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Charishma

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Posted: 12 years ago

Guys, please explain to me how an RK Madhu wedding is the end of Sulbala. I don't see how another wedding is going to stop something from developing between the two. It didn't before and it won't now. Being legally bound and having 3 extra pheras isn't going to make them any more married than they were before. Except in the eyes of the world. I think when Madhu finally wants free that will be her biggest challenge.

When this wedding track started we all knew RK and Madhu would get married. Because (1) RK wants to own her and put an end to Sulbala (or what he thinks would be the end. He doesn't realize that marriage isn't ownership), and (2) Madhu wants to marry RK at all costs. So there you have it. RK and Madhu will be married. But I don't see any relationship between them lasting. Even cv's can't make this happen. Point is her marrying RK doesn't taint her. She doesn't somehow become unworthy for Sultan. And Madhu's actions are not inconsistent with how she's been written. We just have to wait and hope. I want to slap her. But at the same time, RK is such a monster. Its like her mind has been kidnapped.

As for Padmini's silence. Is that really meant to portray her badly? I don't know. How was Radha's loudness portrayed? Just reading about that scene rubs me the wrong way.What I love about the Sulbala track is that Madhu and Sultan have resisted all attempts to define the nature of their relationship to others. It is what it is. And now Sultan is being tied into the main story in a very tangible way. He is no longer just a fly by the night saviour. Plenty of opportunity for him and Madhu to interact.

I can't see them trying to give RK and Madhu a happily ever after, or even a lasting marriage. If not because of everything that came before, then because recent events during wedding sequence. It looks like a hopeless marriage. And the biggest shocker about this wedding that seems to be based in hate is that there are no misunderstandings.

I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something. Is Madhu being shown to be correct in her actions? Or is she being portrayed a victim? Is RK being portrayed as a lover or a controlling psycho? It all depends on how cv's portray it I guess. Not on our interpretations. Any unbiased people?

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I seem to have opened a can of worms.

Just as a disclaimer: I'm not some brand ambassador for infidelity here. I view this marriage as a mockery of what marriage means. My prediction is based off of the belief that RK will further mistreat Madhu.

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Posted: 12 years ago

great post :)

I wil

I agree with you but we live in a society where married women are not allowed to.interact with others even if the relationship is abusive and that person herself is suffering in her own life.

Madhu will face this problem again cause of her own stupidity and blind trust in people who won't change.

Your stuck with him no matter what 🥱 because he is your beloved who doesn't give a crap about you -Husband.

Lol people sometime forget that there is such a thing as divorce. Madhu is 22, she can't waste her entire life in a relationship like this. I know she is stupid now , but slow ly as time passes by where no body respects her ; finally understand that she has nothin' in her life. No independence, education, career nothin'.

she lives in a fantasy world and by Monday the reality will hit her hard. its sad how in our culture people waste their lives to change someone and majority of the time it doesn't work. In our culture men are superior no matter what stupid act they do and neither his family does anything to correct their beloved soon - Just cause the man of the house!

You write beautifully

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KhatamKahani

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Posted: 12 years ago

Charishma, it's because of the rules of Hindi serialdom. Till now, RK-Madhu were never officially and properly married. Any Sultan-Madhu interaction will be labeled as "wrong." 🥱 Hell even before this, it was: she's a married woman. Madhu is not acting proper, or Sultan is eyeing a married woman. 🥱

On the show itself, see how that possessive man said in front of everyone how Madhu had deleted Sultan's contact information from her phone. No one (with the exception of Deepali, probably) even felt that was wrong amongst RK's family.

And though I haven't watched the episode yet, I read about the Radha-Padmini convo. I swear Radha has a similar sickening mentality to her son. She's the one who dared to go to Padmini and ask "could Madhu really forget her past?" Padmini at that time gave her a fitting answer. This time though, Padmini was was quiet.

If they are married, it needs to come undone very quickly. Very quickly. The space within in which this serial operates, those are the rules. There have been a handful of exceptions to this rule recently. But overall...

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Charishma

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Merry_Shwit
great post :)
I will leave a long comment later...sorry I have to cook.some dinner :(
I agree with you but we live in a society where married women are not allowed to.interact with others even if the relationship is abusive and that person herself is suffering in her own life.
Madhu will face this problem again cause of her own stupidity and blind trust in people who won't change.
Your stuck with him no matter what 🥱... Lol people forget that there is such a thing as divorce
Will write more later

You write beautifully

Thanks 😃. And you bring up very good points.

But yeah, I kind of get that. And that's why I think it will be a problem. Like it was for her mother. But if that's the harmful tradition being portrayed (and it was portrayed as harmful with Padmini and that psycho), its hardly going to be upheld in the show, right? Wouldn't a track involve overthrowing it? Idk all I see is that the marriage is probably a set up for more drama involving all three of them.

Jelousy, "extra-marital" interaction, its all going to be a part of it. I have no problems with it though. RK's an ass and I hope to god Madhu changes her mind.

This show always does the unacceptable with their excuse plot-lines. Ex's: (1) Padmini and Malik living together. But this was excused because they weren't actually involved in a relationship (even though they pretty much loved each other). (2) Madhu's excuse is already in place. The one that operates when you find Sultan in the room on her wedding day. "Oh he's not my lover. He's just a genuine friend here to save me". But her body language and Sultan's feelings point in other direction. Cv's deal with the taboo element through a technicality and make it acceptable. So I'm not worried about Madhu Sultan interactions coming across as infidelity, because they'll go out of their way to portray it differently. Even when there is an element of truth.

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Charishma

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: likarsh
Charishma, it's because of the rules of Hindi serialdom. Till now, RK-Madhu were never officially and properly married. Any Sultan-Madhu interaction will be labeled as "wrong." 🥱 Hell even before this, it was: she's a married woman. Madhu is not acting proper, or Sultan is eyeing a married woman. 🥱

On the show itself, see how that possessive man said in front of everyone how Madhu had deleted Sultan's contact information from her phone. No one (with the exception of Deepali, probably) even felt that was wrong amongst RK's family.

And though I haven't watched the episode yet, I read about the Radha-Padmini convo. I swear Radha has a similar sickening mentality to her son. She's the one who dared to go to Padmini and ask "could Madhu really forget her past?" Padmini at that time gave her a fitting answer. This time though, Padmini was was quiet.

If they are married, it needs to come undone very quickly. Very quickly. The space within in which this serial operates, those are the rules. There have been a handful of exceptions to this rule recently. But overall...

Yeah I get Hindu serialism and all. Nice phrase you've coined there ⭐️. The community is freaking unbelievable sometimes too though. I've watched alot of Madhu RK type relationships, and even some Padmini-psycho ones. But even in the most traditional families, I mean, when you watch your daughter end up in the emergency room, the unacceptable suddenly becomes acceptable. I don't think the cv's would be stupid enough to tie Madhu into an emotionally abusive relationship and give it the name of tradition. RK's controlling behaviour is getting worse and worse. I wouldn't be surprised if it became physical after marriage. I would just hate, I repeat hate to see this type of controlling behaviour to be portrayed as love.

Strangely enough I think Madhu will face opposition from Padmini if she wants divorce. That woman adhered to her crazy marriage for a long long time. So yes, I definitely see the conflict.

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Charishma

Thanks 😃. And you bring up very good points.

But yeah, I kind of get that. And that's why I think it will be a problem. Like it was for her mother. But if that's the harmful tradition being portrayed (and it was portrayed as harmful with Padmini and that psycho), its hardly going to be upheld in the show, right? Wouldn't a track involve overthrowing it? Idk all I see is that the marriage is probably a set up for more drama involving all three of them.
The marriage is definitly set up for more drama.. i feel like madhus life will be smiliar like her moms. especially in the husband department 😆 storyline.

Jelousy, "extra-marital" interaction, its all going to be a part of it. I have no problems with it though. RK's an ass and I hope to god Madhu changes her mind.

sultan was only talking and he heard all the conversation and still after knowing how much his Misses loves him, he will still let his ego play with her life. Definitely if madhu even sees aryan he will act jealous😆

This show always does the unacceptable with their excuse plot-lines. Ex's: (1) Padmini and Malik living together. But this was excused because they weren't actually involved in a relationship (even though they pretty much loved each other). (2) Madhu's excuse is already in place. The one that operates when you find Sultan in the room on her wedding day. "Oh he's not my lover. He's just a genuine friend here to save me". But her body language and Sultan's feelings point in other direction. Cv's deal with the taboo element through a technicality and make it acceptable. So I'm not worried about Madhu Sultan interactions coming across as infidelity, because they'll go out of their way to portray it differently. Even when there is an element of truth.

No cvs will not make it into infidelity ..they can make madhu stupid, cry 24/7 but not that!! DEFINITLY!!!

They are very careful with sultan.. fans can hate him and love him BUT thats the truth!!😆

He will forgive her cause onone will stand by her when she is drowning in her own stupid decisions.

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Posted: 12 years ago

Dream on! Sulbala is never going to happen. Yes, Sultan will deliberately try to create rift between the couple with his unwelcome presence. after all did he not use his own son as bait to ensnare his enemies? When Madhu comes to know of his real agenda, which looks like revenge against RK, she will stand up and fight for her husband. As to the emotionally abusive relationship you are talking about, don't you think it had changed for the better till Sultan decided to poke his long nose at the instance of a half crazed lady? Yes, RK was a monster but he is changing. Now we will see the transformation of the gold plated gangster's transformation into a monster. Of course he has his valid reasons which are far more noble than RK's king sized ego.

Isn't it strange that people here accept Pad's loudness but not Radhaji's pertinent question? When she asked her why did her daughter call a man her son detests to her bedroom when no one was around, why did Pads not clarify that Madhu did not call him but she had asked him to save Madhu? What sort of a mother remains silent when her daughter's reputation is at stake? I guess only mothers like Pads who give useless orders to even more useless gangsters to kidnap their own daughters.

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Charishma

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Opti
Dream on! Sulbala is never going to happen. Yes, Sultan will deliberately try to create rift between the couple with his unwelcome presence. after all did he not use his own son as bait to ensnare his enemies? When Madhu comes to know of his real agenda, which looks like revenge against RK, she will stand up and fight for her husband. As to the emotionally abusive relationship you are talking about, don't you think it had changed for the better till Sultan decided to poke his long nose at the instance of a half crazed lady? Yes, RK was a monster but he is changing. Now we will see the transformation of the gold plated gangster's transformation into a monster. Of course he has his valid reasons which are far more noble than RK's king sized ego.

Isn't it strange that people here accept Pad's loudness but not Radhaji's pertinent question? When she asked her why did her daughter call a man her son detests to her bedroom when no one was around, why did Pads not clarify that Madhu did not call him but she had asked him to save Madhu? What sort of a mother remains silent when her daughter's reputation is at stake? I guess only mothers like Pads who give useless orders to even more useless gangsters to kidnap their own daughters.

You're entitled to your opinion. Just two things though. (1) Radha's question is ludicrious, not because she doesn't have the right to ask, but because she's RK's mother. Maybe Padmini should've asked her about his and Deepali's unwedding antics. 😆. Like really. That question would've had more effect coming from Sikky or even Bittuji. (2) All abusive relationships change for the better until the next insignificant reason to be angry pops up. Its how it works.

Peace out ⭐️

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Originally posted by: Opti
Dream on! Sulbala is never going to happen. Yes, Sultan will deliberately try to create rift between the couple with his unwelcome presence. after all did he not use his own son as bait to ensnare his enemies? When Madhu comes to know of his real agenda, which looks like revenge against RK, she will stand up and fight for her husband. As to the emotionally abusive relationship you are talking about, don't you think it had changed for the better till Sultan decided to poke his long nose at the instance of a half crazed lady? Yes, RK was a monster but he is changing. Now we will see the transformation of the gold plated gangster's transformation into a monster. Of course he has his valid reasons which are far more noble than RK's king sized ego.

Isn't it strange that people here accept Pad's loudness but not Radhaji's pertinent question? When she asked her why did her daughter call a man her son detests to her bedroom when no one was around, why did Pads not clarify that Madhu did not call him but she had asked him to save Madhu? What sort of a mother remains silent when her daughter's reputation is at stake? I guess only mothers like Pads who give useless orders to even more useless gangsters to kidnap their own daughters.

Dream ON!! that kinda rude🤔

will if you have the right to dream so are we!! if you can defend a character like RK ; y cant we defend sultan.

dont tell us what to do or what not!!! the place belongs to everyone😳 or should we bring vijay to decide who does it belong to😆

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Opti

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Originally posted by: Charishma

You're entitled to your opinion. Just two things though. (1) Radha's question is ludicrious, not because she doesn't have the right to ask, but because she's RK's mother. Maybe Padmini should've asked her about his and Deepali's unwedding antics. 😆. Like really. That question would've had more effect coming from Sikky or even Bittuji. (2) All abusive relationships change for the better until the next insignificant reason to be angry pops up. Its how it works.

Peace out ⭐️

Why should she not ask the question because she is RK's mom? Any mom-in-law to be would want to know what was a man whom her son detests doing in his bedroom. I don't understand your logic. Do you mean to say that because RK had in the past hurt Madhu and hence being his mother she has to put up with trespassing by gangsters in her home and listen quietly to a woman who keeps shouting that her son is a rakshas (equating him with her dead husband)? Radhaji was patient enough but when Pads went over the top she had to shut her up and she sure did because Pads did not come clean with her own involvement in this. Tell me one good reason why Pads did not speak up and defend her daughter?

As to abusive relationship changing for the better to turn worse, lets see. There are heroes and heroes and then there is RK. I'm sure he will keep us on our toes.

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