Originally posted by: ruchisahay
😆Great discussion everyone.
Ruchi, thanks. But really thanks to CVs for providing us such a story and characters that we have no problem filling pages after pages of any discussion thread.
Starting with hot new Jodi:
Shiela - what do I say that has not been said. Maybe Shiela is relieved that a guy liked someone as boring as her. Dadi just enjoys soap opera and here she has the front row ticket. Let her enjoy - whoever said she's supposed to be sympathetic, or nice.
😆 Ruchi, that is a good explanation for Shiela's desperation. Also maybe Raj and Sarita too want to get rid of her because of her fake sympathy and bad advices. In fact, come to think of it, Sohu should go for this proposal because not only he gets rid of Shiela, but he would save dowry money too. if you marry your educated beautiful daughter to a divorced guy (if he has taken that),
Rohan - wow the guy is really something. Double standards, look London talk Tokyo 😆 (in hindi, that's kahin pe nigahein kahin pe nishana). Wasn't he flirting with Sarita as per some comments on forum? And meanwhile he was busy pataoing his would be Sister In Law.
Ruchi, thanks for reminding me about that flirting scene. Now this guy is coming out to be a pervert in addition to being a hypocrite. And are Sarita and Raj crazy that they want such a guy for Shiela - the boring one. Maybe this is Sarita's revenge against Sohu/Kamu and Raj is also paying back Sohu for forcing him to marry Sarita.
So, they are in love. Maybe yes. Anyways, I don't understand any of the definition of love this show has showcased.
Ruchi, not only you but nobody else can understand the definition of love and devotion described by these great CVs. I think they deserve a reward for introducing such crazy characters and giving us these new definitions.
Raj's love for Divya is very superficial - he did not and still does not respect her prioritites, did not support her and then destroyed his entire life when she left holding on to the anger he felt. All of a sudden, he's rediscovering Sarita and his family. Maybe, after Divya's rant, his FIL's slap with further awaken him 😆.
Based on what they have shown, I totally agree. Have you read some of those fairy tales where people turn into stones when they look at a siren or somebody with powers? I think he was coming to the mandap on motorbike planning to reject Sarita. But he took one look at Sarita's beaming face and turned into a stone. Of course, Sarita being the obsessive one married him. Divya was the cure who touched him and he turned back into a human being. The FIL's slap is going to act as a love potion where he would now fall for Sarita. So he would be running after Sarita on the train station when she leaves him (even if it is to visit her parents for a day).
Divya's love for Raj is also very weird - though still a bit relatable. She was so much in love with a static image that she never felt the need to get in touch with the actual living person. In today's world, when 5-6 yr old kids have twitter accounts, one is able to rediscover his / her kinder-garden friends with facebook, getting out of touch is impossible if you really care. And we are repeatedly told that she does. Can she and Raj even get along now - she has moved so far ahead in life and Raj has not moved at all or rather only moved backwards? I like Divya for her tenacity and her fighting spirit, but don't understand her love for Raj. Moreover, she never expected Raj to support her. Why? She accused him for not waiting, never for not supporting.
I can understand Divya's affection for Raj based on the past and her image of him. it seemed that she is in love with somebody who really doesn't exist except in her imagination. Not getting in touch with him while expecting him to wait for her for 10 years doesn't make sense at all. In a real life, nobody would give up a flourishing career. In fact, in a real life you would go ahead and marry a person like Gaurav because you have moved on so much and the other person has remained static. You may have those wistful feelings for that person, but you would not be able to adjust with such a person.
As far as not expecting Raj to support her, it seems that everyone seems to give excuses for Raj. If they had shown that Raj did offer her support but was rejected by Divya due to her pride and also not wanting to be dependent on someone for siblings, I could have understood her guilt at abandoning Raj. Here, it has been shown that Raj did know of her reasons for leaving him. In a conversation with Gaurav, it was shown that her siblings would have come on streets if Divya hadn't taken care of them. So it seems that Raj never ever offered any support to her. So it is hard to see why she would continue to think of him so highly when there was no consideration for her pain and struggles.
Anyway, I can still understand that she feels grateful to him for mentoring her and giving her confidence that helped her reach this stage. Rest is all a mystery.
Coming to Madam Sarita, what do I say? For many weeks I really tried to understand her, to like her only because she came across as the biggest victim, one with no hope or dream left. It was difficult to understand her but easy to be moved by her fate. Today I have absolutely no sympathy - she's one who has chosen this path - out of her own free will. Good luck to her!!! She thinks it's devotion, I think it's stupidity and madness. She deserves everything she got plus more. You can sympathize with a person being beaten by goons but how to feel any sympathy for someone who's called the goons herself and just refuses to run away. Her reasons for loving Raj are equally great - that he's not done 2nd marriage, and didn't slap her father in return. Like seriously 😲. Can someone tell her absence of a vice is not virtue.
I agree. I had actually liked her in the first week after the leap the way she extended the hand to help Kamla and took it back after Kamla abused her. Or the way she would show her frustations by slamming things or not responding to Kamla. Or the way she tried to seduce Raj in desperation as probably she thought that it was the only way to attract a husband. I stopped liking her when I saw her emotionally abusing Divya. Yet still her desperate actions made sense and did invoke some sort of sympathy for her. Now I have no sympathy whatsoever. As I wrote in an earlier posts, there are genuine cases of somebody tolerating abuse because of circumstances or not having enough confidence/mental strength to break free. But here this is a totally different case.
I like your analogy of calling goons and then getting beaten deliberately. After yesterday, I can have marginally (slightly) more of sympathy for Raj because he was brought up in this crazy family and his value system is all messed up. But Sarita has been brought up by supportive parents with lot of resources. Then if you decide to jump into a well with eyes open, who is to blame for your condition?
Instead of relating Sarita's abuse to Kamla's treatment at hands of Dadi/Sohu or showing a circle of abuse, they showed us this.
Coming to the best part of the show. Of course the slap. THE SLAP. Loved it. Maybe will catch an episode just to see that. But even for that, grateful though I am to Sarita's previous father (Raj is the current one), I can't overlook such indifferent parenting. So, Sarita lied to them. Whatever!!! For 10 years, they were completely oblivious to her marital status. For 10 years, they never interacted with Raj to know he's not interested in life, wife or anything else.
I totally agree here too. What kind of parents marry a daughter to a guy without checking anything about him or despite his obvious reluctance? Then what kind of parents do not interact with their daughter to find out if everything is fine. I think parents were introduced as people were complaining about missing parents. The great creatives thought that they would show a reason for their absence in Sarita's life. But instead they managed to lose whatever sympathy was there for Sarita in audience mind. Not to mention that five new characters they introduced (Rohan, his parents, Sarita's parents) are as unlikeable as other characters of Jakotia family including Raj and Sarita.
So, what's my final take:
Couple of days back, we were sitting in a garden. My 2 year old pointed in a direction and said "Look mumma dinosaurs". He then spoke in detail about their color, count, size etc. My husband was a little worried, he asked me later "Is he creative or crazy?" Well, I am not bothered about the crazy and rich imagination of my kid 😃 but I would like to ask the same question about our CVs 😡.
Coming to your son, he actually seems very creative. My older nephew was and is very imaginative. As he is growing up, he knows many things are not real. But he still likes to imagine that things exist. He is quite artistic and makes really creative drawings. So this active imagination is actually good.
But as far as CVs are concerned, they are pretty sick if they have any imagination at all. They are showing obsession as devotion and telling viewers that an abuser can turn into a lover if one tolerates abuse enough. That if you become obsessed with somebody, marry him and stay with him taking everything and eventually this one sided love will probably turn into mutual obsessive love (if this is where they are going). Now they are showing that unmarried girls and their families should jump with glee if they get a proposal from a married guy even if he is a hypocrite. After all, the proposal came without making an effort on the behalf of the girl in question.
After all, one should get rid of their daughters as soon as possible because they are actually junk. So marry them to whomever you can find and do not even bother about them after they get married.
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