Punar Vivah - Ek Nayi Obsession

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Caution: Friends, I am not talking me being obsessed with this show. You can say that I am opposite of "obsessed" with this show. Also, my observations are based on the written updates as I have not watched many of past episodes as they have removed one character and made another one so one-dimensional. So I may have missed many nuances here as I did not view the show.

Here I am talking about obsession of creatives to write most screwed up and obsessive lead characters that I have ever seen. That is saying a lot because every TV show has either one of screwed up characters in the beginning or they become one over time. Here everyone is screwed up from the first episode onwards. Gaurav is the exception even though they tried to do the same to him too. Now they are bringing in new characters who are even more messed up and hypocrites than remaining characters. They are Sarita's parents and Rohan and his parents. So there is only one theme of these creatives - only have messed up or selfish characters and have their Meera anthem.
So lets start with Divya, Sarita and Raj. Please note that here I am only talking about characters and not actors because I like all three actors - Rubina, Shristy and Karan. Also, this is how I have interpreted three characters based on what has been shown so far.
Divya so far has been the least screwed up and obsessive characters among three. Her sacrifice for her family and struggling to make a career in a new city with no resources makes her connected to viewers. But her character remains unexplained as to why she never contacted Raj even once in 10 years. Surely she could have done that once she became successful. But other than this, everything about her actions can be explained.
Raj is the most screwed up and messed up character until today (will come back to this point later) His drastic change in behavior 10 years ago and now after Divya came back remains unexplained. But there are several participants in this forum who actually analyzed him much better than creatives in explaining his behavior by relating it to his upbringing in an abusive (verbally, physically and emotionally) environment. He can be partially explained but needs a backstory which does not seem to be coming now.
Finally, that brings me to Sarita on whom creatives have focused the most. After reading Harianjan's update, I realized that Sarita is now officially the most screwed up character in this show (ignoring Raj's family).
So we haven't seen any backstory of Raj and Divya, but today they brought in Sarita's parents. So now it is clear that it was Sarita who insisted on marrying Raj despite her parents' reservations. The parents had no idea about her treatment because she told them lies. It seems that parents are extremely supportive and would have supported her 10 years ago by breaking up the marriage or even doing her PV in last 10 years. But she was the one who wanted to marry Raj. Why is that? She never met Raj prior to her marriage as the marriage was fixed without Raj's knowledge. First of all, what kind of rich influential parents marry their daughter to somebody without even meeting that person. Secondly, why did she fall for Raj when she only saw his photo? That is one serious obsession about somebody. If parents were willing to break up the marriage, why did she not tell them about overhearing the truth?
Before this I was giving benefit of doubt that she is conditioned to love a husband and hence tolerated all this abuse. There are numerous girls who tolerate abuse because they have no option as either parents are not supportive and/or they do not have resources/mental strength to break free. Here there is nothing of this kind. Her parents are most supportive and she feels her family is superior to Raj's family in class, culture and wealth. She stands up against her MIL and others, but tolerates everything because she wants to be near Raj. So it is not lack of support that made her stay in this marriage. It was always Raj and it is still Raj for her. Raj shows her small concern after 10 years and she is grateful that he did not treat her like a servant. What a bunch of crap. He never said a word when she was made to do all jobs meant for a servant.
Her parents wants to do her PV, but she only wants Raj to do it. Is it because she wants Raj to feel even more guilty? I could have understand her wanting Raj to do it because parents were not supportive. But here it is not the case. Who thinks more highly of a husband, who has emotionally abused her, over loving caring parents? In fact, she is willing to marry anybody to please Raj. These creatives are sending a really bad message to the society that one should tolerate all kinds of abuse (verbal, emotional etc.) if they want to win one's love. When there are so many crimes against women, this is highly irresponsible.
Finally, there are Dadi and Shiela. I did end up watching yesterday's episode on and off. Dadi was actually ecstatic that Rohan liked Shiela because to her it was a payback for Sohan lal - her son. In fact, the way she was abusing him, it seemed that she had no concern for Shiela either - the granddaughter she likes. There was no concern for Sarita who was once again rejected. With supporters like Dadi, Sarita and Shiela do not really need any additional enemies. Also why was Sohan Lal so angry? They can always say no to somebody whom they don't like for their daughter. Probably his real anger was missing the opportunity to get rid of Sarita.
Then there is Shiela - the so called supporter of her bhabhi Sarita. She has no qualms liking the guy who rejected Sarita and that too by saying all the things about not marrying somebody who has been previously married. His argument was that being a man, he could marry an unmarried person but a married person like Sarita (who on top of everything is a virgin) cannot be married even to previously married guy. And Shiela/Raj/Sarita likes this guy. Which girl would like to marry a person like this? So maybe Sarita wants Sheila to get married soon so that her irritating speeches can be over.
In the end, the only character who is now interesting me (in absence of Divya and Gaurav) is Kamla. Despite being abusive, she remains multi-layered. I felt sympathy for her yesterday when she was trying to control her tears at the end because her plans to make Sohan Lal happy with her failed once again. She abuses Sarita, but she also abuses her daughters as Sohan doesn't value females. I don't know if her value system is from her birth family, but her behavior is definitely derived from this family. She has learnt abuse from Dadi and Sohan Lal who takes pleasure in tormenting her. The way she was shown before and teh way she is shown now makes her look desperate. Please note that I am not excusing her for her behavior to either her daughters or Sarita. But there is at least a background to explain her. Also, I was feeling sorry for her the way her daughters abandon her or speak against her at the drop of a hat. She really has nobody in her corner (Raj or her daughters). No wonder she tries these shennanigans to gain some respect.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Your title is very funny. I enjoyed reading your post. Your points are right on, and I am really musing over whether the storyline has been changed again --to what, we do not know, as the original story was itself a mystery.The ambiguity in the plot is causing a lot of distress and confusion in the forum, where people are wondering once again who the lead is. The disconnect in the storyline still continues. Today all of a sudden, Sarita's parents made an appearance. Sarita declared publicly that Raj is her only source of happiness. Not only that, she also said that the reason that Raj was not able to love her was because she never made herself worthy of his love, and she is realising this now. Sarita said that trusts Raj more than Bhagavan (God) himself. She also said that Raj is the ideal husband and son in law as he did not answer the parents in law back. She made a case for Raj being very cultured and unlike his father. She said that Raj respects her. Sarita's monologue was so skewed that I started to think that she may have short term amnesia. Did she forget so quickly that when she decided to leave and told Raj of her intention, he could not have the decency to even accompany her to the busstand to see her off, choosing to instead send his assistant? And upon her return, Raj did not even ask why she came back.

That Sarita suffers from what you aptly once termed 'stockholm syndrome' in itself is not a bad thing. It is natural, considering the abuse that she has endured. She is ready to mistake scraps of attention for love and affection, and always takes the side of the perpetrator. What I find appalling is that this is not in the least problematized in the plot and therefore complex characters such as Sarita that once were very intriguing are flatlining very quickly. I think that there is so much material here --the story can focus on how living in this dysfunctional household is impacting the young girls; Raj's evolution and growth, Sarita's process, etc, rather than make the whole thing one-dimensional.

You are correct. Kamala continues to be very interesting --one minute a perpetrator, and a victim in the next, the shades are well drawn.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Angie...😆😆...Its a game of ping pong going on in the show. Dadi and the girls changed today...they were very sympathetic towards Kamu today. As for the other bits I will write after I reach home.

By the way for me the two characters that are interesting to me are Divya and Kamu darling. Now Divya has disappeared and since I have mentioned Kamu's name the cvs are now going to spoil her too.

I do accept with what you have written about Raj, Sarita, dadi and that Shiela.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Angie, i liked your write up!The title its apt for this show!
I am in the same situation, since divya dissapeared i am only reading WU...
Its true all the actors are picturing very well their characters,. but one cant forget the reason why started to whatch this show! i expected a better story yes, with all three leads eaqually sketched and explained but didnt get that...divya didnt keep in touch with her love, raj ignored there are people around him and life moves on and sarita fell in love with a chimera...
Saritas parents are here now and they seem supportive people so i dnt understand how sarita can ignore the ones who gave her life and lets a man who just started to notice her after 10 years to decide her marriage with anyone of his choice...
Also, ref to sheila, how can she like a guy just by seeing him once after refusing her dear bhabi, she could have refused atleast bcoz of loyalty as human. if not bcoz shes familly!
Raj, i tried to understand the guy, hes was emotional driven but now i dnt know...yday he almost ran to see if divya is hurt but then he was with the familly disscusing the pv of sarita, the old raj wouldnt have stopped for second thoughts..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Punar Vivah 2, an obsession to start "Badlo Zamane ke saath" ...stuck in the "old is gold Zamana"...as Rubi said, still experimenting with the story.😕
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Posted: 12 years ago
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excellent post! 👏 For me it doesn't matter what couple the CVs want to focus on, as long as it makes sense and its a well-written story. Right now, the CVs aren't giving us that.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Angie with so much ping ponging going I really do not know what to expect from this show.

Yesterday when shedadi was blasting Sohu regarding his ill treatment of Sarita, I was thinking isn't this a case of a pot calling a kettle black. I mean she has been shown to use vitriolic language on Kamu and she has also been shown to enjoy Kamu's humiliation at her son's hands, so what makes her any different from her son. I am not saying that Kamu is not wrong regarding her treatment towards her DIL and daughters...she is wrong. Kamu does it because of what she has learned from her own MIL and husband. Anyway since today they showed her showing her repulsion at her son's behaviour does that mean that the honourable cvs have realised that dadi whom they were thinking of projecting as a nice kind lady was actually appearing to be a hypocrite. If they have changed her nature so are we as viewers supposed to think all this was our hallucination and brush it under the carpet?

Shiela is another hypocrite...she has projected herself as being a well wisher of Sarita ...then why on earth does she want to marry a guy who has insulted Sarita by rejecting her hand just because she has been married before? Hasn't she seen Sarita being insulted because Raj has rejected her? Didn't she see Sohu insulted Sarita because Rohan rejected her? And after all this she still wants to marry him?

That the boy opted for Shiela instead of Sarita because Shiela is unmarried so I could not understand Sarita's grand declaration of love that the boy has for Shiela. To me it seemed that according to Sarita whenever a proposal is accepted for marriage then that means there is love. She is repeating the same mistake that she did regarding her own marriage. I started loosing interest in Sarita last week when they showed her as someone with a one track mind. Generally I find people with one track mind very irritating and boring.So today it became clear that she got married because she wanted to get married to Raj. So even when he parents didn't want her to get married she still did knowing that the guy likes someone else and does not want to get married. Again one track mind and an obsessive one...her marriage has been fixed to Raj so even when her own parents are telling her not to marry and they are telling for her own good she still goes on to get married oblivious to the fact that the person whom she is getting married to is not happy with this marriage. Then she is excusing all the ill-treatment that she got at the hands of Raj saying that she was not good enough for him. So is she trying to now become like Divya so that she becomes good enough for him but failing because her true needs are coming out and she is sending direct and indirect signals to Raj that although she is talking about sacrificing, she actually does not want to marry anyone else. Or as you have said, is she doing all this just to increase Raj's guilt that he actually does not do her remarriage. Sarita having stockholm syndrom like condition is ok for me to accept on the basis of the abuse that she underwent for 10 years...but as aimf said are the makers really going to show the ill effects of it or are they going to glorify it as something that ideal Indian wife does. So get abused by your husband either directlly or indirectly...smile and accept your abuser with open arms gushing love and we are all supposed to give a collective sigh and say...what romance and devotion (reference to the Meera anthem)!


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: misti73

Angie...😆😆...Its a game of ping pong going on in the show. Dadi and the girls changed today...they were very sympathetic towards Kamu today. As for the other bits I will write after I reach home.

By the way for me the two characters that are interesting to me are Divya and Kamu darling. Now Divya has disappeared and since I have mentioned Kamu's name the cvs are now going to spoil her too.

I do accept with what you have written about Raj, Sarita, dadi and that Shiela.


Yup, this ping ponging has made me lose interest in the show. So Dadi and girls changed maybe after reading views in the forum about them. I think they are trying to show Dadi as this nice character or as Shiela as this sweet girl. But how is a viewer supposed to think of them as nice characters when actions show otherwise.

I also am only interested in watching Divya and Kamu as I too lost interest in Sarita completely last week after they transformed her into this devotee of "God" Raj. Divya was one character I liked from the beginning. Unfortunately, she was never focused on properly (not in screen space terms but in terms of emotions). Hope she is not brought back to just destroy her character.

I too am apprehensive about creatives spoiling Kamla in order to glorify Sarita. Usually, interesteing characters are spoilt or removed from the show and irritating ones are kept in the show.

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Originally posted by: Myra.nelly

Angie, i liked your write up!The title its apt for this show!
I am in the same situation, since divya dissapeared i am only reading WU...
Its true all the actors are picturing very well their characters,. but one cant forget the reason why started to whatch this show! i expected a better story yes, with all three leads eaqually sketched and explained but didnt get that...divya didnt keep in touch with her love, raj ignored there are people around him and life moves on and sarita fell in love with a chimera...
Saritas parents are here now and they seem supportive people so i dnt understand how sarita can ignore the ones who gave her life and lets a man who just started to notice her after 10 years to decide her marriage with anyone of his choice...
Also, ref to sheila, how can she like a guy just by seeing him once after refusing her dear bhabi, she could have refused atleast bcoz of loyalty as human. if not bcoz shes familly!
Raj, i tried to understand the guy, hes was emotional driven but now i dnt know...yday he almost ran to see if divya is hurt but then he was with the familly disscusing the pv of sarita, the old raj wouldnt have stopped for second thoughts..


The story was never executed properly the way they started the show. There was a lot of impatience in the beginning the way leap was shown and these characters were shown. But many of us kept on expecting that they will eventually show a backstory where things have been kept in dark for a reason. It was such a let down when the confrontation between Raj and Divya was shown.

Divya to me was more real character than either Raj or Sarita because in real life too there are many girls who decided to choose responsibility for their family over personal happiness. What I liked about her character was that she still chose a career for which she had a passion. Too often people choose whatever they can find as the short-term goal is to take care of the family. Here she did not do so and eventually found both success in her career and could fulfill the responsibilities too.

I could not relate much to Sarita's character the way she was shown even though it was easy to feel sympathy for her. But I lost interest in her the way she was transformed. Then today was the last nail for me. Is she a masochist (taking pleasure in pain) that she would choose to marry a guy who was being forced to marry her despite support from her parents. It seems that parents are more normal who wanted to break up the engagement but Sarita was the one who persuaded them to let her marry Raj. At least Raj was emotionally manipulated by Sohu. Not that it excuses his behavior in last 10 years. But what was Sarita's reason for getting married to this person whom she hadn't even met prior to the wedding day. This falling for a photo implies to me an obsessed personality and not a devotional person. Also "devotion" or obsession for somebody who has neglected one and has been indifferent to all abuse is actually not a healthy sign. Of course creatives are showing otherwise.

Now coming to Shiela, I am just surprised that she has no problem marrying a guy who is a hypocrite. Forget loyalty. This guy is not even coming out to be a nice person. He himself had a failed marriage, yet doesn't want to marry a woman who has been married before (can't call Sarita a divorcee as there is no divorce so far). He wants to marry a much younger unmarried girl. If he was coming to see Sarita, he had to be at least her age (late 20's to early 30s). So why should he want to marry a 22 year old girl. Yet Shiela has now fallen for this guy and Sarita/Raj are so supportive about it. Give me a break. Are we supposed to like these characters just because creatives tell us that they are nice?

As far as Raj is concerned, I have stopped trying to analyze him. What is the use when his character changes or will change according to the track? He by no means is coming as falling for Sarita and neither it would be logical at this point. They could have shown from him finding her good points to accepting her (because of Divya and his own mistakes) to having a peaceful relationship (if not as passionate as with Divya) with her if they had shown logic.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: maryamavina

Punar Vivah 2, an obsession to start "Badlo Zamane ke saath" ...stuck in the "old is gold Zamana"...as Rubi said, still experimenting with the story.😕


Maryam, their obsession is with ratings. This show was started in this way because creatives thought that this would bring them quick ratings. The first week had decent ratings that instead of going up (as is usually the case with good shows) started having a free fall because of how they were executing it. Then in the panic mode, this experimentation started and now they are throwing random tracks at viewers to see if any track would stick. Then they can show that track to death until viewers get bored once again.

That's why I think creatives (channel, PH, writers/directors etc.) are obsessed creatures.

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