1984 Backlash...dissapointing..updated video pg 5

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enigmatic_zephy

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Posted: 12 years ago

I know this forum is about serials.. and not for political discussions..

Just didn't know where to post this..

Mods can close this topic or if possible please shift it to a more appropriate post but it would be nice to allow this discussion..

As most of you must have heard..Sajjan Kumar has been acquitted..of the charges on 1984 riot against sikhs...

My condolences are with the all the victims, with this country and each countrymen...but what good are these condolences..

This is one heinous, shameful incident in our history.. for details check out the following link

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/1984-antisikh-riots-congress-leader-sajjan-kumar-acquitted/388744-3-244.html

http://https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_anti-Sikh_riots

I have for long supported Indira Gandhi's stance on Blue Operation.. supported in the sense, I think it was an extremely tough decision to take but she did.. obviously not a decision any one would have wanted but i guess it was the best option at that time..

But what followed her death was disgusting and utterly shameful.. How sikhs were targeted as a political agenda.. my parents recount the horror.. they would pull people from running buses and burn them alive...

I am just extremely depressed...The idea of this post is..

There is a lot of young blood that visits this forum.. Just want the ones who are not aware to know about this historical happening..and an earnest request.. please be politically vigilant as you are the future and make responsible choices..

PS: If you can get your hands on Indira Gandhi's biographies, do read it.. and India after Gandhi by Ramachandra Ghua...

Please do not construe this as political vendetta or support theory.. just posting a highly disturbing event in the hope that people who do not know should know what their country has been through

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sandy290393

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Posted: 12 years ago

I'm definitely not with you when you say Indira Gandhi made the best decision at the time. Walking in to any holy place armed and with an intent to kill is never ok. I understand that there's many sides to what happened around that time but had it been them hiding in a very holy and historical mandal for example there would not have been the same action taken. The timing of the event itself was really bad timing which suggests that the decision may have been made to instigate rather than prevent.

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Vintage.Wine

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: sandy290393
I'm definitely not with you when you say Indira Gandhi made the best decision at the time. Walking in to any holy place armed and with an intent to kill is never ok. I understand that there's many sides to what happened around that time but had it been them hiding in a very holy and historical mandal for example there would not have been the same action taken. The timing of the event itself was really bad timing which suggests that the decision may have been made to instigate rather than prevent.

Hey ! ..But anyone who likes to read such history avidly might wanna raise their eyebrows over what you just said ...Was the incursion of a holy shrine by the anarchists a great move ..? ..Who moved heavy armaments to the sanctum first ? ...Who made a rapacious attempt to overturn the priest and take over the shrine ? People in power or the separatists? Wasn't a retaliatory action warranted ? ...What do you think ? ...Hm ..

Vintu ...

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huneymonsta

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Posted: 12 years ago

I have just been reading a lot of articles from both sides and my opinion is that Bhai Jarnail Singh should not have been in the Golden Temple and more so Indira Ghandi should not attacked killing innocent people.

What I find hard to digest is what happened in Delhi- the anti Sikh riots. What a shameful time for India!!! Some 28 years on and still no justice for those families that lost loved ones.

I also read about the Black Cats operation and disgusting. I feel ashamed of the Indian government.

Where is the justice?!

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Vintage.Wine

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: huneymonsta
I have just been reading a lot of articles from both sides and my opinion is that Bhai Jarnail Singh should not have been in the Golden Temple and more so Indira Ghandi should not attacked killing innocent people.

What I find hard to digest is what happened in Delhi- the anti Sikh riots. What a shameful time for India!!! 28 years on and still no justice for those families that lost loved ones.

I also read about the Black Cats operation and disgusting. I feel ashamed of the Indian government.

Where is the justice?!

Aww ..Fairy nuff !! ...Now tell me do ya commend the act of Satwant and Biyant singh ? ..Were they martyrs in your view ? ..I guess the riots do happen everywhere as a ramification of such bold actions ..Its not unique to this case ..People exhibit the rancor in a violent way ..Its the psychology of the masses ...

Also Bhindarnwale was a known extremist ...And what do ya think the people in power shoulda done ? Shuold they have allowed him to make the temple the base of his terrorist activities ? In the name of taking refuge there ? ...All clayton's reasoning ... ..

They had to total em all right there and then after the offer to surrender and evacuate the shrine was turned down ...

Vintu ...😛

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huneymonsta

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Vintage.Wine

Aww ..Fairy nuff !! ...Now tell me do ya commend the act of Satwant and Biyant singh ? ..Were they martyrs in your view ? ..I guess the riots do happen everywhere as a ramification of such bold actions ..Its not unique to this case ..People exhibit the rancor in a violent way ..Its the psychology of the masses ...

Also Bhindarnwale was a known extremist ...And what do ya think the people in power shoulda done ? Shuold they have allowed him to make the temple the base of his terrorist activities ? In the name of taking refuge there ? ...All clayton's reasoning ... ..

They had to total em all right there and then after the offer to surrender and evacuate the shrine was turned down ...

Vintu ...😛

I do not condone the killing of Indra Ghandi nor do I think Bhindrawale should have been in the temple either.

What I do think is disgraceful it what happened after wards. It was not a Hindu against Sikh (in fact most Hindu's helped the Sikh) it was the government against Sikhs.

Its appalling that justice has not been delivered. There are tons of evidence against people yet the government refuse to do anything.

Rajiv Ghandi said something along the lines of when a great tree falls the ground shakes. This is a disgusting comment to make. The Sikhs that ultimately paid the price had nothing to do with the actions of a few others.

In my view those that suffered need justice. Those that killed need to be punished. The religion they belong to shouldnt matter.

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Vintage.Wine

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: huneymonsta

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Bankim Chandra Chaterjee

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Posted: 12 years ago

the people who killed her should be given the bharat ratna.

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_Angie_

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Posted: 12 years ago

@ Vintu - That was quite a fair analysis of the events that took place and very well presented.. Sentiments usually cloud ones judgement and often lead to tragic consequences of enormous proportions, which is why we need to guard against making irresponsible statements like the one made here by this member-

Originally posted by: mr.ass
the people who killed her should be given the bharat ratna.

This one statement fully justifies the Id the member chose for himself.

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Vintage.Wine

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Originally posted by: _Angie_
@ Vintu - That was quite a fair analysis of the events that took place and very well presented.. Sentiments usually cloud ones judgement and often lead to tragic consequences of enormous proportions, which is why we need to guard against making irresponsible statements like the one made here by this member-

This one statement fully justifies the Id the member chose for himself.

Holy wine !! ...😆 ..I read that again ..and liked my own post for a change ...I can't believe I could sound so sane ...😛

@ Bold: Hm ..Right ..But does that mean people like you and I should never lead nations ? ..No hell .. ..Let's not be dithered by what (Mr.) Ass has said...I'm with you ..Go Ango ..Go ..become the next President or The PM...and change the world and the whole system..😊

Vintu...😛

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