Originally posted by: Malika
Hina - would u really agree that he has had his share of suffering?I doubt. See realization of mistake is easy.And so is repenting.Tomorrow someone commits a rape and then he says I am repenting my mistake and I wont repeat it in future.Does this lower his crime?
Yes in my view he got very much punishment where he is at relief even now ?His guilt is tearing him apart i see him everyday in severest pain , hating himself what can be biggest suffering than that He can never be completely happy his past will never let him , the guy has lost all confidence in him he don't even consider himself good enough he can do any good work seriously loathe himself i don't have right for anything Guilt is indeed the biggest punishment anyone can have and realizing a mistake and repenting on it is no easy work it has biggest emotional struggle one have with him which is really painful and difficult one Fighting with world is easy but fighting with your own self your own pain is most difficult one and Jagaya has no donet any rape A crime kof rape can never be corrected ever so his mistakes and a rape is not comparable and my belief is if a person realizes his mistakes and tries to rectify them in whatever way he gets even God forgives him and Jagaya is not saying he is proving himself he won't ever repeat any mistake and i don't know still why he should be eternally punished being hated forever this
Two timing your wife and then trying to break her second alliance because now she suits to your profile and need of hour...I doubt these are little crimes.When I say I wanted him to marry someone who could dislike him I say it because he actually never had a taste of the bitter medicine he made Anandi gulp forcefully and mercilessly.Even though Gauri too rebuked him at times but that always hit his male ego than his his self-respect.Gauri's insult never hit him in the heart but in the mind.While the way he treated Anandi it hit her in the soul. And there's a difference!
No i don't agree with you on Gauri's mistreatment it indeed hit him in the heart not his male ego he did remember his own treatment to Anandi and Gauri's brutal rejections when he was in between life and death she shunned him away he was badly broken. In trouble he never shunned Anandi away so this Gauri was worst here did something even he didn't do ever to someone His own trust his partner broke to this extent he is scared to make any choice for life partner on his part and the guy is completely broken now its not easy for him to move on On hearing name of marriage he breaks down , no confidence , nothing just forcing himself for everything for sake of others otherwise for his own he always say i deserve nothing Marriage and moving on is not cake walk for him even more difficult than Anandi his emotional state is more troubled than her no matter whoever loves him he doesn't consider himself worthy of any love so how anything is easy for him ?
I agree with you that every person has a right to repent and move on but this repentance is truely worthwhile only when u have a first hand experience of what you served to someone else.Because only then you truely understand that how much it hurts.
He got his punishment Everything is served to him in more bitter way and his understanding of his mistakes makes him hate himself otherwise why he will ? Why he will say i have no right for anything Punishment punishment punishment eternal punishment doesn't make anyone's redemption worth while understanding of your mistakes does and taking proper steps to correct yourself does
And IMO a character like Jagiya, who actually has committed almost all kind of bad and evil acts in the show, getting attention of so many women is something I dont support.Acc to me, it propagates the view point that majority of women are seriously blind when it comes to men.
Ganga is not blind Sanchi she don't know about his past lets see whether she will love him even after coming to know about his past and there are some women like Sanchi its not unreal but Ganga does know Jagaya's past she has accepted him as a changed person and appreciates his goodness she is not blind in anyway On the basis of past one should not be shunned away or hated forever Present matters too Agreed Jagaya did mistakes in the past Jagaya is not bad guy now and Ganga adores this good guy he is . because of his realization of his mistakes in true sense and changing himself in a better person and moreover any girl love him or hate him it won;t affect him as he himself hate himself and doesn't want anyone to love him Sanchi or Ganga expressing their love to Jagaya won't sent him into fits of pleasure like Anandi when Shiv confessed his love to her Jagaya on contrary will not be happy as he himself has declared for himself he is not worthy enough to be loved He is not asking anyone to love him neither wants . Ganga has no reason to hate him i your view of him forced to marry someone who will dislike him is not possible because
1. he doesn't want to get married reason he doesn't consider himself a worthy life partner or he can ever be He is scared because of him his relation will fail again and his partner will be hurt he has chosen loneliness for him forever he is being forced to marry by Anandi and Singhs
2. he is not a liar he tells his past to whoever girl Singhs chose for him If she will hate him because of it she will never marry him
3 Only that girl will marry him who will love him in true sense , understand him in true sense and that girl will never rebuke him, break him but she will make him believe himself he can be a good life partner
if you think every person has right to realize , repent and move on then why he doesn't ? He has realized everything in true sense so why he should be broken His damaged soul should be damaged more don't you think its unfair if any girl will hate him now he won't mind when he is asking anyone to love he never expects anyone can love him if you want anyone to break him more then what will attained from it Nothing but Jagaya being thrown at such place where he will break down so badly never to move on ever again Be destroyed forever will it be ok I don't think so neither he deserves that
How much he has been punished for his mistakes people evil in true sense who did more bad acts than anyone else have not been punished in this serial. Eternal punishment to him is injustice