that he is not on absolutely normal terms with Bani just like a normal couple. But I guess the preganacy will definitely break the ice between them unless Bani decides to leave, for reasons known to her and Ekta Mayii only.

Priyanka,

They seem to have shovedd the whole ONS issue under the rug. No one is talking about it, explaining, apologizing, no nothing. We seem to have shifted to a RR track with no continuity. I agree normalcy is a long road ahead and will be a great watch but it needs to start. right now it feels like wed did not even happen.

meghna

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: emma8

Couldn't agree more Meg. All said and done, the fact still remains that Pia and Bani are sisters and the disgust level of two sisters being pregnant by the same man is too high.
What I don't understand is why didn't the creatives continue with the leap. By showing, Ekta would have been able to take KS back to its' golden days. With the leap, the creatives would have been able to:
1) Re-create the love-hate relationship between Jai-Bani
2) Could have shown full redemption of JW
3) Introduce the J-B-T triangle
4) Show the split between three sisters

By looking at the current state of affairs in KS, I think Ekta has decided in showing that Pia's baby is indeed JW's .

Emma

That's my fear too Emma and I don't think I can watch another year of Pia always popping up and rubbing the ONS in JB's face curtesy of the baby. I can just imagine the epi with Pia preening that she has given JW the boy child who is the heir apparant and thus she is the power behind the throne. I will just throw up. Having to watch this day in and day out I would rather just stop watching KS now rather than putting up with more crap. I think 5 months is enough.

meghna

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Posted: 19 years ago
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"How can a man no matter what the situation not feel gross when he is
faced with the fact that he has fathered two children months apart from
sisters. How does a father look into the eyes of a child and not see it's
mother having drugged him to conceive the child? How does a sister
forget that her husband has a child with her sister who she has raised like
a mother? The whole scenario is just too gross.Meghna"

Meghna

How can the creatives proceed with a scenario like this-it is not a
controversial sceanrio-it is tabloid sensationalism scenario-similar to a
Jerry Springer show--how can they turn something that started off with
dignity and class into something utter disgusting and trashy? For what a
one evening TRP gain??? I am as fed up as u r with that thing interrupting
JB in the same frame-As soon as they show that thing's baby as JW's
-thats my last day-I'll just rewatch the earlier episodes...to that was/is/
will forever be KS...the dignity, the silence & the purity of JB.

AP
Edited by aperture - 19 years ago

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