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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: swan20

An...I should thank you for making me get out of my lethargy and thinking about your question 😆

I think it's not intentional because its not premeditated ( apart from the hand cutting part). As i said, in his so called junoon he has lost all sense of right and wrong. I guess or I hope if he really sits down and reflects on his actions he will see just how extreme his behavior is. The day he does that there'll be some hope for the character.

Even I can't take much of this. The only reason I am persisting is because of the mandali. If it gets too much I'll quit too


Mandali is one of the big reasons that I am watching this show for almost a year now. It's some kind of record 😆😆😆 seeing my record of watching and dumping shows within a week.

There is hope for a character all the time and he can go to any extreme and return too, Anuja. But, it's more about whether I would like to watch such content, nope.

Thanks to this thread, I now have a better understanding of junoon otherwise I was wondering and wondering 😆😆😆 What is Junoon?
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Posted: 12 years ago
What rk's doing I believe now has crossed the line of what we called junnon he's obsessed now with madhu,what I have figured out from the current track is that above all his junnon or obsession RK's ego has been hurt,RK's aim was to shatter madhu beyond damage but madhu like a phoenix reborn from the ashes and tried to move on and aryan and sultan unknowingly became the part of her journey and when rk saw that he got hurt that how can madhu move on so easily and is happy without him"tumhe hasanay ka rulanay ka choot pohchanay ka haq sirf mera hai"what we will make out of this???

When madhu said"pyar karnay kay liya andar kuch zinda tu hona chahiye,rk was so relieved to hear that and her tears didn't effect her for a moment or melt him and he took pride in the fact that only him alone exists in the name of love in madhu's heart but for madhu he exists only as a pain,but rk just wanted to hear its 'me and only me' so it explains he's satisfying his ego.

After watching 13th April's epi atleast its proved that RK's not blind to his feelings for madhu but he's far too egoistic to accept the fact.

Mallu
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: M.Hurr

What rk's doing I believe now has crossed the line of what we called junnon he's obsessed now with madhu,what I have figured out from the current track is that above all his junnon or obsession RK's ego has been hurt,RK's aim was to shatter madhu beyond damage but madhu like a phoenix reborn from the ashes and tried to move on and aryan and sultan unknowingly became the part of her journey and when rk saw that he got hurt that how can madhu move on so easily and is happy without him"tumhe hasanay ka rulanay ka choot pohchanay ka haq sirf mera hai"what we will make out of this???


When madhu said"pyar karnay kay liya andar kuch zinda tu hona chahiye,rk was so relieved to hear that and her tears didn't effect her for a moment or melt him and he took pride in the fact that only him alone exists in the name of love in madhu's heart but for madhu he exists only as a pain,but rk just wanted to hear its 'me and only me' so it explains he's satisfying his ego.

After watching 13th April's epi atleast its proved that RK's not blind to his feelings for madhu but he's far too egoistic to accept the fact.

Mallu


Mallu, Thank you for your reply. The narration till now has established him as egoist and arrogant so whatever he does based on that is not a surprise. Since the show keeps harping about junoon and ishq, I was wondering whether what they are showing comes under junoon or not. And, it looks like all that comes under junoon.

Red: That statement makes him more of a sadist and as someone said earlier, a control-freak. He only hears what he wants to hear.
Edited by an12345678 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Jaded

Hiya Daaku Penguin 🤗

Very Intriguing topic...I have recently discovered my fascination with this show...was very resistant to watch it for the longest time...I had always felt that Madhu cried too much...could never really connect with her character...so I never paid attention to the show...But my sister insisted that I watch and I did...and wow...I am finding a show extremely interesting after a long time...
Coming back to the topic...Finding RK's obsession is engrossing to watch.
For me Junoon has always had a negative connotation to it... Junoon is an excess of your passionate feelings...whether it be love, lust , anger, ambition etc...and an extreme of any emotion is not a good thing.
In my opinion, whatever they are showing for RK is junoon is pretty believable...his obsession is not only with Madhu, its a combination of his self-obsession, his meglomania and narcissism with his unresolved feelings for her.
To me it feels like, he cannot reconcile with the fact that he is deeply in love with her...from what I have seen of the show (mostly Madhu-RK wrestlemania and not the good romantic stuff) I feel that RK doesnt consider himself someone who is worthy of anyone's love...Admiration and adulation he has no problems with...but I feel there is a deep rooted fear or idea that he is an unlovale person/being (coz according to him he is not even human) So how can he trust or believ Madhu or even his mother, that they love him...He is constantly questioning Madhu that she loves him and only him...and it happened much after his whole attention/ obsession was passed from his mother to Madhu...After he reconciled with his mother...the deepest feelings he has ever experienced for anyone is Madhu...I feel he doesnt really know how to cherish this love...or even believe it for that matter. and Yet, despite himself he is in love with her.
To me its not the gentle, sweet, romantic true love...This is a destructive, fixated obsession wala love (or a twisted form of it) ...its creating Havoc within him...and everyday he is unable to reconcile with his own feelings his obsession with her is increasing...I completely agree he is a maniac...and emotionally abusive and manipulative...and I believe thats what happens in Junoon...There is no right or wrong...his junoon and obsession is about posessing her, completely.
It is exaggerated...but its not far off that someone who is obsessed with another person...who they have deep romantic feelings for, would manipulate, emotionally abuse or blackmail them to keep them around...For me I think he will do anything to keep her around...if he has to shed his own blood or her own it doesnt matter.
I see the hurt, guilt and realization of what he has done to her...But the meglomania, the narcissism and his continental sized ego would never let him admit it to her...in his mind RK is akin to God and God doesnt come to apologize for anything...not his many injustices or many wrong doings...God only gives you something else to distract you from your previous pain...thats what he is doing...Dragging her around...and playing god with her...keeping her till she gives in...
I hope this whole tirade made sense...but I have just discovered this show, so had a lot to say 😳


Awesome Post! Loved reading your post and kept wondering Who are You? 😆😆😆 Are you Manna? To a lot of points of yours, I nodded my head in yes.

About Red: I have come to an understanding that Junoon encompasses a lot of actions and reactions and is not just limited to positive obsession. I am now an enlightened Penguin 😆😆😆

I feel his fear and insecurities are also playing a role in what he is doing. Plus, acknowledging his wrong doings mean being an equal to Dips and he does not want to be seen in the same light as Dips. He is quite in a catch-22 situation at the moment.

Thank you a lot for posting. 😊






Edited by an12345678 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: an12345678

I have nowhere questioned his love and I am not touching that point, intentionally. Plus, let's not trivialize my friend's suffering by calling it her perception because that is her experience and an ugly one. You can very well call my opinion my perception and I am not selling it here. (But, it's my fault by bringing in a personal story here which I usually avoid and I am extremely sorry about that.)

Plus, let's not get into you people and we people here. Well, I am glad to know that it's not rocket science because I am not a rocket scientist so would not have seen that being something else.

They are two different people and that is why it's subjective. Objective often is based on hard truths and facts, while subjective is more your personal opinion and stance. So, how can emotions and reactions to that come under the umbrella of objectivity.

My original post is neither objective and neither your response to it. Thank you for your reply.


and thank you for you like 😆 therez nothing to reply but i wanted to clarify one thing that i was talking about audience's "perception" to "Madhubala" the serial and their characters😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
An... Updated my take on Page 2
Hope it makes some sense 😉

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