Rashid vs. Asad and Ayaan

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Ava9339

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Posted: 12 years ago

Really confused...Asad and Ayaan are related through Rashid, so if these two brothers have similar qualities it would probably because of Rashid who is the connecting factor...but, Rashid as well all have seen does not seem to have much of a backbone. SO, who's backbone did they get...?dadi's perhaps?

Thoughts?

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Vishwa

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Posted: 12 years ago

Interesting question.
Yup...probably Dadi's.

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Jayne

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Posted: 12 years ago

Backbone a.k.a. boldness, guts, strength of character, etc. is not an inherited quality.

There are many kids who come from wishy-washy parents and others who are wimpy in spite of having strong parents.

It is, in part, a personality trait.
It can be honed or not, depending on the person, the circumstances, the environment, and guiding influences.

In the case of both the brothers, circumstances played a huge role in shaping this aspect of their nature.

The older brother is stronger because he was not shielded from the harsh truths of life and had to become parentified and responsible at a very young age.

The younger one is not as strong - though he is trying - because he was sheltered by his parents and by his brother through the tough times. His brother was also a guiding influence in him
He did have the personality trait to recognize good aspects in his brother instead of learning the wrong stuff from his own father.
It is only now, when the situation is again demanding hard choices that the younger brother is able to test his inner strength of character.

A person's personality is set by the age of 4.
How their character is shaped depends on all the above mentioned and other factors.

Jayne

Edited by Jayne - 12 years ago

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Posted: 12 years ago

^ Perfectly said by Jayne. Agreed.

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Ava9339

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Jayne
Backbone a.k.a. boldness, guts, strength of character, etc. is not an inherited quality.

There are many kids who come from wishy-washy parents and others who are wimpy in spite of having strong parents.

It is, in part, a personality trait.
It can be honed or not, depending on the person, the circumstances, the environment, and guiding influences.

In the case of both the brothers, circumstances played a huge role in shaping this aspect of their nature.

The older brother is stronger because he was not shielded from the harsh truths of life and had to become parentified and responsible at a very young age.

The younger one is not as strong - though he is trying - because he was sheltered by his parents and by his brother through the tough times. His brother was also a guiding influence in him
He did have the personality trait to recognize good aspects in his brother instead of learning the wrong stuff from his own father.
It is only now, when the situation is again demanding hard choices that the younger brother is able to test his inner strength of character.

A person's personality is set by the age of 4.
How their character is shaped depends on all the above mentioned and other factors.

Jayne

Ahhh...the genetic vs the environment debate. Good point but some do believe that it can in part be an inherited trait. Perhaps the wishy washy parents have the backbone but because of their environment, it did not show up but did in their children...

Anyways, this debate can go on forever...it was just a fun question...😛

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Posted: 12 years ago

Nature vs. Nurture debates are so DIFFICULT.

I agree somethings can be inherited, but I truly believe that individuals are by majority shaped through their experiences based on the environments they live in and the situations they encounter.

I think Asad and Aayan are shaped by the situations they have been facing since youth whether its personality or behavioral characteristics.

Some traits seem as if they come from Rashid and/or Badi Bee, and/or their mothers (Dilshaad/Shireen). But I think those traits are either STRONG or WEAK based on the environmental and situations the individual faces. For Asad, his harshness, rashness, impulsiveness, obsessiveness, rage, confusion, some cowardice, has been impacted and developed by the what he faced as a child.

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Ava9339

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: LoveRosh
Nature vs. Nurture debates are so DIFFICULT.

I agree somethings can be inherited, but I truly believe that individuals are by majority shaped through their experiences based on the environments they live in and the situations they encounter.

I think Asad and Aayan are shaped by the situations they have been facing since youth whether its personality or behavioral characteristics.

Some traits seem as if they come from Rashid and/or Badi Bee, and/or their mothers (Dilshaad/Shireen). But I think those traits are either STRONG or WEAK based on the environmental and situations the individual faces. For Asad, his harshness, rashness, impulsiveness, obsessiveness, rage, confusion, some cowardice, has been impacted and developed by the what he faced as a child.

Deifinitely, I do agree with what you are saying. I also have to say that things are very grey sometimes. I work as a clinical counsellor with youth with mental health and drug issues and can say that nothing is ever clear cut. 😊

Again, it was just meant to be a fun post. 😆

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Jayne

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Posted: 12 years ago

^^^^^^
I get the Nature vs. Nurture debate a lot in my work, too!

And I have found that Nature somewhat trumps Nurture.
As an example, two sons brought up by the same set of parents, in a similar parenting style, with the same set of rules, love, etc; yet their personalities (Natures) are poles apart.

One son is good, while the other is a drunk and ego-maniac with actions far contrary to the teachings of his parents.

It was also interesting to observe that while at least one parent had a fondness for alcohol strictly kept in check with allowances of a glass of wine only on holiday occasions, this tendency - inherited? - was given free rein by the son who became a drunk.

Their growing up environment was loving, yet not challenging, so the Nature of the person decided which tendencies ruled.
The one with the weaker nature allowed the vices free run, while the other controlled it.

So sure, we inherit a great many tendencies, quirks, personality traits, but nature plays an immense role with the environment helping to shape it or not.
I know of equally good and bad turnout stories of children from abusive home environments.

Ultimately, its the Nature that seems to play up, using Nurture or the environment to hone itself.

Jayne
P.S. I know you said its fun post, but its an intellectual one, so made for interesting debate!

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JeeLeZaraa

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Jayne
Backbone a.k.a. boldness, guts, strength of character, etc. is not an inherited quality.

There are many kids who come from wishy-washy parents and others who are wimpy in spite of having strong parents.

It is, in part, a personality trait.
It can be honed or not, depending on the person, the circumstances, the environment, and guiding influences.

In the case of both the brothers, circumstances played a huge role in shaping this aspect of their nature.

The older brother is stronger because he was not shielded from the harsh truths of life and had to become parentified and responsible at a very young age.

The younger one is not as strong - though he is trying - because he was sheltered by his parents and by his brother through the tough times. His brother was also a guiding influence in him
He did have the personality trait to recognize good aspects in his brother instead of learning the wrong stuff from his own father.
It is only now, when the situation is again demanding hard choices that the younger brother is able to test his inner strength of character.

A person's personality is set by the age of 4.
How their character is shaped depends on all the above mentioned and other factors.

Jayne

Very well said 👏

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