Was HEROINE really that BAD?!!! - Page 7

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Posted: 12 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: Kareenafanatic

It was Fashion revamped and modified, but it was a very poor attempt. The movie had nothing apart from Kareena's astounding performance and I'm surprised, she didn't get as many nominations because she stormed it with her performance in the movie.

Bhandarkar seems to be lost in translation lately. His type of movies are getting stale and he couldn't deliver a good movie outside of his comfort zone.


He's getting repetitive...he needs to reinvent himself. The comedy film he did with ajay Devgan and Emraan wasn't that bad. He has a potential as a director to do something different.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I thought the movie was good. I just finished watching it on NetFlix (they have amazing Bollywood movies collection whereas LoveFilm don't). And I have to say I agree and disagree with the early reviews the movie received when it was released.

The story was lacking - I get that it was about Mahi Arora but then there were some unanswered questions like what did Mahi do after leaving the film industry that made her happy and peaceful?

There were other things in the movie that made it seem like it was put together in pieces - they only word I can think of to describe the over movie is choppy.

Mahi Arora - the character - was somewhat difficult to understand (not her actions or dialogues but the character description). She is bipolar but her 'episodes' very not very convincing. It seemed like she was throwing a tantrum and not that she was either in the 'low' or 'high' state (in terms of the bipolar disorder). Kareena did try but I think it was more of the character description that was provided to her that lacked this further explanation. I watched Ek Main Aur Ek Tu and Kareena was spot-on there. The character was very well-defined so you could see that in Kareena's acting. (the age thing was a bit of an issue - they could have just said Kareena's character is 32 years old and Imran's character is 31 years old. It would have made sense. Making them in their late 20s just didn't sit well - no matter how good the make-up is, or how good the plastic surgery (including botox) is, as humans grow age is visible, the speed of reaction, the way one walks, talks etc and I am not saying Kareena or Imran or anyone did plastic surgery etc).

I got side-tracked there. Anywho, coming back to Heroine: it seemed incomplete. I haven't watched Fashion but I did watch Page 3 and it disgusted me, I couldn't watch or read anything related to Bollywood and Media for like months after I watched it but Page 3, as far as I can remember, seemed complete. Heroine, on the other hand, lacked that completeness - it was the story and at some places even the direction was very poor.

The overall movie looked like it was three different short movies put-together: the first story centering on love-hate-paranoid relationship, then another relationship started with Crickter which went into the second story which was on trying to re-invent herself by working in that small budget movie 'Taranum Jaan' and the third story on complete breakdown. So I don't think it was any actor's fault per say it was the scriptwriters, producers, director's and editors fault. It could have turned out better if they had just focused on the whole story instead of short bits of one story.

Coming to acting, my first thought on Arjun Rampal's was that his acting sucked. When he came back (in the movie) in the last part/story, he seemed to have improved.

The actor who portrayed 'Abbas' character was very bad. I have seen him in some other movies - those released in early 2000s - and he was good in those but here he was just bad.

The actor who portrayed a cricketer was very good and Kareena and him seemed to share a good on-screen chemistry (for the lack of a better word here). Even the cameo-appearance female actor in the Taranum Jaan movie was great.

Kareena - I think she tried, she really tried to play Mahi well but couldn't. But she was one of the 3 good things about the movie, the other two being that crickter actor and that cameo-appearance actor.

I didn't like that Halkat Jawani song, in fact, I skipped it but other songs played in the background were really nice. I didn't really understand why they played an Arabic song in that love-making scene between Kareena and Arjun's characters.

There were some really good points raised in the movie - how when a female actor doesn't socialise with male actors/directors/producers etc after pack-up, she loses opportunities to star in films. I really think Bollywood and all other Film Industries change their casting to audition-only. Why not? If we have to interview for any normal job then why not do the same for movies? It could somewhat cut down on 'sleeping with xyz' to get a film role. People could do the same with those responsible for auditions but it could deter people, somewhat, I hope so. And, not to mention it could become more professional.

I don't watch movies to be shocked or feel any negative emotions. I watch them for entertainment. The Hunger Games I absolutely loved even though it was on the negative side of human beings. I could have come to really like Heroine only if all the points I mentioned above would have been improved.

So, my rating for the film out of 5 stars, I'd give it 3 stars i.e. neutral - liked the movie and didn't like the movie at the same time.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Hagi10

Madhur should have gone with more powerful actress like PC.i am sure she would pull of that role even thought the script was average



I don't really think having another actor would changed the movie in any major-meaningful way. I like Priyanka, she was amazing in 7 Khoon Maaf (and I watched that movie only because of the story, PC and that Darling song).

The problem was with the script, the editing, the execution of the story. It was choppy. The character of Mahi wasn't as detailed as it should have been so even if Vidya portrayed it I doubt it would have made any real difference to the movie, overall.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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^ I liked your review of Heroine and I feel the same way about the film..I can't say I Loved the film but I can't say I hate it either.

There were def important issues facing Bollywood that was showcased in the film. One of them being the one you discussed about actresses have to be extra friendly to top actors just to get a movie with them. And the star wives issues ect.

I also agree that there was a lot of plots in one film that confuses the audience. Not one story is complete. Like I didn't understand why Mahi and Arjun's character loved each other so much. I just didn't understand their love. And I agree Arjun looked like he was sleep walking through most of the scenes but in some scenes he was really good.

I also liked the actor who played the cricketer who falls in love with Mahi. The story of why and how he falls in love with her is well directed. But I couldn't understand why Mahi broke up with him. Yes she did feel that she needed to focus on her career but when she was with Arjun why was she constantly asking him to marry her? I just couldn't connect with Mahi on that level..I couldn't understand why she loved Arjun's character so much. He didn't seem like he treated her right in the beginning of the film. The cricketer was so sweet to her and she rejects him.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Ahh, the star wives issue, I had somewhat forgotten that. You're right when you said the film had lots of sub-plots, stories and after a while it becomes harder to remember each and every point raised in the movie. They should have focused on two or three sub-plots not so many different ones and if they had only done well on those few sub-plots the film could have turned out differently.

I had the similar feeling about Mahi and Arjun's character. Why did Mahi love him? It's not like they showed the 'you can love anyone' analogy in the movie. That was not the motive so why did Mahi go back to him? Did she go back to him because she needed to 'belong' to someone (in a purely human way) or did she go back because she loved him. But then Mahi was shown to be a gutsy woman in the movie, wasn't she? She rejected that Abbas character's "wine drinking" offer and instead invited her cricketer boyfriend and Abbas's wife which cost her a lot in terms of her career.

Again, you raised a very good point about Mahi wanting to marry Arjun's character but then later when the cricketer proposes she didn't want to anymore. Bipolar people are not confused. They are bipolar. It's a form of depression. They do have similar thought process like non-bipolar people do.

I get the feeling, they were trying to show cricketers in the movie as well - when that cricketer breaks-up with his wife/girlfriend - I had this feeling the director was trying to communicate something about the cricketers' marriages/relationships with Bollywood leading ladies but it just wasn't done well.

I really want to read the director's and scriptwriter's interviews on the movie Heroine. What were they trying to do and how it became when it became.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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^ exactly it seems like Madur wasn't really clear in Mahi's characterization. Bipolar people like you said are not confused..but a lot of what Mahi does in the film leaves you confused. I couldn't connect with her because I couldn't understand her actions. I also didn't get her motive for getting back to Arjun because right after they get back together she releases their sex tape to have her film do well in the boxoffice. Yes Mahi was really motivated to be a successful actress but it doesn't make sense why she would do that to Arjun if she was in love with him? Bipolar people are aware of their hurtful actions. She knew it would hurt Arjun..so why did she do it? They got back together..that's what she wanted. But why ruin the relationship by releasing the sex tape? And than after that she quits acting? Like what in the world! 😕 I think the ending would have made sense if she reached the success she wanted but she was alone because Arjun left her.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I liked the movie a lot. I thought it was entertaining and that everyone did a great job.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: -SalShah4eva-

& i watched the movie too😆

achcha good and u didn't get scared right😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: beboholic

a lot of ppl said she was the best part while the movie sucked. Isn't this what every actress wants to hear? Isn't this what every director wants to her about a famous actor/actress? If their film/script sucked...an actor can make their film better?


an actor is not bigger than the content. if content doesn't work. no actor can do anything. i also agree that Heroine couldnt' do wonders for her. had it been an original and different film. it had made a difference, but it couldn't becoz the content has been repeated so many times.

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