Vishnu Lok

There has been confusion of Vaikunth and Ksheer Sagar this forum. Both these place are Lord Vishnu.

Per Vaishnav Thelogy,

Vaikuntha is the Param Padam ('supreme abode'), or Paramapadam is the home of Supreme God Narayana or Vishnu which means Eternal Supreme Abode of infinite bliss without any anxiety and frustration of material world. It is an eternal abode of Supreme God Narayana or Vishnu or Hari, his consort Lakshmi, and Shesha, upon whom they rest.

Rig Veda (1.22.20) states, O? tad vi??o? paramam padam sada pasyanti suraya?: "All the suras (i.e., the devas) look towards the feet of Lord Vishnu as the Supreme Abode", referring to Vaikuntha, the Supreme Abode. Vaikuntha is considered by Vaishnavites to be the ultimate destination of souls who attain moksha or Liberation.

Vaikuntha is known as Paramdhama where liberated souls dwell for eternal period enjoying pure bliss and happiness in company of God Narayana or Vishnu. Vaikuntha is beyond the periphery of material universe and hence, can not be perceived or measured by material science and logics.

Ksheera Sagara or Ocean of milk is known to be the topmost realm in the material universe where Sheshashayee Lord Vishnu rests on Ananta Shesha. It is also sometimes known as local Vaikuntha of material universe which is approachable by devas or demigod in order to meet Lord Vishnu in case of any emergency or disturbance in universal balance. But, the original vaikuntha is beyond the material universe and is devoid of universal creation and annihilation which happens again & again.happens again & again.

Just wanted clarify the difference. In the show it Kheer Sagar not Vaikunth.

Not making any religious claims here just want to clarify again and try to remove any confusion.

Thanks for the information. Actually in Vaikuntha itself there are two types, and oceans are three types (the oceans of Vishnu that is).

so ultimately vishnu resides everywhere as said in geeta😳

Originally posted by: Surya_krsnbhakt

Thanks for the information. Actually in Vaikuntha itself there are two types, and oceans are three types (the oceans of Vishnu that is).

Vaikuntha:

• Paramapadam. The ultimate abode. This is the abode of the ORiginal Sriman Narayana and those who come here cannot go back to the material world.
• Karya Vaikuntham. This is like a branch of Vaikuntha present in our world. Siddhas and Rishis can come and go here. Sri Karunakarachariar has explained this as PAramapadam being the main office and and karya VAikuntham as a regional branch.

Ocean:

• Karanodaka: The Causal Ocean
• Garbhodaka: The Bottommost Ocean
• Ksheerodaka: The Milk Ocean

Karya Vaikuntham exist in the material world so its called kheer sagar.

Originally posted by: princessofkesar

so ultimately vishnu resides everywhere as said in geeta😳

i was confused , looking at discussion on jallu track i felt due to jallu he shifts from vaikunth to ksheersagar.forever

n in show they never showed vaikunth , it looks like they are already in ksheersagar.!

parampadama vaikunth means whole all universe for paramatma /mahavishnu/mahashiv /mahabrahma /maha adi shakti?

n other is kind of branch for vishnu form of paramatma?

n in wat form he resides in ksheersagar ? is he present in both vaikunth n ksheersagar at same tym in main form or there is switching during chaturmas.

i mean i felt he goes to ksheersagar only during that 4 month period where all god go to sleep.?

sorry for so many questions my religious knowledge is not gud like people in this forum!😛

another doubt about the show

they have emphasized only parvati as adishakti , but as per i know via small books n shows . aadishakti has 3 main form laxmi, sarawati n parvati as consort for all trideva.

and did dkdm showed durga? i felt they showed it b4 rakhtbeez na?

but they showed directly paravati turning into durga..!

but actually durga is combination of power from all the gods n she has weapons gifted to her from tridev , indra n kuber!

.this things were ignored!

just paravati is not aadishakti na! , she has many roops. main one being paro/lux/saras😆

aadishakti as yogmaya resides wid vishnu , who creates all this maya!

so this dkdm concept on adishakti quiet confused me!

Per Vaishnava Theology , again just to clear confusion
Vaikunth - Exist in Spiritual reality - That is were Lord Narayan, Godess Laxmi, Sheesha,
With all the avatar with all the devotees.

Local Vaikunth - In the Ksheer Sagar is where Lord Vishnu is seen sitting on Sheeha with Goddess Laxmi and Through the Navel of Lord Narayan, Humans can't goto Ksheer Sagar but
Devtas, Narad, Lord Brahma, Lord Shiva can goto both. Kheera Sagar is used for emergency like where devatas has have access in the material universe.

Lord Narayan exist in both simultaneously.

Adi - Shakti is Godess Shakti - YogaMaya, Kali

Common Team
Goddess Paravati/Sati - is Lord Shiva Destructive Engergy
Goddess Sarswati - is Lord Brahma Creative Energy
Goddess Laxmi, Radha Rani - is Lord Narayan Energy.

Depending on who you believe.
In the beginning one Supreme Being existed ( Lord Shiva or Lord Narayana you decided) = God
God was alone except his energy. Which present it self his constant consort.

I found some more info. Per Gaudiya Vaishnavism and maybe Rudra Vaishnavs

Vaikunth - In Vaikunth lok, Lord Vishnu resides in His four handed form with Goddess Laxmi. It is like a kingdom. Others living with Vishnu there serve Him and they are happy to serve Him.
There is Vaikunth in the spiritual world, which is eternal i.e. it remains even when the universe is destroyed. For the welfare of His devotees, Lord Vishnu also manifests Vaikunth lok inside the universe.

Golok - In Golok, Lord Krishn resides eternally with Radha and gopas and gopis. They are always happy, signing and dancing are are free of worries. Gopas and gopis in Golok do not treat Krishn as higher than them. They are not in awe of Krishn. They are not at all concerned that Krishn creates so many universes (which is same as saying that Vishnu creates so many universes). For them, creation of universes is of no significance. They just know that Krishn is their beloved friend and they play with Him.

Saket - Lord Ram eternally lives in Saket dham with Sita and with His devotees who served Him during His Ram incarnation on Earth. All inhabitants of Saket know that Lord Ram is supreme and they happily serve Him.

Some people call the three above combined as Vaikunth. According to this classification, Golok, Saket and Vaikunth described above are parts of Vaikunth. However, this is only the matter of definition and the meaning is the same.

Causal Ocean - This is also called as Viraj river. Maha Virat resides there. He is also known as Maha Vishnu, Karanodakshayi Vishnu, Karanavasayi Vishnu. He is all alone. Not even Laxmi and Sheshnag are there with Him. As He breathes in and out, multiple universes are created from the pores in His body. There are many universes but there is only one causal ocean and only one Maha Virat, who is the cause of multiple universes. ( Oscillating Universe Theory and Multi- universe Theory)

Garbhodak Ocean - Inside each universe, there is a garbhodak ocean. Lord Laghu Virat lives there on Sheshnag and with Laxmi. He is also known as Garbhodakshayi Vishnu. The word "laghu" means small and the word "virat" means big. He is very big in size but smaller than Lord Maha Virat. Therefore, He is called as Lord Laghu Virat. From Laghu Virat's navel, a lotus comes out. Lord Brahma comes out of this lotus.

Ksheer Sagar (ocean of milk) - Lord Kshirodakshayi Vishnu lives in the ocean of milk with Laxmi on Shesh Nag. When gods go to pray to Him, then they do so from the shore of the ocean or from an island called Shvet Dvip inside this ocean. Lord Kshirodakshayi Vishnu comes out of the ocean on hearing their prayers.

Originally posted by: princessofkesar

so ultimately vishnu resides everywhere as said in geeta😳

i was confused , looking at discussion on jallu track i felt due to jallu he shifts from vaikunth to ksheersagar.forever

n in show they never showed vaikunth , it looks like they are already in ksheersagar.!

parampadama vaikunth means whole all universe for paramatma /mahavishnu/mahashiv /mahabrahma /maha adi shakti?

n other is kind of branch for vishnu form of paramatma?

n in wat form he resides in ksheersagar ? is he present in both vaikunth n ksheersagar at same tym in main form or there is switching during chaturmas.

i mean i felt he goes to ksheersagar only during that 4 month period where all god go to sleep.?

sorry for so many questions my religious knowledge is not gud like people in this forum!😛

another doubt about the show

they have emphasized only parvati as adishakti , but as per i know via small books n shows . aadishakti has 3 main form laxmi, sarawati n parvati as consort for all trideva.

and did dkdm showed durga? i felt they showed it b4 rakhtbeez na?

but they showed directly paravati turning into durga..!

but actually durga is combination of power from all the gods n she has weapons gifted to her from tridev , indra n kuber!

.this things were ignored!

just paravati is not aadishakti na! , she has many roops. main one being paro/lux/saras😆

aadishakti as yogmaya resides wid vishnu , who creates all this maya!

so this dkdm concept on adishakti quiet confused me!

Sorry forgot to mention what the Jallu is reference MahaSagar not Ksheer Sagar.

Jalu is considered the son of the Maha Sagar (Indian Ocean and other Oceans as one body). So then his sister is Goddess Laxmi. Lord Narayan is is Jallu brother-in-Law.

Jallu had Lord Vishhu , Goddess Laxmi and Sheshnag relocated there for the following excuse wanted his sister to live with them for a while. Jallu think was that no can hurt him and no Devas dare because Lord Vishnu himself will be living the Maha Sagar as a guest.